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From: J <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: Neil and other things
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2018 11:37:38 +0000
i think you might define what is culture. it may be the fractal of consiocusness. . rules , operating. it
doesn't exist in one place. . silly questions like is there culture if everyone is sleeping. ? the perception or
mispercepetion of self - simply may be an evolutionary benefit . one more artificial human construct. . like the
weather. . silly anthropomorphism's." it decided to rain. ." I think looking into reductionism is difficult i
would as usual go the other way. . crowd behavior. as emotion.. culture as consiousness. think of crowd
behavior. - looking at each indiv not useful. not sure it is computable. views? for your child s medical
cost . are you covered. ?
On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 2:48 AM Bach, Joscha wrote:
Dear Jeffrey,
I think you are right: Neil and me share a lot of interests. I am curious where that leads, and expect that we will talk
again, especially about digital psychology.
The meeting with Elizabeth Koch and her crowd was quite fascinating. Her taste in funding scientists is a bit less
discerning than yours, but I enjoyed Anil Seth and Guilio Tononi. Tononi is an autonomous intellect masquerading as a
decently successful neuroscientist. The core ideas of his Integrated Information Theory of consciousness have never
actually been published, which means that his followers (including Christof Koch and Max Tegmark) don't follow a
complete theory but his personality. Before I met him, I did not understand why IIT is a bit of a cult. He is sharp, with
the demeanor of an austere Catholic priest, and has come up with a perspective on consciousness that is actually new and
original, which means that it is almost certainly wrong, but I think that unlike the pleasant Stu Hameroff he really cares
about getting things right. (In case you are interested in the topic, I include a paper that got accepted for the AAAI spring
symposium on machine consciousness.)
Elizabeth Koch seems to struggle with the horrible plight of being born into royalty, and tries to escape the moral guilt of
undeserved riches by diligently seeking approval from others. She played the role of spiritual life coach at her event,
supported by an impressive African ex child soldier, and Joan Borysenko's superstitious promises of salvation through
epigenetics and microbiome. I have great sympathy for Elizabeth, but she seems to be confused. I wish she could accept
what she's born into and actually do something with it (like creating the life or world she wants for herself); she seems to
be a responsible person and might be a force for good.
It was good to meet Bamaby there, too.
These days Mira and me are worried about Taiyo; his doctors suspect Coats disease, Coats plus or something similar.
We'll get results from full genetic testing soon, and have scheduled an eye surgery for him in early January. We will try to
get as much done as we can before we move to SF, because Boston Children's seems to be one of the best places in the
US to get treatment.
As always, thank you so much for all your support.
Sincerely yours,
Joscha
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Joscha Bach, PhD
Harvard University: Program for Evolutionary Dynamics
One Braille Square, Cambridge 02138
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