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From: jeffrey E. <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2016 5:10 PM
To: Noam Chomsky
Subject: Re: Re:
we agree, that is why i try to stay away from the wo=d infinity in broad usem infinity is really on a math co=cept.
On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Noam Chomsky /a» <mailto wrote:
Apes can gesture "I'm=hungry," but their symbolic systems differ radically from human la=guage in just about
every significant respect.
There are very broad uses of language= but I think they're more confusing than helpful. There is a=biological
system: human language. The English word "languag=" (which, incidentally, doesn't translate easily, even to closely
re=ated languages) covers a lot more than that, just as "move =9D or "energy" in English cover a lot more than what
scien=ists mean by the term. Seems to me a good idea to follow scientific =ractice and avoid the broad uses, except in
informal discourse.
From: jeffrey E. [mailto:[email protected]
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2016 11:55 AM
To: Noam Chomsky < mailto >
Subject: Re:
gesturing im hungry, ? does that n=ed a language first with your broad definition?
On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 11:51 AM, Noam Chomsky >= wrote:
Don't see how it would work.=C2 We can't tell stories until language is already available.
There are, of course, speculations ab=ut how language might have developed very slowly, first with
short sentences, then longer ones, etc. One could interweave specula=ions about story telling into these. Problem with
these tales is the=usual one with speculation — one can imagine 1 million possibiliti=s. Dick Lewontin's important paper
on evolution of cognition is again relevant. And there is a more formidable probl=m: the leap to unboundedness is
saltational, by definition, so nothing is =ained by the speculations, a fact that many of those engaged in these effo=ts
seem not to have grasped.
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From: Jeffrey E. [mailto:[email protected]
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2016 11:25 AM
To: Noam Chomsky >
Subject:
how does story telling fit in to the origin of langu=ge. ? internal stories? overlay on mus=c . alarms?
how important are stories ?
please no=e
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