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*Main Topics:* Surrogates respond to Clark's remarks and predictions on
future terror attacks, McCain's free trade campaign, McSame on Social
Security
*Summary of Shift:* Obama's faith-based program initiative was the
centerpiece for tonight's political coverage. Several programs report that
tomatoes may not be the source of a recent salmonella outbreak. Reports on
the commander of the SS Cole, the Christian left and shock hazards the US
soldiers face in their showers in Iraq were also featured stories. Bobby
Jindal faces an angry constituency and state legislature in the face of a
controversy over legislative pay raises. In lieu of increased likelihood
that Israel will strike Iran imminently an Iranian foreign minister declares
Iran will make no distinction between an attack from Israel or the US.
Highlights
1) McCain surrogates on the airwaves
a. CNN: Rudy Giuliani raises the specter of future terror attack on US
soil
b. MSNBC: Pfotenhauer claims Bush's Iraq policy was unpopular with
himself
2) McCain's free-trade campaigning
a. CNN: Panel finds McCain's strategy utterly laughable
b. MSNBC: Maddow makes the Black-Colombia connection
c. MSNBC: McCain's travels are likely a way to court the Latino vote
3) MSNBC: Panelists expect McCain to distance himself from Bush on Social
Security
4) CNN: Independent contractors will no longer be under immunity in Iraq
[no clip]
5) FNC: Shepard Smith covers McCain's claim that Obama will pack the
Supreme Court with liberals
6) CNN: John McCain plans to hold a softball tournament in lieu of a ban
on fireworks in Arizona [no clip]
7) CNN: McCain campaign pulls web ad on site that links Obama followers
to followers of Adolph Hitler [no clip]
8) CNN: Iraq goes through near-catastrophic gas shortages [no clip]
9) FNC: Comparison of Obama's and McCain's platform on nuclear power [no
clip]
10) CNN: Comparison of Obama's and McCain's energy, economic and tax
platform [no clip]
11) MSNBC: Olbermann reports: McCain doesn't know the price of gas [no clip]
12) MSNBC: *Hardball* reports on Roberta McCain being "muzzled" [no clip]
13) MSNBC: During segment on Gen Clark's comments, lower-third of screen bar
reads, "2003: McCain Says War Service Doesn't Qualify You For Pres." [no
clip]
Clips
Highlight #1
*Rudy Giuliani: 'The Safe Thing is to Assume They're Gonna Attack Us Again'
*(CNN 07/01/08 5:30pm)
[Clip opens with summary of John McCain's appearance at the Sherriff's
Association, moves to excerpt of Clark's statement and then to interview.]
RUDY GIULIANI: [laughing] John McCain's not running as a fighter pilot. John
McCain has also been a United States Senator, United States Congressman;
he's probably been one of the most active—maybe even, in some ways, a
controversial—member of the United States Senate by taking on a leadership
role, which he even stood up against his own party.
JOHN ROBERTS: But he is using his military service as a centerpiece to
burnish his credentials on national security.
GIULIANI: I think he's using his many, many years of experience in the
United States Senate, going all over the world, being involved in
negotiations and discussions on almost every single world issue. To try to
say that John McCain is running as a fighter pilot is kinda—I mean, it's
laughable.
ROBERTS: Is Senator McCain—
GIULIANI: The difference is—and I think this is why Wesley Clark is doing
this—Senator Obama has no experience. Senator Obama has a very short career
in the United States Senate, where he's accomplished nothing compared to
John McCain who's past landmark legislation and, before that, he was in the
state legislature. So, when you put the two resumes against each other, one
has the background and experience to take on the most difficult job in the
world. The other there's a real question mark about.
ROBERTS: Is Senator McCain any more qualified on national security than you
are?
GIULIANI:* Is Senator McCain more qualified? He certainly has more
experience than I have.* I think I know quite a bit about national security
because I've been in the Justice Department. I've negotiated with foreign
governments. I've traveled to 35 countries. I just got back from Kazakhstan,
but I consider John McCain one of the premiere experts on national security
in our country right now.
ROBERTS: Because I remember back in September of 2007 he said this about
your experience. He said, 'I think the nation respects the mayor's
leadership after 9/11 and I do too. I don't think it translates necessarily,
into foreign policy or national security expertise. I know of nothing in his
background that indicates he has any experience in it, with him or Romney.'
