Re: Update on progressives and national security in 2016 cycle

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John - I'm going to be speaking with Jake via phone tomorrow morning on the question of organized outside messaging on national security. I understand that he is interested primarily on the question of how progressives can operationalize the push back against the GOP candidates. That is basically what I have been talking about doing, so think I'm well-placed for that conversation. Welcome any thoughts that you may have. And of course, thank you for your help on this. My best, Ken On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Ken Gude <[email protected]> wrote: > John - > > Wanted to update you on my thoughts on the various strands of the > progressive community organizing to engage on national security issues > during the 2016 cycle. > > Following your recommendation, I connected with Derek Chollet. He > indicated that Sandy had been working with Brian, as you make know, to use > the National Security Network (NSN) as a convening group to bring together > senior former officials and others into several working groups designed to > develop progressive positions and talking points on key issues. I have > subsequently spoken to Brian many times and engaged with that effort on a > couple of the issue areas and I am happy to continue being helpful to this > when I can. > > My view on this is that it is a fine effort and good to get some senior > folks thinking about this and organized in some way, but that is only a > small part of what is necessary - which is much more about a robust rapid > response capability to promote progressive positions, critique > conservatives policies, and defend against GOP attacks. As an example of > this gap, progressive voices were almost entirely absent form any of the > reporting on Jeb Bush's European trip - in the press, on blogs (NSN didn't > mention at all), or in other media. > > It seems from the conversations that I have had, that Jake is at least > aware and given the green light to Sandy and Brian's efforts with NSN (I > have not talked to Jake personally). I can understand why Brian is pushing > in this direction as he is the chair of NSN's board. I remain skeptical > about NSN's capacity to perform the kind of role that is needed in this > cycle because of its current funding commitments (mostly c3) and staff > composition set up to deliver on those grants. But given that this effort > is ongoing and in its relatively early stage, it may be difficult to swim > entirely against the stream on this now. > > I do think it will become more evident as the campaign picks up with the > GOP debates beginning in August that a rapid response capability is what is > necessary. Perhaps NSN can shift to perform this role, or perhaps CAPAF or > someplace like Truman could take it on. Alternatively, a new, small > organization could be established to perform this function during the 2016 > cycle. If funding exists - the eternal question - whatever the form, the > capability could be set up relatively quickly. > > Welcome your thoughts should you have any additional views at this > juncture. I will remain engaged keep you apprised of what I learn. > > Ken > > Delivered-To: [email protected] Received: by 10.25.43.10 with SMTP id r10csp1438124lfr; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 08:26:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.182.230.70 with SMTP id sw6mr31004659obc.48.1436801168054; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 08:26:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from mail-ob0-x22f.google.com (mail-ob0-x22f.google.com. [2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22f]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id os9si13502569oeb.57.2015.07.13.08.26.07 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 13 Jul 2015 08:26:08 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of [email protected] designates 2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22f as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22f; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of [email protected] designates 2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22f as permitted sender) [email protected]; dkim=pass [email protected]; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Received: by mail-ob0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id op1so231030267obb.2; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 08:26:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=U8Y5Lg1g4Fq/NlL7QNO7Ny6w/4U4UYVB1lIM4J6DNtQ=; b=qmoP1DXWp0HE5fUkiq/hRkRyuV3N1Oip4t/VxIJKJRR4yBTZLiB5fJ7A2zySZZ9aRa cKxgREdeUExl1sXa4931a8dH0ozREf3kgo0HND//+yAUz1OQS0PmDo08RtD3cGSAwuWr SLDxNjZT+DlkMT0p9MZaTdlfmLT754VHUAwhN+msRv7WteetAOMCw0j98auf7paSBgQd 89HFmpuY+7fGCxz5EdQB8RrzX/wkQYjRAi779yCRipP80RhZpYUUUvmhaVVx190k765T Ed/dwpviu8NbIaQh5NyZjJ1FQcuJCrlo6nd9shKcolunxghTwEBP4HmLUUn0C2QUOioA MaSQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.202.175.82 with SMTP id y79mr30103149oie.22.1436801167370; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 08:26:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.97.193 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 08:26:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <CAPTXH2f_XKmOPgBoKUjjP+-7=hxdTENtDZfYvEHRCDGg2E8UBg@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAPTXH2f_XKmOPgBoKUjjP+-7=hxdTENtDZfYvEHRCDGg2E8UBg@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 11:26:07 -0400 Message-ID: <CAPTXH2ckijROp-vLfvDPYSUurP+9SO_F1EiT-wPaU5JXJr2qUQ@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Update on progressives and national security in 2016 cycle From: Ken Gude <[email protected]> To: John Podesta <[email protected]> CC: Eryn Sepp <[email protected]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113ce92431d0b0051ac35750 --001a113ce92431d0b0051ac35750 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi John - I'm going to be speaking with Jake via phone tomorrow morning on the question of organized outside messaging on national security. I understand that he is interested primarily on the question of how progressives can operationalize the push back against the GOP candidates. That is basically what I have been talking about doing, so think I'm well-placed for that conversation. Welcome any thoughts that you may have. And of course, thank you for your help on this. My best, Ken On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Ken Gude <[email