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TRANSCRIPT OF TELEPHONE CONVE
BETWEEN ALAN M. DERSHOWITZ A
TAPE A
ALAN M. DERSHOWITZ: Now turning on a tape recorder and I'm recording with uh your
permission. So please repeat what you told me previously.
Okay, um tha never wanted to go after you urn but she felt pressure urn
by her lawyers to and that she had never ... I've never heard her mention you as when we were
kids or you know until very recently after everything has happened in the media but I've never
heard her mention you before.
ALAN M. DERSHOWITZ: Okay thank you and I'm now turning off the tape recorder. Thank
you so much.
TAPE B
ALAN M. DERSHOWITZ: [inaudible] record and where you repeat what you basically have
said to me before about the uh man in Columbus and urn and what he urn and how they intended
to get the amount of money they intended to get from them. That's crucial. So can you give me
that for just like just 30 seconds?
: Okay, I mean she never told me his name. I know it from you saying it.
ALAN M. DERSHOWITZ: We know his name of course.
: Okay ...
ALAN M. DERSHOWITZ: Tell me how she described him to you.
: She just said that he owned Victoria Secret and Limited Too, and that he had lots
and lots of money. You know, was a billionaire.
ALAN M. DERSHOWITZ: Great. And what did they want to do?
They wanted to sue him and for at least half his money and use it for the charities
that they're trying to start.
ALAN M. DERSHOWITZ: And what would the lawsuit be based on?
Oh I guess the ... she didn't say exactly, just being affiliated with Epstein the
alleged you know and partaking you know in the girls that he would provide them or provide
him.
ALAN M. DERSHOWITZ: Yeah. And did they think they would have to bring the lawsuit or
would they just be able to threaten the lawsuit and he would pay the money?
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She made it sound like to me that they were already talking to him and they were,
they had already you know in the process of suing him.
ALAN M. DERSHOWITZ: Aha. And was he going to then you think settle it or was he
actually going to litigate it ... what did it sound like?
She didn't really say but she made it sound like she was pretty positive about it and
then I didn't hear about it for like months and then you know the last time she talked about the
charity, it wasn't about him anymore, it was about just you know raising money going to like
you know celebrity charity events to get money or I remember her you know showing she was
going to do a bunch of television interviews um to raise the ... and use that money that they were
paying her for the interviews to help get it started.
ALAN M. DERSHOWITZ: Right but that would be ...
And then the lawyers contributed their own money into it probably like, I don't
know, like $80,000 or something like that.
ALAN M. DERSHOWITZ: They lawyers contributed $80,000 to what, to the fund?
The charity yeah, to get it started for her.
ALAN M. DERSHOWITZ: And were the lawyers charging her or how did that work ... do you
know?
Nope, I mean uh, she, to her, I think the result of her, or what do you call it, pro
bono, they weren't charging anything for their, ya know.
ALAN M. DERSHOWITZ: But did they expect to get something out of it if they sued this rich
guy in Columbus from Victoria Secret.
Really, it's, she didn't say it exactly but that's just kind of like, you know, looking
at it in retrospect, that's how it seemed, you know, it just seemed like it was, they saw an
opportunity to make a lot of money.
ALAN M. DERSHOWITZ: And did she mention, she didn't mention who the lawyers are or
where they were from did she?
No. I just have that paperwork that was sent to me by ... from them.
ALAN M. DERSHOWITZ: Right. Sure. But do you know who sent it to you?
: Um, she sent, I mean, no, I don't know exactly, she sent it to me ... it was
forwarded from her email to my email.
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ALAN M. DERSHOWITZ: Right. And my understanding is that she was going to try to get
the uh ABC to uh give her some credibility so that that would increase the leverage on being able
to get a settlement or a lawsuit?
Yeah, I mean....
ALAN M. DERSHOWITZ: Yeah, alright, well I appreciate that and again just repeat you gave
me permission to record this and urn would you just say yes so?
Okay, yes.
ALAN M. DERSHOWITZ: I appreciate that. Thank you. If you can think of anything else,
just please, please let me know because um this is very, very important.
TAPE C:
ALAN M. DERSHOWITZ: I'm recording now with your permission so just tell me the story
as as simply as you can.
Okay about the interaction that I had with her where she told me about what was
going to happen when it came to starting this charity?
ALAN M. DERSHOWITZ: Right.
... is that what you're asking?
ALAN M. DERSHOWITZ: Yeah, yeah.
Okay. Um you want me to talk now?
ALAN M. DERSHOWITZ: Yeah, sure.
: Ok alright, earlier we were together on Clematis we had dinner at Dempsey's and
she just kind of told me about how she was going to sue the man who owned Limited Too and
Victoria Secret for lots of money and they were going to be able to take that money and start this
charity to help you know women that had been trafficked and that you know there were other big
names that she was going to be able to um also um refer to what happened or what she said had
happened when she was younger. Uh I don't know exactly what else. She didn't really mention
names just one, just the one that I don't remember his, the guy who owns, you know, Victoria
Secret and all that and uh she also said to me that she that when it came to Alan Dershowitz that
she did feel pressure to go after you, after him ...um her, you know to, she felt pressure to do it,
she didn't want to go after you specifically, that she felt pressured by her lawyers to do that.
ALAN M. DERSHOWITZ: Alright, well thank you very much I really appreciate it. You
know, we were recording this with your permission. I'm going to turn off the recording now.
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