GIULIANI: I think that John—we were running against each other then and we
say things about each other I think if John—
ROBERTS: You say things that aren't true?
GIULIANI: Well I think John maybe wasn't focusing on the fact that I was the
third-ranking official in the Justice Department, that I had a lot of
contact with Interpol, that I negotiated with two or three foreign
governments, that I've been in—I've been on 90 foreign trips in the last six
years alone, that I've lead delegations. I've had a good deal of foreign
policy experience, but, if you're asking me, 'Has John?' John has had just
about the most of anyone that has ever run for president.
ROBERTS: But do you think he's more qualified to be president than you are?
GIULIANI: I thought I was the best qualified to be president and I once
announced in a debate […], if I wasn't running, John McCain would be my
candidate. So, for personal reasons, […] I though I was the best qualified,
but I thought John was number two.
ROBERTS: Doesn't that mean […] you're better able to handle national
security?
GIULIANI: *It isn't just about foreign policy.* It isn't just about domestic
policy. It's about a whole array of things.
I'm not a candidate. I'm not a choice. John was my number two choice after
me and I got out of the race when I did because I was so convinced it was
important for the country that John McCain get nominated. I didn't want to
stand in the way of him.
ROBERTS: Senator Joe Lieberman said something the other day that took some
people by surprise. He predicted that America will be the subject of another
terrorist attack on the homeland, in early 2009 […]. Many people out
there—democrats mostly—are saying, 'Hey! He's playing into the politics of
fear here.'
GIULIANI: I don't think the Senator's doing that. I think that what the
Senator's trying to do is deal with something that's almost inscrutable,
which is, how to interpret what these terrorists were gonna do. *Here's the
safe thing for us to do: the safe thing for us to do is to assume they're
gonna attack us again and to be prepared for it.*
ROBERTS: Do you believe there will be an attack? Are you as convinced as he
is?
GIULIANI: Do I believe that they are attempting to attack us again?
Absolutely. Do I know if they'll be successful at it? I hope not.
They have attempted to attack us again
ROBERTS: But [Lieberman] was pretty definitive about this, saying that there
will be a terror attack in early 2009.
GIULIANI: But excess of caution—*you're better off assuming there's gonna be
an attack.*
ROBERTS: So would you make that prediction? I would not predict a time and
what I would say is, *'We should be on guard that there will be an attack.
They are attempting to attack us. We are attempting to stop them. You cannot
always be 100% perfect.'*
I was in London for the attacks in London a few years ago and it was a very
eerie experience, having been in New York, sort of at the center of that
group of attacks and then in London, a half-block away from the Liverpool
station where the first bomb went off. So I'm the last one that's ever gonna
discount the possibility of an attack.
ROBERTS: […] There appears to be a direct connection between camps in
Pakistan and what happened there in London on July 7th. Do you believe the
Unite States should be more active in chasing down terrorists in Pakistan?
GIULIANI: […] I've been saying that for quite some time. […] Pakistan is an
independent government with nuclear weapons. That's gotta be worked about
but it's gotta be worked out in a way that we achieve our objective.
ROBERTS: […] do you believe there is any place for Osama Bin Laden in the
American judicial system?
GIULIANI: This is a military matter. It's not a judicial—but this is part of
the problem with the whole Barack Obama campaign and the whole democratic
approach to this. They want to treat this as a criminal justice matter and
it isn't. This is the thing we failed to see in 1993 when they attacked us
at the World Trade Center. It was treated purely as a criminal justice
matter. We gotta get beyond that.
This is a war. This is a situation in which they have attacked us. They've
attacked us over and over again. We've been very fortunate since September
11, 2001—since we've been on offense under President Bush—not to have a
domestic attack. If we go back into this, 'let's treat this as a criminal
justice matter solely,' I believe we're gonna put our country in much more
jeopardy. At least, that's my opinion.
ROBERTS: […] You were quite happy to have them prosecuted in the justice
system [in 1993]. Why not now?
GIULIANI: That's because I didn't know then what I know now. I don't
criticize the people for doing that back then.
ROBERTS: So are you saying you were wrong for saying that back then?
