Marco Rubio on CNN’s The Lead w/ Jake Tapper (4/14/15)

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http://mms.tveyes.com/ClipEditor.aspx?hl=&StationID=100&ClipDateTime=04/14/2015+16:34:45 *(4:34:45pm)* *Tapper: *You came up to Washington today to participate in the Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing on Iran, specifically a bill to get some sort of congressional oversight. *Rubio: *Right. *Tapper: *When your colleague Senator Tom Cotton, whose letter to the mullahs you signed a few weeks ago- was on the show last he said surgical strikes against the Iranian nuclear sites would be preferable to this deal. Do you agree? *Rubio: *First of all, I think that military action should only be taken when it's the best option available and we would hope there would be leadership shift in Iran at some point that would make them realize that either you're going to have an economy, a modern economy, a prosperous one, or you’re going to have a nuclear weapon but you can't have both and at that point if they don't realize that, then certainly military strikes are something that are on the table. *Tapper: *You would go for greater sanctions before anything like that?-- *Rubio: *Absolutely because I think first of all, the sanctions are what allow us the opportunity and brought us to this point and not only are the sanctions important in terms of preventing the nuclear capability it also has an impact on their ability to sponsor terrorism all over the world. But look there may come a point when military action is necessary because anything is preferable to them having a nuclear capability akin to what you have in North Korea. I wouldn’t say its something we would do tomorrow and its definitely something we wouldn’t announce but it need to be clear that that is an option available to us if all else fails. *Tapper: *Let’s talk about your presidential candidacy. What do you say to people out there, Republican voters, shopping around who say I like him but I really think we need a president with executive experience? *Rubio: *Well, a couple of points: I do have a record that extends before I even got here to Washington. I’ve been here now almost 4 1/2 years but before that I was a state legislator for nine years and I was in leadership almost the entire time, including being speaker of the house where I ran the Florida house both as an institution and from a policy perspective and I’ve also served in local government so I have the unique experience of having been a local, state and federal office holder. I’ve also dedicated significant amount of time on foreign policy and on the intelligence committee issues that we just today spent an hour reading intelligence briefings and catching up on since we haven't been in D.C. for a week and haven't had access to that. So the point being, I think there are real distinctions between, for example others that have run in the past who are senators and are where I am today. *Tapper: *Since being elected to the Senate in 2010 you've been the primary sponsor on 219 items: bills, amendments, resolutions. None of them have been signed into law. How can you convince American voters, Republican voters that you can govern effectively given that legislative record? *Rubio: *You could actually say that about almost any senator that served as me over the last four years. When Harry Reid was the majority leader, the Senate virtually did nothing. In fact we’ve taken more votes over this year than we did all of the last 2 years, maybe 3 years and the point being that Harry Reid basically brought the Senate to a standstill. Not only could you not get bills voted on, you couldn't even get amendments voted on. And in fact there were Democrats running for reelection last time that couldn’t even point to their legislation they had passed and they were in the majority. We hope that’s going to change now and It’s begun to change under Senator McConnell. I would point out the fact that, for example, the veterans accountability act, which is a bill we filed, that allowed the VA to fire senior executives in the VA that weren't doing their job- that was a stand-alone bill that we got worked into as part of being on the conference that negotiated the final deal and we got that put into the VA bill. So that's an example of a legislative achievement that happened and was signed by the president, as part of a larger bill but it was a bill we filed along with Jeff Miller of Florida. *Tapper: *One bill that you are very well known for is a bill that passed the Senate but did not become law because it didn't get through the House, and that was comprehensive immigration reform. I know you’ve said, you don't think it should be comprehensive in the future it should be piece-meal, you need to convince voters -- *Rubio: *I don't think it can pass as a comprehensive piece of legislation *Tapper: *That’s the issue? *Rubio: *Yea. And I have evidence- we tried it. And in fact, if you recall during that time, I warned during that time as that process was ongoing that if we didn't do more on the security part of it, I thought it would have no chance of passage in the House. But now, I think we've proven, we’ve learned that, in fact, a massive piece of legislation especially on something like immigration just really has no realistic chance of passing. *Tapper: *There are a lot of conservative Republicans out there who, when I asked on twitter what should I ask him, they said does he still support amnesty and that is something you'll hear when you go into Iowa and New Hampshire, South Carolina. *Rubio: *Well, here's the process I support and I’ve outlined this both in my book and multiple times that I’ve been asked: I think the first thing we have to do before anything else because it's the only way you’re going to be able to do anything else, is we have to prove, not tell, prove to the American people that future illegal immigration is under control. That means securing that one sector of the border that remains unsecure. That means an entry/exit tracking system to prevent visa overstays and that means an e-verify system. If we did those things, then I believe we will have the support politically and policy wise to do very important things: first modernize our legal immigration system, make it a merit based system as opposed to simply a family based system and then we have to deal with the fact we have 12 million people in this country who are here illegally, who have been here longer than a decade or more and I’ve outlined the process for dealing with that and i think it's well established one. They come forward, they pay a fine and start paying taxes. They get a work permit and thats all they can have for a substantial period of time and after they completed this probationary period they would be allowed to apply for permanent residency just like anybody else would-- *Tapper: *a lot of Republican voters say that's amnesty. *Rubio: *well, I think its amnesty in their mind if the law is not being enforced. What people's main complaint about all this is, you're going to go ahead and legalize 10 or 12 million people, but they're never going to do the enforcement and you’re going to have another 10 or 12 people here in another ten years. That’s a legitimate concern especially given what's happened with the migratory crisis last summer. *Tapper: *I want to ask you about another issue, you are casting yourself as a candidate of a new generation, but there is an issue