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From: Lvjel <la>
To: jeevacation(qtmail.com
Subject: 8727
Date: Wcd, 09 Oct 2013 22:13:23 +0000
Attachments: B727cngincinspcction.pdf; FuclpriccDubia.pdf
Jeffrey. how does this email to the Sultan look? can you insert corrections please? I will send after you approve.
thx. Larry
Dear Sultan.
in response to operational cost. Pleas see my comments in BLUE ink to your original email.
I have compiled actual cost to address these numbers that were presented to you,. many of these numbers are inflated. I have attached
the actual cost of the #2 engine corrosion inspection for your review. Price for #2 engine was $237.000.00 and will not be due until 2021 now,
its a 8 year inspection on this engine.
Engines #1 and #3 are due every 9 years, and come due 2014. next year. I have included a verbal quote received today from Atlantic Gas
Turbines in Miami, price for #1 and #3 engines is $118,500 per engine, however that does not include possible repair of LLP turbine disc that
may require additional replacement, "IF" needed price per engine is budged at $225k to MAX of $300k for each engine total, see email below:
NOT the $1M per engine your email states below:
Engines #1 and #3 are verbally quoted in this email from today:
From:
Date: October 9. 2013. 5:30:50 PM EDT
To:
Subject: 219 Engines: Repair Estimate
Hi Larry.
I discussed with Atlantic Gas Turbine Corp today the two 219 engines that will require ASB 6435 HPC Corrosion Inspection
and Hot Section Inspection of exposed combustion hardware.
They verbally indicated a fixed price to accomplish
ASB 6435! AD HPC Corrosion Inspection
HSI Inspection
Test/ Fuel and Oil
all Build Up ( 100% expendables) parts
Strip/ Repair and Recoat of HPC Disks
Return engine to service. Preserve Long Term
Pricing was quoted at $118.500.00 per engine.
LLP Replacement will be considered Over and Above this pricing
as will any other requirements to the engine due to exposure for ASB 6435.
With replacement of LLPs and possibly requirements to the N1 Compressor! Fan Section due to condition
a good budgetary estimate for Repair of the engines would be in the range of 5 225K to 5300K per engine.
AGTC can provide a written quotation at your request.
Thanks
Michael Maier
Dear Sultan,
Re the 8727 Super VIP, have been trying to put a number on the costs.
On first thought is that this a very expensive plane to operate, as it was manufactured in 1969, which
makes it 44 years old.
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Without seeing the current inspection status and what is due, it is hard to put a "cost' to the maintenance
requirements.
If the aircraft was to be operated on a "Dry Lease" — ( A dry lease is a leasing arrangement whereby an
aircraft financing entity, such as GECAS and ILFC (lessor), provides an aircraft without insurance, crew,
ground staff, supporting equipment, maintenance, etc.) then you would pay a fixed cost for the "lease" of
the aircraft and then be responsible for all other direct operating costs plus maintenance.
I have attached a breakdown of what the fixed costs are estimated to be. As you will see this is approx.
$1,220,651 per year.
FUEL Burn is 1350 gallons per hour fact at Mach .80 and if you fly at Mach .78 fuel burn is 1250 gallons per hour, our
aircraft flys at 39,000 and 41,000 ft regularly, some pilots elect to fly lower such as 33,000 and 35,000 feet, this will
give you the 1575 gallons per hour your sheet states.
The variable costs (ie the cost to fly the aircraft are estimated to be $13,617 per hour) PLEASF NOTF
THIS EXCLUDES ANY MAJOR PFRODIC MAINTFNCF nuF (i.e. Yearly C checks and D checks as well
as engine visits
There are No "D" checks on this maintenance program as stated above this aircraft is MSG-3 maintenance specialty
formulated for Low utilization aircraft New Gulfstream 550 and similar come from the factory with MSG-3. We
complete C1 and C2 checks in multiples of two Next year 2014 is a light "C" that we hudgeted $150 000 00 next
heavy "C" check is 2016. MSG-3 programs section each part of the aircraft that is address each 24 months such as
Tail section Wing internals Lower Bildge Fuselage and below floor We just oompleted the Lower bilge
inspection during this maintenance visit which required us to remove all the AUX Fuel tanks located in the fwd and aft
fuselage 11 total for inspection and overhaul.
The more hours you fly then your hourly cost comes down.
However, for example, x2 of the engines are due AD 2003-16-05, this involves a complete engine strip
down, and I estimate this will cost approx. $1 mill per engine as well as 3months down time.
S1M per engine is not correct, I have attached the estimate for the corrosion inspection just completed on #2
engine, This requirement on #2 engine is 8 year intervals, next due is 2021. Total price for #2 engine which
has 35,190 hours corrosion inspection was $237,000.00 total, (I am in the process of obtaining a firm price for
engine #1 and #3 which have a total time of only 3720 hours from the same shop that completed our #2
engine). Down time is quoted as 35 - 40 days.
I also see a "C" check is due in Feb 2014 — on a 1969 vintage aircraft, you are looking at an open
cheque book.
TRAINING:
There is mention of Crew Training at a cost of $99,000.00 per year, I use FM approved PanAM Flight academy in
Miami training my pilots for $6,500 for TOTAL for all three crew member,.
