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I cant watch again now on train and I forget the script exactly but it suggested they walked away with billions from havng done illegal and immoral lending. Cant remember if they used word subprime.
I did skim some news clips and it appears default rates on their stuff was high (herb says not more so than others) and the losses were key to almsot wachovia failure -- athough herb emphasizes that they were only one of the institutions problems. so we should try to understand these facts and get them right in pushback.
I reached out to martin eakes too and will try to reach him. In some ways they (esp their california office) are most knowledgable and in best position to say what characteristics of golden west portfolio was and why this was unfair. Not sure their comfort zone.
Did herb sound like he' d' talked to martin?
I suspect there is a movement of wachovia employees who are angry and may be driving some of this.
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To: Sarah Wartell; Daniella Leger; Faiz Shakir; [email protected] <[email protected]>; John Halpin; Jennifer Palmieri; Debby Goldberg
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For some reason I lost audio on my laptop. So I haven't heard what they said in the skit. Were they portrayed as subprime lenders? They didn't do any subprimes. I did see should be shot label. Talked to Herb. They are obviosly upset. Weird that snl should pick them out. They did soros too so maybe this is one of those right wing writers ala ABC 9/11.
At any rate, we should figure out a way to push back.
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Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 13:25:39
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My impression had always been that while world savings/golden west led in the area of adjustible rate mortgages they did so with pretty conservative underwriting and underwrote to the fully indexed rate. That is certainly not the impression on gets from the current media and I tried to figure out how i know that and i cant find anything to that effect in a quick review. Whatever the case there, given their role in CRL and advocacy for sound underwriting practices the charactchure (sp?) is unfair.
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No way...
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The chyron labeled them "people who should be shot"
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Sent: Sun Oct 05 00:01:42 2008
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And it was very bad.
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SNL just did a skit in bailout w/characters playing herb annbd marion sandler!!!!
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