protected]> wrote: > John - > > Wanted to update you on my thoughts on the various strands of the > progressive community organizing to engage on national security issues > during the 2016 cycle. > > Following your recommendation, I connected with Derek Chollet. He > indicated that Sandy had been working with Brian, as you make know, to use > the National Security Network (NSN) as a convening group to bring together > senior former officials and others into several working groups designed to > develop progressive positions and talking points on key issues. I have > subsequently spoken to Brian many times and engaged with that effort on a > couple of the issue areas and I am happy to continue being helpful to this > when I can. > > My view on this is that it is a fine effort and good to get some senior > folks thinking about this and organized in some way, but that is only a > small part of what is necessary - which is much more about a robust rapid > response capability to promote progressive positions, critique > conservatives policies, and defend against GOP attacks. As an example of > this gap, progressive voices were almost entirely absent form any of the > reporting on Jeb Bush's European trip - in the press, on blogs (NSN didn't > mention at all), or in other media. > > It seems from the conversations that I have had, that Jake is at least > aware and given the green light to Sandy and Brian's efforts with NSN (I > have not talked to Jake personally). I can understand why Brian is pushing > in this direction as he is the chair of NSN's board. I remain skeptical > about NSN's capacity to perform the kind of role that is needed in this > cycle because of its current funding commitments (mostly c3) and staff > composition set up to deliver on those grants. But given that this effort > is ongoing and in its relatively early stage, it may be difficult to swim > entirely against the stream on this now. > > I do think it will become more evident as the campaign picks up with the > GOP debates beginning in August that a rapid response capability is what is > necessary. Perhaps NSN can shift to perform this role, or perhaps CAPAF or > someplace like Truman could take it on. Alternatively, a new, small > organization could be established to perform this function during the 2016 > cycle. If funding exists - the eternal question - whatever the form, the > capability could be set up relatively quickly. > > Welcome your thoughts should you have any additional views at this > juncture. I will remain engaged keep you apprised of what I learn. > > Ken > > --001a113ce92431d0b0051ac35750 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">Hi John -=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>I'm going to be spe= aking with Jake via phone tomorrow morning on the question of organized out= side messaging on national security. I understand that he is interested pri= marily on the question of how progressives can operationalize the push back= against the GOP candidates. That is basically what I have been talking abo= ut doing, so think I'm well-placed for that conversation. Welcome any t= houghts that you may have. And of course, thank you for your help on this.<= br></div><div><br></div><div>My best,</div><div>Ken</div></div><div class= =3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 1:1= 2 PM, Ken Gude <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" t= arget=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote cla= ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pa= dding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">John -=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>Wanted to = update you on my thoughts on the various strands of the progressive communi= ty organizing to engage on national security issues during the 2016 cycle.<= /div><div><br></div><div>Following your recommendation, I connected with De= rek Chollet. He indicated that Sandy had been working with Brian, as you ma= ke know, to use the National Security Network (NSN) as a convening group to= bring together senior former officials and others into several working gro= ups designed to develop progressive positions and talking points on key iss= ues. I have subsequently spoken to Brian many times and engaged with that e= ffort on a couple of the issue areas and I am happy to continue being helpf= ul to this when I can.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>My view on this is th= at it is a fine effort and good to get some senior folks thinking about thi= s and organized in some way, but that is only a small part of what is neces= sary - which =C2=A0is much more about a robust rapid response capability to= promote progressive positions, critique conservatives policies, and defend= against GOP attacks. As an example of this gap, progressive voices were al= most entirely absent form any of the reporting on Jeb Bush's European t= rip - in the press, on blogs (NSN didn't mention at all), or in other m= edia.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>It seems from the conversations that I= have had, that Jake is at least aware and given the green light to Sandy a= nd Brian's efforts with NSN (I have not talked to Jake personally). I c= an understand why Brian is pushing in this direction as he is the chair of = NSN's board. I remain skeptical about NSN's capacity to perform the= kind of role that is needed in this cycle because of its current funding c= ommitments (mostly c3) and staff composition set up to deliver on those gra= nts. But given that this effort is ongoing and in its relatively early stag= e, it may be difficult to swim entirely against the stream on this now.=C2= =A0</div><div><br></div><div>I do think it will become more evident as the = campaign picks up with the GOP debates beginning in August that a rapid res= ponse capability is what is necessary. Perhaps NSN can shift to perform thi= s role, or perhaps CAPAF or someplace like Truman could take it on. Alterna= tively, a new, small organization could be established to perform this func= tion during the 2016 cycle. If funding exists - the eternal question - what= ever the form, the capability could be set up relatively quickly.</div><div= ><br></div><div>Welcome your thoughts should you have any additional views = at this juncture. I will remain engaged keep you apprised of what I learn.<= /div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><div><br></div><div>Ken= </div><div><br></div></font></span></div> </blockquote></div><br></div> --001a113ce92431d0b0051ac35750--