EFTA01250160.pdf

-1 of 4 - FD•102 (Rev.5410) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date of entry 03/02/2021 date of birth was interviewed over video conference. Present for this interview was Assistant United States Attorney , Detective Special Agent and FBI Victim Specialis (present with in Colorado). After being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agents and the nature of the interview, provided the following information: New York, New York, United States (, Other (Video Mwsnownon 02/24/2021 u Conference)) pike/ SOD-NY-3027571 Dab:drafted 02/25/2021 by This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions or the FBI. It is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; 31 and its contents me not to be distributed outside your agency. 3501.492-003 Pagel of4 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00096196 EFTA01250160 11).302a (Rev. 5.8.10) SOD-NY-3027571 Continuation of FD.302 (U) Interview of .O, 02/24/2021 page 2 of 4 asked if she knew anyone or wanted to give massages. tells that she would do it. said it was really easy. It was a sales pitch that gave. He said "you go to an old man's house, give him a massage and he gives you money". This conversation happened at aunt's house ( . Present for this conversation was and two little brothers were around but not present for the actual conversation. was about 6 months older than was also older than was attending at the time of this conversation. was about 16 years old when she started high school. gave a walk through of what would happen. He told her would pick her up in a cab at her house then they would go to EPSTEIN's house together. He said would have to give an old man a massage, he would then give her money and then she would go home. They would refer to him as "Mr. Epstein" and say that he was a scientist. agreed to go. wanted out of her lifestyle. Her mindset was not where it should have been at the time. Because of this, does not believe that it was all or EPSTEIN's fault. recalled that when she went there she would wait in his kitchen. She never took a cab home; some car would drive her home. The car looked like an undercover cop car, like a Cadillac or something. remembered going across the bridge and thinking "wow". She had never been to Palm Beach and the houses were big. The first time she went to EPSTEIN's house she took a yellow cab with She recalled it was getting dark when they got there and the sky 3501.492-003 Page 2 of 4 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA 00096197 EFTA01250161 FD•302a(Rev. 3•F•I0) 50D-NY-3027571 conithmakmotED.302 or (U) Interview of .On 02/24/2021 .p., 3 of 4 was a light blue. They went into the kitchen. There were big glass doors. They were greeted by a young model who did not speak much English. She says to wait in the kitchen. She asked if she wanted anything to drink. She brings Fiji water. To this day cannot stomach drinking Fiji water. About 5-10 minutes later (GHISLAINE) MAXWELL comes downstairs and introduces herself to by her first name. cannot pronounce her first name or understand it. later learns her last name to be MAXWELL but refers to her as "The Lady". MAXWELL brought and upstairs. just followed lead as it was unknown to her what would happen. As walked up she realized she was not sure if she would be able to find her way out of there. It was weird. She walked through a bedroom and into a bathroom which was basically a massage room. MAXWELL basically said to "you know what to do". She pulled a table out of the closet which was kind of behind a door. trained grabbed the towels and the lotions/oils. watched her set everything up. The bathroom had two showers along the back wall. They were divided showers, stand up showers with glass doors. does not remember a toilet because she did not want to go there. There were two sinks and a big glass mirror. There was a closet which had the massage table inside of it and some form of seating. When EPSTEIN walked in he was wearing a white towel. He did not introduce himself. EPSTEIN was a pervert. He had a very distinct smell. They asked to leave and wait downstairs. He asked about background and about her parents and where she came from. thinks he was seeing what boundaries he could push. told him that she was poor and lived in the ghetto her whole life. She says that she is not afraid of anyone or anything. She is not afraid to talk about death. She tells him she always had it rough as a kid. tells EPSTEIN that she had 2-3 non-agreeable sexual encounters in the pas t. was honest with EPSTEIN. During the first meeting with EPSTEIN, tells him almost everything about her life. As time went on would keep EPSTEIN up to date with her life. Afterwards, EPSTEIN jumped in the shower. walked to the kitchen to meet and waited for MAXWELL to bring them their money. MAXWELL walked in with $600 ($300 each) all in $100 bills. MAXWELL said to that EPSTEIN liked her and wanted her to come back. They get a ride home in 3501.492-003 Page 3 of 4 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA 00096198 EFTA01250162 FD•302a(Rev. 3•F•I0) 50D-NY-3027571 ConlinumumarD•302o1 (U) Interview of .On 02/24/2021 .p., 4 of 4 a Cadillac by some white guy that worked for EPSTEIN. At the time neither or had driver's licenses. was not old enough to have one and she did not get one until she was 18. does not give them her phone number but received a phone call the next day. thinks gave them her number. The phone call was made to mother's house 1 Her home address was did not know who called her but it was a female who stated "Mr. Epstein wants to see you again". EPSTEIN seemed like he wanted to be a father figure. EPSTEIN made false promises. never discussed her age with EPSTEIN. She did tell him that she dropped out of high school. EPSTEIN seemed disappointed with about that. He tells her that if she goes back or gets her GED that he would help her to get into college and get her massage degree. would always meet EPSTEIN around 3:30-4 PM. She would average about 3-4 times on a good week but would at least go twice a week. She would not go more than 4 times a week. This went on for about 2 4 years. She knows it was 2 4 years About 5-6 months into going to see EPSTEIN, mother questioned her about the situation. She tells that as long as he was not touching her that it was fine but she would have to pay her mother $50 every time she went. was paid $300 every time she went. described MAXWELL as having short hair which was never blonde. She had a weird tan, it was a red complexion that looked like her skin was hot. Her face was always red and she had rosy cheeks. MAXWELL was younger at the time, maybe in her 30's. She was older than . MAXWELL was very skinny. lawyer for about the past 13 years is (Agent note: Not all subject matter was covered during the course of this interview.] 3501.492-003 Page 4 of 4 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA 00096199 EFTA01250163