GIULIANI: I didn't know the facts that I know now. What I have said since
September 11 is, 'If we knew back in 1993 what we found out on September 11,
we should have treated this as a long-term terrorist issue.' Now, knowing
those facts, why would you want to go back to treating it purely as a
criminal justice matter?
ROBERTS: So you were premature in those comments? I didn't have the facts at
that time. When I got the facts, I changed my mind.
*Pfotenhauer: McCain's Surge Policy "Was Particularly Unpopular With
President Bush," Defends McCain Against Fear-Mongering Charges* (MSNBC
07/01/08 10:54am)
MONICA NOVOTNY: Are Republicans flaying the fear card in arguing John
McCain's foreign policy experience? Last week McCain's chief strategist came
under fire for saying an attack in the United States would benefit his
candidate. This week it is Joe Lieberman's turn. McCain supporters saying
that his candidate would be the one that would be best prepared if there
were a terror attack in 2009.
[clip of Lieberman]
NOVOTNY: […] So Nancy, two men both tied to the McCain campaign talking
about terrorist attacks alongside the candidate's credentials. Is this
playing into the vote fears?
NANCY PFOTENHAUER: I don't think so. I think it's discussing what's
obviously on the minds of many American voters and on the front page of most
newspapers […] My own poll of one, if you will, is that we've been spending
as much or more time talking about the economy and particularly the energy
crisis as we have been the concerns […] and the challenges we face in the
national security arena.
[…]
PFOTENHAUER: *As you recall, when Senator McCain challenged the surge, […]
or challenged the current strategy in Iraq and was pushing the surge,
alongside General Petraeus, this was incredibly unpopular here in
Washington. It was particularly unpopular with President Bush.* And he did
it because that's when he felt was right on the ground. And he put the
interests of the country first. History has shown that he was right on that
call.
NOVOTNY: Let's get back to Lieberman's comments. White House spokesman Dana
Perino said that she agreed was Senator Lieberman. Is this part now of some
October Surprise strategy at play?
PFOTENHAUER: Not at all. That I can attest to. […] Senator Lieberman, is, of
course, known as one of the most analytical and thoughtful members of the
U.S. Senate. I think he was doing an historical analysis, which is really
how show approaches almost any issue.[…]
Highlight #2
*Panel Finds McCain's Free Trade Campaigning Decision Questionable* (CNN
07/01/08 8:24pm)
KITTY PILGRIM: Senator McCain [is] traveling to Colombia, then going to
Mexico. Just fill me on what you think this strategy—how this makes sense,
Steve.
STEVE COCHRAN: Well, I'm not sure that it does, from a political standpoint
because swing states being crucial and swing states being in the economic
position they're in—it's tough. You can argue all you want about this being
a new economy and a world-wide economy, until the rest of the world plays by
the same rules and standards that we hold America to the imbalance is just
gonna get bigger and bigger and people are gonna lose jobs. So we can make
the rules and we can keep our end of the bargain, but the people we're
dealing with aren't doing their share. China's a fine example of that on the
other end of the world.
[…]
WILMER LEON: […] when Senator McCain's primary solutions seem to be
improving programs for unemployed workers and increasing unemployment
benefits or continuing unemployment benefits instead of really trying to
find tangible and workable solutions, in terms of how we're gonna stop this
country from hemorrhaging jobs.
[Airs a segment from McCain's free trade commercial with Spanish subtitles.]
PILGRIM: [attempting to contain laughter] It really is hard to see how this
is going to sell….
[Panel laughs collectively]
[…]
MARK SIMONE: [also attempting to contain laughter] Basically some people
wonder: Does McCain even really want to win this and why [Pilgrim chuckles]
even bring this up? It's like campaigning with a Halliburton jacket on.
COCHRAN: And an Enron hat.
[laughter]
SIMONE: This would be like Obama taking Wesley Clark to dinner tonight. I
mean, why would you even do this? It's like the third rail of the
subway—stay away from it!
LEON: [McCain] also wants to equate people who want to even negotiate or
discuss this issue—he equates them to be isolationists and protectionists
and these are a lot of people who just want to keep their jobs. They just
want to feed their families. There's nothing—well, you're protecting your
job—but there's nothing isolationist about wanting to feed your family.
