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I agree with John on this. I think a more muscular answer to "Did you and BHO underestimate ISIS" or "Do you think BHO should be doing more to combat ISIS" is very important.
Mandy Grunwald
Grunwald Communications
202 973-9400
> On Dec 5, 2015, at 10:54 AM, Karen Dunn <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> This is a great point. After the last debate, she expressed considerable discomfort with where she feels she has to be with Obama on FP (Jake will know more than I do but I think this was a contributing force to some of the paralysis we saw). One hypothesis is that she has earned a lot of room through hugging on the domestic that it should free her on foreign policy/national security. And frankly, since she will be tied to him on much of the policy, stylistic differences may be our friend. Already, she has been more forceful on guns/gun lobby than any other person who ever seriously ran for president (in fact, recall that she said certain members of the dem caucus were freaking out about it).
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>> On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 10:22 AM, John Podesta <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Sorry, I spent yesterday off line as a result of Sandy's funeral and other events. I think the one thing missing from this very good strategic memo is positioning vis a vis Obama. We have more or less hugged him on economics, health care and Wall Street. We have differentiated on Syria, but have not criticized. I think the question going into this debate is as much about his personal style as it is specific plans. I think there is a perception that he's slouching into the San Bernadino events that the Republicans are successfully exploiting that. That may be OBE by the debate, but we need to figure out what her posture is on direct questions about the President's performance.
>> We'll also probably redebate criminal justice/ race issues through the personal politics around Rahm, but that we can manage in a Q&A.
>>
>>
>>> On Saturday, December 5, 2015, Ron Klain <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> This incorporates the input from Jen, Joel, Jim, and Mandy. (The only change we did not implement was Mandy’s suggestion to delete a lot of the statistics in the Wall Street answer; for now, we were for keeping all the options in play.) Otherwise, we believe we captured all your suggestions – and hit Joel’s point about core message/fighting in several places.
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>>> This has been sent to HRC.
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>>> Ron and Karen
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I agree with John on this. I think a more muscular answer to "Did you and B=
HO underestimate ISIS" or "Do you think BHO should be doing more to combat I=
SIS" is very important.
Mandy Grunwald
Grunwald Communications
202 973-9400
> On Dec 5, 2015, at 10:54 AM, Karen Dunn <[email protected]> wrote:
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> This is a great point. After the last debate, she expressed considerable d=
iscomfort with where she feels she has to be with Obama on FP (Jake will kno=
w more than I do but I think this was a contributing force to some of the pa=
ralysis we saw). One hypothesis is that she has earned a lot of room throug=
h hugging on the domestic that it should free her on foreign policy/national=
security. And frankly, since she will be tied to him on much of the policy=
, stylistic differences may be our friend. Already, she has been more forcef=
ul on guns/gun lobby than any other person who ever seriously ran for presid=
ent (in fact, recall that she said certain members of the dem caucus were fr=
eaking out about it).
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>> On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 10:22 AM, John Podesta <[email protected]> wr=
ote:
>> Sorry, I spent yesterday off line as a result of Sandy's funeral and othe=
r events. I think the one thing missing from this very good strategic memo i=
s positioning vis a vis Obama. We have more or less hugged him on economics,=
health care and Wall Street. We have differentiated on Syria, but have not c=
riticized. I think the question going into this debate is as much about his p=
ersonal style as it is specific plans. I think there is a perception that he=
's slouching into the San Bernadino events that the Republicans are successf=
ully exploiting that. That may be OBE by the debate, but we need to figure o=
ut what her posture is on direct questions about the President's performance=
.
>> We'll also probably redebate criminal justice/ race issues through the pe=
rsonal politics around Rahm, but that we can manage in a Q&A.
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>>=20
>>> On Saturday, December 5, 2015, Ron Klain <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> This incorporates the input from Jen, Joel, Jim, and Mandy. (The only c=
hange we did not implement was Mandy=E2=80=99s suggestion to delete a lot of=
the statistics in the Wall Street answer; for now, we were for keeping all t=
he options in play.) Otherwise, we believe we captured all your suggestion=
s =E2=80=93 and hit Joel=E2=80=99s point about core message/fighting in seve=
ral places.
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>>> This has been sent to HRC.
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>>> Ron and Karen
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div><br></div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignatur=
e">I agree with John on this. I think a more muscular answer to "Did y=
ou and BHO underestimate ISIS" or "Do you think BHO should be doing more to c=
ombat ISIS" is very important.<br><br>Mandy Grunwald<div>Grunwald Communicat=
ions</div><div>202 973-9400</div><div><br></div></div><div><br>On Dec 5, 201=
5, at 10:54 AM, Karen Dunn <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">kar=
[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">This is a great point. After the last debate, she e=
xpressed considerable discomfort with where she feels she has to be with Oba=
ma on FP (Jake will know more than I do but I think this was a contributing f=
orce to some of the paralysis we saw). One hypothesis is that she has e=
arned a lot of room through hugging on the domestic that it should free her o=
n foreign policy/national security. And frankly, since she will be tie=
d to him on much of the policy, stylistic differences may be our friend. Alr=
eady, she has been more forceful on guns/gun lobby than any other person who=
ever seriously ran for president (in fact, recall that she said certain mem=
bers of the dem caucus were freaking out about it).<div><br></div><div><div>=
<div><br></div><div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div><div class=3D"gma=
il_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Jo=
hn Podesta <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" t=
arget=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote=
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid=
;padding-left:1ex">Sorry, I spent yesterday off line as a result of Sandy's f=
uneral and other events. I think the one thing missing from this very good s=
trategic memo is positioning vis a vis Obama. We have more or less hugg=
ed him on economics, health care and Wall Street. We have differentiate=
d on Syria, but have not criticized. I think the question going into this de=
bate is as much about his personal style as it is specific plans. I think th=
ere is a perception that he's slouching into the San Bernadino events that t=
he Republicans are successfully exploiting that. That may be OBE by the=
debate, but we need to figure out what her posture is on direct questions a=
bout the President's performance.<div>We'll also probably redebate criminal j=
ustice/ race issues through the personal politics around Rahm, but that=
we can manage in a Q&A.<div><div class=3D"h5"><br><div><br>On Saturday,=
December 5, 2015, Ron Klain <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D=
"_blank">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div l=
ang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thi=
s incorporates the input from Jen, Joel, Jim, and Mandy. (The only cha=
nge we did not implement was Mandy=E2=80=99s suggestion to delete a lot of t=
he statistics in the Wall Street answer; for now, we were for keeping all th=
e options in play.) Otherwise, we believe we captured all your s=
uggestions =E2=80=93 and hit Joel=E2=80=99s point about core message/fightin=
g in several places.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u> <u=
></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">This has been sent to HRC.<u></u><u></u></p>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ron an=
d Karen<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div>
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