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2017/01/18
Lawrence Krauss
I really do love you deeply as a friend Jeffrey. I don't think I know anyone else who so
honestly cares about me, and I don't think I can ever truly express how wonderful that
feels.. Thank you. The cruise was a great reset, and I plan to be gone a lot over the
next month or two, and if things don't improve, to extend that.. But we
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revisited our relationship in many ways on the cruise (star trek cruise) in the caribbean,
and also the happy pills she is taking are having an effect. I am going to try to be
scientific about this, and not religious.. Thanks for this, and everything else. I frankly
don't know what I have would have done numerous times without you as a friend. I
only hope what I give you in return is some small recompense.
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p.s. I just had a tequila and a scotch here in Phoenix before preparing class, and am
sleep deprived, so if my note seems maudlin, there is a reason. :)
04:37:43 am
2017/01/27
jeevacation
want sure if it was the nuclear clock or your marriage
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wasn't
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;;0
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;;;0)
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U ok
08:46:31 pm
2017/01/28
Lawrence Krauss
ha ha.. the clock on my marriage keeps ticking.. that is the difference... been thinking
• about you.. maybe we can talk later today.
08:09:59 pm
jeevacation
Yes
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krauss, I checked and your emotional „ and non rational attack on the immigration
order was 100 percent WRONG. he banned countries not religions. so putting up
false arguments re illegality is tantamount to bad science .
11:40:06 pm
Lawrence Krauss
It was on countries, and it provided preferential immigration for christians over
muslims.. check again.. Thanks for looking into this.. and by the way, banning
countries isn't allowed either.. So, do you want to waste $15l< helping my boys film
me and Richard in London and Amsterdam and maybe me in NYC in case we want to
do another film. I have $15K already, and can get another $10K, and total would be
$40l< according to the film boys... IT is just to put film in the can.. for some kind of
Unbelievers2.. involving science and public policy as well.. from your point of view a
complete waste of money.
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The order also gave the Department of Homeland Security leeway to prioritize refugee
claims made by people "on the basis of religious based persecution" as long as the
person applying for refugee status is "a minority religion in the individual's country of
nationality."
This would make it easier for Christians and other religious minorities in majority
• Muslim countries from entering the United States than it would for Muslims in general.
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jeevacation
<a href="http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/28/politics/text-of-trump-executive-ord er-
nation-ban-refugees/ind ex.html">http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/28/politics/text-of-
trump-executive-ord er-nation-ba n-refugees/ind ex.html</a>
11:49:04 pin
Lawrence Krauss
• it is the same site I am quoting from above
11:49:36 pm
jeevacation
where did you see it was illegal. ? you normally are very careful with
pronouncements.
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To resolve this case, Congress amended the law in 1996 to state that "procedures" and
"locations" for processing immigration applications cannot count as discrimination.
While there is plenty of room for executive mischief there, the amendment made clear
that Congress still wanted the discrimination ban to hold some force. A blanket
immigration prohibition on a nationality by the president would still be illegal.
Even if courts do find wiggle room here, discretion can be taken too far. If Mr. Trump
can legally ban an entire region of the world, he would render Congress's vision of
unbiased legal immigration a dead letter. An appeals court stopped President Barack
Obama's executive actions to spare millions of undocumented immigrants from
deportations for the similar reason that he was circumventing Congress. Some
discretion? Sure. Discretion to rewrite the law? Not in America's constitutional system.
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Lawrence Krauss
• exactly.. I will find you the 1965 legislation.
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jeevacation
I've spoken to ash, it is a temp ban not covered.
11:54:06 pm
Lawrence Krauss
That will be for the courts to decide I think.. unless he can demonstrate a national
• emergency.
11:56:31 pm
jeevacation
never reach the court before the ban expires.
11:56:51 pm
Lawrence Krauss
judges can provide injunctions until it does.
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• happens all the time.
11:57:13 pm
jeevacation
if he refuses to do anything about climate change. what is the worst that happens in
the next four or 8 years. worst case
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Lawrence Krauss
first
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The Hart-Celler Act of 1965 marked a radical break from the immigration policies of
the past. Previous laws restricted immigration from Asia and Africa, and gave
preference to northern and western Europeans over southern and eastern Europeans.