FUEL Pricing:
I have firm fuel price for today in Dubai at $3.30 per gallon, and Paris is $5.90, your email below indicates an average
fuel price of $7.38
I have attached quote.
Insurance cost for 2013 was $125,000
BOEING VIP SUPER 727
ESTIMATED VARIABLE COSTS PER HOUR
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Corporate
Fuel (1) $11.623.50
Fuel Additives 0.00
Lubricants 0.00
Maintenance Labor (2) 427.50
Parts Arframe/Eng/Avion (3) 197.43
Engine Restoration (4) 627.06
Thrust Reverser Allowance 12.54
Propeller Allowance 0.00
APU Allowance 68.97
Major Periodic Maintenance 0.00
Misc Exp. Landing/Parking 216.21
- Crew Expenses 290.58
- Supplies/Catering 153.30
- Other 0.00
Total Variable Cost/Hour $13,617.09
Cost per Nautical Mile $31.30
Average Speed-Kts (5) 435.00
REFERENCE
Size of operation: Date: 10/6/2013 Currency: $
1. Fuel Cost 7.38
Gallons/Hour Blk Fuel/Flt Time +15% 1,575
2. Maint Labor Cost per Hr 90.00
Maint. Hrs/Flt Hours 4.75
Aircraft Model Year 1984
3. Ind Engine Parts Cost No
Engine Model JT8D-17 & 217C
4. Overhaul Cost Source Estimated
5. Block Speed Source Mttr Data
ANNUAL FIXED COSTS
B727 VIP Super 27
Corporate
Crew Salaries - Captain (6) $161,000
- Co Pilot 120,000
- Flt Attendant 90.000
- Flt Eng/Other 0
- Benefits 111,300
Hangar - Typical 179,600
Insurance - Hull (7) 160,000
Single Limit Liability 16,000
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Recurrent Training 99.000
Aircraft Modernization (8) 75,000
Navigation Chart Service 15,001
Refurbishing (9) 179.550
Computer Maintenance Program (10) 13,500
Weather Service (11) 700
Other Fixed Costs 0
Frac Mgmt Fee/Yr + Tax 0
Total Fixed Cost/Year $1,220,651
REFERENCE
Size of operation: Date: 10/6/2013 Currency:
6. Crew Salary Source 12 NBAA
Number of Crew 3
7. Ins Hull Value/Frac Share Cost $8.000,000
Hull Insurance Rate (%) 2.00
8. Modernization 10 Yr Avg
9. Refurbish Labor Hrs/Seat 105
10. Comp Mx Program Source Typical
11. Weather Service Source Typical
ANNUAL BUDGET
B727 VIP Super 27
Corporate
Utilization - Nt. Miles 175,000
- Hours 402
Variable Cost 5.474,070
Fixed Cost 1.220,651
Total Cost (No Depreciation) $6,694,721
- Per Hour 16,654
- Per Nt. Mile 38.28
- Per Seat Nt. Mile 2.01
Total Cost (No Depreciation) 6.694,721
Book Depreciation (12) 800,000
Total Cost (Book Dep.) 575494,721
- Per Hour 18,644
- Per Nt. Mile 42.86
- Per Seat Nt. Mile 2.26
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Total Cost (No Depreciation) 6.694,721
Market Depreciation (13) 320,000
Total Cost (Market Dep) $7,014,721
- Per Hour 17,450
- Per Nt. Mile 40.11
- Per Seat Nt. Mile 2.11
REFERENCE
Size of operation: Date: 10/6/2013 Currency:
12. Book Depreciation Rate 10
13. Market Depreciation Rate 4
GENERAL COMPARISON
B727 VIP Super 27
Corporate
Cabin Height (Ft) 6.90
- Width 11.50
- Length 92.70
Cabin Volume (Cu. Ft.) 6,425.00
Cabin Door Height (Ft.) 6.00
- Width 2.80
Baggage - Int. (Cu.Ft.) 10.00
- External 750.00
Typical Crew/Pass Seating 3 / 19
Weight - Max Take-off (Lbs.) 194.800
- Maximum Landing 158,000
- Basic Operating 115.000
- Usable Fuel 77,260
Payload-Full Fuel (Lbs.) 3,240
- Maximum 26,000
Certified Yes
IFR Certified Yes
Price - New (Corporate)/1000 SO
- Pre Owned Rng/1000 5000 8000
- Years Produced 1968 1984
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PERFORMANCE COMPARISON
B727 VIP Super 27
Corporate
Range - NBAA IFR Res (N. Mi.)
- 4 Passenger 3,900
- Ferry Range 4,050
Range 30 Min. Res (N. ML) 0
- 4 Passenger 0
- Ferry Range 0
Balanced Field Length (Ft.) 5,550
Landing Distance - FAR 91 2,250
Landing Distance - FAR 121 3,750
Landing Distance - FAR 135 2,813
Rate of Climb (Ft/Min) 2.380
- One Engine Out 0
Cruise Speed - Max (KTAS) 485
- Normal 465
-Long Range 455
Stall Speed (IAS) 0
Ceiling Certified MTOW (Ft.) 42,000
- Service 42,000
- Service OEI 31,000
Ceiling Service HIGE (Helicopter Only) 0
Ceiling Service HOGE (Helicopter Only) 0
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