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Got it.
I'm waiting for a callback from State, but plan is still to lay this our
for a reporter with them and for them to turn over the documents later this
morning.
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 9:33 AM, Cheryl Mills <[email protected]>
wrote:
> I think the point can be made via noting that Sid was not a federal
> employee as needed (which as FYI means his emails only b/came federal
> records if used in the course of Dept business - so some were if forwarded
> and acted on and some weren't if nothing was done with them). But not sure
> it is worth the technical debate.
>
> So in your if pushed, you could say:
>
> *With regard to his materials, remember, Sid was never a federal employee*.
> We do not know what these materials are, or where they came from. Just take
> a look at them: many of the documents are not even formatted as emails.
>
> But even if Sid is right and some of these documents were at some point
> sent to Clinton, there is nothing in any of these emails that is remotely
> new or interesting. Indeed, none of these 16 emails are qualitatively
> different than the dozens of others that Hillary already produced to the
> State Department. So it is completely ridiculous to suggest that there
> might have been any nefarious basis for her to want to delete any of Sid's
> correspondence.
>
>
>
> cdm
>
> On Jun 25, 2015, at 7:56 AM, Heather Samuelson <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> I defer to CDM and David on if/how we want to address this.
>
> There was concern re prior language that I relayed to Brian and Nick.
>
> On Jun 25, 2015, at 12:12 AM, Jennifer Palmieri <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Shouldn't we also add somewhere that Sid was not s government employee
> and these aren't federal records?
>
> Heather -State would not consider these records, correct?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 24, 2015, at 10:40 PM, Brian Fallon <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Based on conversations today, below is the finalized version of the
> response plan:
>
> *Q: The State Department says that at least 16 of the emails
> that Sid Blumenthal turned over to the Benghazi Select Committee were not
> included in the 55,000 pages of materials produced by Hillary Clinton.
> Doesn't this prove that Hillary Clinton deleted certain emails at some
> point before producing them to the Department?*
>
> *ON-THE-RECORD RESPONSE FROM SPOKESMAN NICK MERRILL:*
>
> "Hillary Clinton has turned over 55,000 pages of materials to the State
> Department, including all emails in her possession from Mr. Blumenthal."
>
> *ADDITIONAL POINTS ON BACKGROUND FROM CLINTON AIDE:*
>
> Not only did Clinton turn over all emails that she has from Blumenthal,
> she actually turned over more than a dozen emails that were not included in
> what Mr. Blumenthal handed over to the House committee.
>
> We do not have a record of other correspondence between Mrs. Clinton and
> Mr. Blumenthal beyond that which was turned over to the State Department.
> In terms of the documents provided by Mr. Blumenthal to the House
> committee, we do not recognize many of those materials and cannot speak to
> their origin.
>
> *OFF RECORD, if pressed on whether we are essentially admitting the
> possibility that she deleted some emails:*
>
> Look, we do not know what these materials are, or where they came from.
> Just take a look at them: many of the documents are not even formatted as
> emails.
>
> But even if Sid is right and some of these documents were at some point
> sent to Clinton, there is nothing in any of these emails that is remotely
> new or interesting. Indeed, none of these 16 emails are qualitatively
> different than the dozens of others that Hillary already produced to the
> State Department. So it is completely ridiculous to suggest that there
> might have been any nefarious basis for her to want to delete any of Sid's
> correspondence.
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Heather Samuelson <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for update Nick
>>
>> Brian -- I will call you on this. Recommend removing section re Sid
>> not being a federal employee.
>>
>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 2:32 PM, Nick Merrill <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Just spoke to State a little more about this. A few updates.
>>
>> 1. The plan at the moment is for them to do this tomorrow, first thing
>> in the morning.
>>
>> 2. What that means specifically is that they are going to turn over all
>> the Blumenthal emails to the Committee that they hav along with some other
>> HRC emails that include a slightly broader set of search terms than the
>> original batch. That of course includes the emails Sid turned over that
>> HRC didn't, which will make clear to them that she didn't have them in the
>> first place, deleted them, or didn't turn them over. It also includes
>> emails that HRC had that Sid didn't, as Brian noted.
>>
>> 3. They do not plan to release anything publicly, so no posting online
>> or anything public-facing, just to the committee. That said, they are
>> considering placing a story with a friendly at the AP (Matt Lee or Bradley
>> Klapper), that would lay this out before the majority on the committee has
>> a chance to realize what they have and distort it.
>>
>> On that last piece, we think it would make sense to work with State and
>> the AP to deploy the below. So assuming everyone is in agreement we'll
>> proceed. It would be good to frame this a little, and frankly to have it
>> break tomorrow when we'll likely be close to or in the midst of a SCOTUS
>> decision taking over the news hyenas.
>>
>> Will keep everyone posted if anything changes, including the timing.
>>
>> Nick
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Brian Fallon <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> All - In preparation for the possibility that the State Department may
>>> acknowledge as soon as today that there were 16 Sid emails missing from the
>>> 55k pages of material produced by HRC, I wanted to circulate the below
>>> draft plan for responding to the inquiries that Nick will get. Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> *Q: The State Department says that at least 16 of the emails
>>> that Sid Blumenthal turned over to the Benghazi Select Committee were not
>>> included in the 55,000 pages of materials produced by Hillary Clinton.
>>> Doesn't this prove that Hillary Clinton deleted certain emails at some
>>> point before producing them to the Department?*
>>>
>>> *ON-THE-RECORD RESPONSE FROM SPOKESMAN NICK MERRILL:*
>>>
>>> "Hillary Clinton has turned over 55,000 pages of materials to the
>>> State Department, including all emails in her possession from Mr.
>>> Blumenthal."
>>>
>>> *ADDITIONAL POINTS ON BACKGROUND FROM CLINTON AIDE:*
>>>
>>> Not only did Clinton turn over all emails that she has from
>>> Blumenthal, she actually turned over more than a dozen emails that were not
>>> included in what Mr. Blumenthal handed over to the House committee.
>>>
>>> We do not have a record of other correspondence between Mrs. Clinton
>>> and Mr. Blumenthal beyond that which was turned over to the State
>>> Department. In terms of the documents provided by Mr. Blumenthal to the
>>> House committee, we do not recognize many of those materials and cannot
>>> speak to their origin.
>>>
>>> *OFF RECORD, if pressed on whether we are essentially admitting the
>>> possibility that she deleted some emails:*
>>>
>>> Look, we do not know what these materials are, or where they came
>>> from. Just take a look at them: many of the documents are not even
>>> formatted as emails.
>>>
>>> For all we know, it could be that, in the course of reproducing his
>>> emails after his account was hacked, Sid misremembered which memos he
>>> actually forwarded to her and which he did not.
>>>
>>> And hey, even if Sid is right and some of these documents were at some
>>> point sent to Clinton, this is unremarkable anyway for two key reasons:
>>>
>>> One, she would have been under no obligation to preserve them since
>>> Blumenthal wasn't a government employee.
>>>
>>> Two, there is nothing in any of these emails that is remotely new or
>>> interesting. Indeed, none of these 16 emails are qualtitatively
>>> different than the dozens of others that Hillary already produced to the
>>> State Department. So it is completely ridiculous to suggest that there
>>> might have been any nefarious basis for her to want to delete any of Sid's
>>> correspondence.
>>>
>>
>>
>
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