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From: Joscha Bach
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 4:03 AM
To: Jeffrey Epstein
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I =tarted looking into it. Talk tomorrow?
On May =, 2018, at 9:55 PM, jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wrote:
now.? or read trivers on genetic conflict
On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 11:44 AM Joscha Bach = >
wrote:
There is probably an evolutionary algorithm that describes =he competition of the neural wirings during
the formation of our =rains, i.e. in the development of every individual. Not sure if there =s an equivalent of to
male/female sexual selection, and what it would =ook like!
On May 8, 2018, at 8:33 AM, =effrey E. <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
trivers genetic competion = male female genes. in the adult
On =ue, May 8, 2018 at 2:52 AM Joscha Bach wrote:
I =m still trying to understand your question.
- What do you mean by genetic conflict =n a single individual?
- What do you mean by =achine state?
Perhaps you refer to a cybernetic regulation paradigm? =alentino Braitenberg suggested
to understand Al from a regulation =erspective: feedback loops to approach a target state (homeostatic =quilibrium).
The behavior regulation can be described with payoffs =cross many sub-behaviors (which Minsky called agents and
agencies). =henever you get a situation where the local cost functions lead to a =ash equilibrium that is incompatible
with the global goals of the =rganism, you introduce a higher level regulation that imposes offsets =n the payoff matrices
of the lower level agents. This leads to the =ormation of an internal governance hierarchy.
I =hink that this was the core idea of Rodney Brooks' subsumption =rchitecture.
(Eventually, Brooks' work did not pan out, he =tarted building Roombas and lawn movers and became an Al =essimist.)
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On May 7, 2018, at 9:17 PM, jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wrote:
my question relate to =he metabphor of genetic conflict in a single indiv , is
=here an equivalent . machine internal competition
On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 8:06 PM Joscha Bach > wrote:
I =hink that the whole game is internal. All our pleasure and pain are =aused by
satisfying or frustrating our needs, which are (roughly =peaking) implemented in our reptilian brain. Our neocortex is
modeling =hese needs as purposes, so we can regulate our behavior for satisfying =ur needs.
For =xample, the physical pain, and hunger and thirst exist on the level of =eeds,
and survival is a purpose, a kind of modeling abstraction, as are =ood and drink.
Many of our purposes are outside of =he organism, such as relationship
purposes, and social purposes. Even =ur aesthetic purposes (like Jeffrey enjoying an intellectual standoff =etween
Bannon and Summers) are not really related to the =rganism.
While =he needs are somewhat hardcoded, our reaction to them is not (we can
=odulate pain and pleasure experiences, we can route our regulation =round satisfying our needs, and we can repurpose
our needs for =ompetence, dominance, affiliation, and aesthetics for almost arbitrary =oals. By changing the regulation
goals (which is always internal to our =ind) we change the payoff matrix.
On May =, 2018, at 8:43 AM, jeffrey E. [email protected]> wrote:
i posit that thre is an internal game with =ts own payoff matrix , separate from
the external = is there a machine internal state =quivalent.
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