where you are very out of step with younger voters, even younger Republican voters. According to a pew poll, 61% of republican voters under the age of 30 I believe support same-sex marriage. In that issue, same-sex marriage, Senator, you're the candidate of yesterday. *Rubio: *Well, a couple of points: number one, that is an issue that will largely be determined at the state level since marriage laws have always been defined by the states. I’m not, for example, ever supported a federal constitutional amendment to define marriage because I believe states define marriage in their laws and if in fact people feel that way as that poll says then they can petition their state legislature to change the law. The second point I would make is, I think there's still a significant number of Americans that believe that the definition of marriage should be that of one man and one woman as it has been for thousands of years. And that continue--- *Tapper: *but they are a minority. *Rubio: *Well, they are a large minority and that’s because there are still parts of this country that believe that way but irrespective of it, we're in a republic. If you want to change the marriage laws of your state, go to your state legislature and get you legislators to change it. I don't believe the court system is the appropriate way to do it and I don’t believe Washington and the Supreme Court is the appropriate way to do that. Beyond it I would say when i talk about the future, what I’m really pointing to is not those issues necessarily but the fact we are living through a massive transition into a post-industrial era where millions of people are being left behind because America is who longer globally competitive as it once was and because they do not have the skills required to succeed in the 21st century and we have political leaders in this town and across the country, they're still whetted to an outdated 20th century higher education model that no longer works. *Tapper: *I want to ask about a man who's been described as your mentor. Jeb Bush. Is that a fair description? *Rubio: *yeah. *Tapper: *So, you have said you're not running against him. He’s a friend, you’re just simply competing for the same job. I’m wondering what that means in practical terms. Does that mean that your campaign won't do opposition research on Jeb Bush, that you won't run any negative ads against Jeb Bush? What’s the difference between that and running against a Rand Paul. *Rubio: *What it means is, there are six or seven other people in this race who i believe have a legitimate chance to be a nominee as well. We’re blessed as Republicans to have six or seven people running that going to be credible candidates. The democrats can barely come up with one. And we're going to have a robust competition in which voters in the Republican primary are going to be able to hear from all of us and decide who they want not just to lead our party but lead our country. Nothing that's going to happen over these next few months, I believe, will change my feelings towards Gov. Bush as a person or what he’s done in the past to serve our country. I just honestly believe that I have a vision for America’s future and a plan to get us there and i think that i can serve this country at this moment in history better than anyone else who’s running. [Commercial Break] *Tapper*: You mentioned when i talked about the candidate of tomorrow, you mentioned that you meant that more in terms of economic issues than you did in terms of social issues. Do you think it's a mistake, do you think it's a trap by people in the media to ask Republicans about social issues? *Rubio: *No, these are important issues. People was to know what you feel and think about them. I think they're very important issue to a lot of people in this country and I recognize that we're a country that has people on both sides of these issues that feel very strongly about it. i owe people where I stand, I’ll tell you where i stand but ultimately – and I’m not saying these aren't important issues to have the highest office in the land opine on or give opinions on—but ultimately, i want all Americans to succeed economically. Independent of what they may feel like on a social issue, I want all Americans to be more prosperous, to be able to leave their children better off than themselves, to have better jobs, to have businesses that are successful. i want America to be globally competitive so we're big enough country and a free enough country to debate these issues robustly and work through them as we have always done as a society but we still have to grow economically and be secure militarily. *Tapper: *You're a man that has two daughters. I have a daughter myself and I know that having a daughter opened my eyes to a lot of things that probably i never would have realized if i didn't have a daughter. Hillary Clinton, her historical candidacy, the historical nature of it- is going to be compelling for a lot of women. *Rubio*: right. *Tapper: *Republican women too. Who like the idea of, well, 43 men have been president, now one woman, Do you think that that's going to make it more difficult for you to win the women's vote and do you think that the Republican Party should have a woman on the ticket no matter what? *Rubio: *Well let me just tell you this…I think ultimately when it comes to being president, vice president or anything else, you want the best people there because that's going to have an impact on the future of our country and on your future irrespective of your age, your ethnicity, your gender. i would never assume that every Hispanic in America has to vote for me because I’m Hispanic, because my last name is Rubio. I have to earn their support. That may intrigue them about my candidacy, but ultimately, i have to prove i'm the right person for the job and the same is true for her or anyone else who’s running. I think the important point to make is we live in a country so vibrant that in fact you have a diverse field that includes a very legitimate candidate for president who's a woman. You have two Latinos running in the Republican side of the equation. If Dr. Carson gets in, an African American who’s running. So, and I think that’s not just a testament to the vibrancy of our country, but true to our heritage is a nation where people from everywhere have been able to achieve extraordinary things. *Tapper*: Do you pledge to support the Republican nominee whoever it is even if it is somebody that you disagree with so strongly on foreign issues like Senator Rand Paul-- just as an observation, i think you probably agree with Hillary Clinton on more matters pertaining to foreign policy than you do with Rand Paul. *Rubio: *well we'll have plenty of time for that sort of comparison. let me just say that i am confident that the Republican nominee whoever that may be and i expect it to be me and i hope it will be me and i'll work hard to make it me but i'm confident that the Republican nominee is someone who will believe that America needs to be engaged globally and that the world is a safer and better place when America is engaged and exerting global influence. i'm pretty confident that at the end of this process our nominee will be someone like that whether its because they change positions to adapt that view or because that’s who they really are. *Tapper:* Senator Marco Rubio, we will see you out there on the campaign trail. 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