[2] In the 1960s, the United States faced both foreign and domestic pressures to
change its nation-based formula, which was regarded as a system that discriminated
based on an individual's place of birth. Abroad, former military allies and new
independent nations aimed to delegitimize discriminatory immigration, naturalization
and regulations through international organizations like the United Nations.[3] In the
United States, the national-based formula had been under scrutiny for a number of
years. In 1952, President Truman had directed the Commission on Immigration and
Naturalization to conduct an investigation and produce a report on the current
immigration regulations. The report, Whom We Shall Welcome, served as the blueprint
for the Hart-Celler Act.[4] At the height of the Civil Rights Movement of the 1960s, the
restrictive immigration laws were seen as an embarrassment by, among others,
President John F. Kennedy, who called the then-quota-system "nearly intolerable".[5]
After Kennedy's assassination, President Lyndon Johnson signed the bill at the foot of
the Statue of Liberty.
11:58:02 pm
2017/01/29
Lawrence Krauss
Because we are emitting approx 30 Gigatons (use about 6 gigaton) of CO2 annually,
and that remains in the atmosphere for approx 600 years, every year we add this
amount makes it exponentially harder to cut back in future years before we get far in
excess of 2 degrees celsius of heating.. that is why acting in 8 years will require 20%
more cutbacks than if we act now.
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I accept that... re dawkins.. perfectly understandable.. I support you on that one.
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Hey.. I am glad you didn't take my bet.. I would have felt a little awkward taking a
million dollars from you... that way. :)
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and good news.. Noam is in arizona.
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Nancy and I had a kind of breakthrough last night, and tonight when she came home I
• completely blew it.. lost my temper... sigh..
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jeevacation
maybe you need meds
09:55:51 am
again, you obfuscate , the judes order was only in regard to people already here. not
relevant as most were let in
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Im very sorry to hear about nancy and your stress. . she is what she is. it will not
change. hoping to put humpty dumpty back together does not make i possible. I m
really truly sorry. I know how much you have emotionally invested. idealized -
probably to root issue. . mathematics is the only ideal. everything else sucks
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for you and I . accepting less than a elegant formula is vexing. we know there are too
many terms in the equation and it can be simplified. we can't rest until we find the
shortest description. . with women . it is dynamic hormone driven mess with
divisions by zero. transcendental numbers and np hard. however you and i don't
exist in polynomaial time. at least i don't
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Lawrence Krauss
The judges made it clear you can't stop green card holders, and most importantly you
can't send them back...and that is just the beginning.. wait.. as for meds, it was just
silly reaction by me..., which I am known to do. In the meantime I am thinking of
creating the following.. Wanna support it? It is just what you might hate.: Center for
Science and Evidence (CSE)
The purpose of the center will be to cover political statements and decisions and
analyze these and confront them with science and evidence. To call out lies, to erase
misconceptions, to give the background issues substance, to describe science and
policy issues in a way that properly represents science. It will not be abstract, it will
respond to government policy and statements. It will exist as a voice for reality, not
alternative reality.
I envisage hiring a small staff initially, and also using knowledge of a panel of experts.
We will also get advertising to support, as well as outside support.
I would be president of it. We will need a operations manager, web developer, social
media developer, chief of research.
We will have a board of trustees. Potential candidates:
Chomsky, Wilczek, Rush Holt (president of AAAS), Tyson, Greene, Harold Varmus, David
Baltimore (nobelists in medicine, Steven Weinberg Michael Crow?
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ahh. just saw rest of your message from 5 min ago.. It is messy.. but life is messy..
maybe not for you, but for the rest of us mortals.. I have managed to survive the
• messes, and sometimes even thrive through them. You help, of course.
11:02:31 pm
2017/01/30
jeevacation
green cards specifically say , on their face does not give you a right to enter. . only
citizens have that right. green cared holders are residents . no more than that. .
the center sounds like good idea that some left wing person interested in climate
change might fund. :)
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2017/02/01
Lawrence Krauss
• ha.. ok.. anyway.. more soon.
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jeevacation
The constitution only applies to citizens .
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2017/02/07
jeevacation
<a href="http://www.nationaIreview.com/article/444668/whistle-blower-scientist-
exposes-shoddy-climate-science-
noaa">http://www.nationalreview.com/a rticle/444668/whistle- b lower-scientist-
exposes-shoddy-climate-science-noaa</a>
07:04:30 pm
2017/02/11
Lawrence Krauss
thanks.. will look at this.
09:01:25 am
I am dubious about this allegation.. I have heard it before.. and science magazine is
quite rigorous about its decisions and if there was any doubt about the data they
would now be the first to say they are withdrawing the article. Given its source,
particularly Lamar Smith, who is a well known climate denier, and science denier in
• general, I remain skeptical.. let's see what happens.
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