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-1 of 4 - FD-302 (Rev 5-8-10) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Doe of oily 03/08/2021 date of birth , was interviewed over video conference by AUSA AUSA AUSA Detective and Special Agent After being advised of the identity of the above listed individuals and the nature of the interview, provided the following information: grew up in The highest level of education completed was and he is currently He is currently knows from growing up as they went to neighboring high schools. She went and went to, He first met her in April of at the junior year prom. They met at the after party and became friends. In the around September they started dating. They dated all though senior year from . They would then date on and off through= They but remained friends through college. They then dated again after college from After that they continued to remain close friends and would talk on average once a month. The first time that talked with about JEFFREY EPSTEIN was around the late fall/ winter of . and had started to become physically intimate when ad some hesitation and began to cry. thinks this may have been the first time she mentioned it to him. She talked about the time in New Mexico. She did not go into great depth the first time they talked about it but she would talk about it more over time. was her confidant at the time. During their first detailed conversation, they discussed her trip to New Mexico including the arrangements at the house and the sequence of events New York, New York, United States Other (Video Inveitiphoeice 01/29/2021 at conference)) Mks SOD-NY-3027571 Ditedmhed 03/03/2021 by Thu document contains igen reeommendatiora nor magi= of the FBI Bu the property oft& FBI sod is loam.] to your agency: it as its comes are not to be dimMuted ouNde ',out agency 3521-001 Pagelof4 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00008453 EFTA00159147 ED.302a (Rev 54.10) 50D—NY-3027571 Coin:nuance of ED-302 of (U) Interview of .O, 01/29/2021 . pas, 2 of 4 while there. This was the first time that mentioned EPSTEIN and GHISLAINE MAXWELL to She gave some background on EPSTEIN. She told about EPSTEIN's and that's how met him. She told about EPSTEIN's interest in EPSTEIN would learn through EPSTEIN told he may be able to help get into college and help pay for it. EPSTEIN helped with a trip to He offered to make the trip happen for her. believed EPSTEIN was a wealthy benefactor that helped The-trip was in the summer, just after met at prom. At the time he did not know anyone was helping with the trip, he just knew was going. They both traveled over that summer. They would keep in touch during that summer by writing letters to each other, like pen pals. recalls MAXWELL over the description of events from New Mexico. recalls asking what the purpose of the trip was. knew was going to the ranch. thought she was going for an enrichment program. thought EPSTEIN was a "do gooder"; he thought that because' thought there was going to be other kids there and that she would go horseback riding and do bonding activities with other girls. told that she showed up at the ranch and she was the only one there. thinks she was very uncomfortable about it but did not know how to say it. She wanted to play it safe with EPSTEIN because she did not want to mess up his relationship with did not want to ask EPSTEIN or MAXWELL why other girls were not there. tells that MAXWELL picked her up and took her shopping and bought her cowboy boots. MAXWELL was a put together woman and thinks that was impressed by her. MAXWELL showed where she would stay. The subject of massage comes up and MAXWELL asks if she ever had one. She responds "no" and MAXWELL says, "Oh you'll love it. 3521-001 Page2of4 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00008454 EFTA00159148 FD402a(Rev 54-10) HID-NY-3027571 CoMinualionaFD402of (U) Interview oft . O, 01/29/2021 " age 3 of 4 does not remember specifically why thought other girls would be there but remembered her saying it reassured her mother that other girls would be there. MAXWELL was charming and well put together and was impressed with her charisma. was set up for a fun girl trip and set up in a nice room. was uncomfortable that other girls were not there but MAXWELL was nice to her. tells about the massage and the massage room. MAXWELL took into the room. She gives instructions on how massages work. lies face down and takes her top off and is covered with a sheet. She receives a massage and during the course of the massage she realizes that EPSTEIN is in the room. She is shocked that all of a sudden EPSTEIN is there because it's a big house and she did not see him much. is confused on which one was being inappropriate. believes that both EPSTEIN and MAXWELL were in the room. was on the table very uncomfortable but did not say anything to them. was asked to roll over to her back and her breasts were fondled. does not remember who was doing the massage originally but MAXWELL outlined how the massage would work. cannot remember if MAXWELL originally started that massage or someone else did. believes she left at this point. has a more concrete memory when went back to the bedroom. was creeped out and totally freaked out and went to the bedroom. EPSTEIN followed her into the room and got into bed with her and cuddled up to her. said something at this point and got out of the bed and went to the bathroom. She said she had to go to the bathroom. The clearest detail that remembers is EPSTEIN crawling into bed with remembers the massage details but cannot remember some details. remembers EPSTEIN being there and jumping in for the massage. He knows talked to him about it back then but does not recall who actually started the massage. remembers tell him this during year of high school. After college, when they dated again between also talked about it. The conversation was always related to physical intimacy. 3521-00I Page3of4 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00008455 EFTA00159149 ED.302a (Rev 54.10) 50D-NY-3027571 Continuaiion of ED-302 of (U) Interview of .O, 01/29/2021 Ain , 4 of 4 was living in and he remembers an emotional outburst that had. They had not revisited it in quite a while. burst into tears. She says, "remember that stuff I told you about". remembers being caught off guard and not thinking it was related to the EPSTEIN incident. says that stuff still sticks with her and that when getting physical these feelings come out and she cannot explain it. They had not revisited those details but rather the impact that it had. tells about a trip to New York to visit He believes this is the first time that meets EPSTEIN. They went to see some kind of Broadway show. During the show, EPSTEIN sat in-between realizes that EPSTEIN is touching her leg at some point. He was grazing her leg and put his whole hand on her le saw on the other side and felt uncomfortable. told about this incident when they were in high school around the same time she told him about New Mexico. Since this has all come out on the news, and have talked about it but they have not talked about details. They talked about just the general experience with it. When EPSTEIN was arrested it was a topic of conversation but they have not talked about details. and have talked about how details have gotten fuzzy just in general, not about specific details. More of the conversations would be about ■ and how she is doing. is not a huge news follower but is kept abreast. gave no other interviews with press, law enforcement or private investigators. described as such an innocent person. They would have conversations about her being uncomfortable and just not knowing how to say anything. 3521-001 Page4of4 SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00008456 EFTA00159150