[Pilgrim introduces new CNN/Opinion research poll from June 26-29:
Foreign trade is a threat to economy – 51%
Opportunity for economic growth – 41%]
PILGRIM: […] if you look at it over time that 51% […] has come up from 35%
in the year 2000. So increasingly Americans are starting to see these
lopsided trade policies as a threat to their economy.
SIMONE: *That's why you gotta wonder about McCain's judgment.* It wasn't
necessary to even do this. Why did he even bother?
COCHRAN: Well because you know, he doesn't want to be accused of
flip-flopping on it, but *he is literally at a tipping point here and he
needs to go very quiet on this issue and not deal with it and move forward
on other things because the damage done by flip-flopping is nothing compared
to the damage he's gonna do if he sticks to this line.*
PILGRIM: By taking the wrong subject to the American public […].
[The panel moves to a discussion of Obama's evangelical outreach.]
SIMONE: […] McCain is weak there. McCain doesn't speak their language. If he
is a very religious guy, he's kept it very private. […]
*McCain's Colombia Trip Puts Black "Back Under the Microscope" *(MSNBC
07/01/08 6:30pm)
RACHAEL MADDOW: *Because of this Colombia trip, back under the microscope
now is McCain's campaign advisor, Charlie Black, whose lobbying firm has
represented Colombian oil interests.* Black isn't going with McCain to
Colombia but McCain choosing this trip, this country, ensures more headlines
about Charlie Black and about the lobbyists and ex-lobbyists who are in
McCain's inner circle. *Michelle, do you think McCain thinks the lobbyist
controversy has blown over? That it's too complicated an issue to do him any
real political harm?*
MICHELLE BERNARD*: I think he probably would've thought that until this
program aired tonight . . . otherwise he would not be taking this trip right
now. This is the issue that will not go away* . . . it is very difficult to
get away from people who have not been lobbyists in some capacity whatsoever
. . . *I think the McCain campaign is going to just stop talking about the
problem with lobbyists as much as possible and hope that that's an issue
that will go away.*
[. . .]
MADDOW: . . . is this a liability for McCain at this point or is it
something that he's put past him?
*McCain has Little Support for his Immigration Platform but Colombia Trip
Lets Him Campaign Across the US *(MSNBC 07/01/08 5:10pm)
ANDREA MITCHELL: . . . John McCain really got killed among the conservative
base, the Republican base, for the position that he took on immigration,
where he aligned himself with George Bush. So he's not getting credit from
the Hispanic community at the same time as he's getting killed among the
base.
CHUCK TODD: And well part of it, he's changed his rhetoric too . . . but
look, this trip to Colombia and then to Mexico, he's going to visit some
very important religious symbols to . . . Catholic Hispanics. He's going to
get saturation coverage with the Hispanic media here in the United States.
This is . . . as if he's courting New Mexico voters and Florida voters and
Arizona voters and Colorado voters by going to Colombia.
Highlight #3
*McCain Expected to Push McDifferent on Social Security *(MSNBC 07/01/08
6:25pm)
RACHAEL MADDOW*: . . . a new Gallup poll shows . . . 68% who say they are
worried, to a certain extent, that McCain is too close to Bush. Smelling
blood, the DNC is now running another ad linking McCain and Bush . . .*
[DNC ad comparing Bush and McCain on Social Security runs]
MADDOW: Is Social Security another issue on which we should expect McCain to
try to put some distance between himself and Bush? Does McCain need a few
more issues where he can say, "Look, I disagree with the president"? . . .
GENE ROBINSON: Well, I don't see how he can do it on Social Security . . .
he's taken the position that private accounts would be necessary to save the
system. You know, that's really one of the traditional electric third rails
of politics and I can't imagine that stance is really going to do McCain a
lot of good, either in trying to distance himself from George Bush or simply
in trying to get elected president.
JOHN HARWOOD: . . . he could renounce privatization. There's been some
ambiguity between McCain and his advisors on exactly what he supported,
whether he was going to go back Bush's route and look, even if you support
privatization, it is plain . . . that's not going anywhere. So what John
McCain could do in a bold stroke was renounce it . . .
MADDOW: I think that we're beginning to see a little bit of that in the way
*that he has distanced himself from the word "privatization" even though he
is still saying he is in favor of private accounts* . . .
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Jacob Roberts
PAO
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