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Wedemo. 08/09/2019
(PROTECT SOURCE, hereinafter "II"), date of birth
, was interviewed at the
law office of her attorney,
office telephone number , in
the presence of Mr.
was born in Binghampton, New York.
II moved to South Carolina with her
mother and brothers during approximately her last year of elementary school.
II remained on until she was approximately 16 years
old. She recalled she possibly started 11th grade there prior to moving to
South Carolina with her mother and brother,
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advised that until recently, was the only individual alive
to whom • confided incidents of abuse she endured when she was a child
(detailed herein), mother also knew about what happened to II, but her
mother is deceased now. II never would have written down what happened to
her, she did not keep a formal diary, and she did not make any recordings of
any kind regarding the incidents,
advised she met JEFFREY EPSTEIN when she lived on
At one point, when II was
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approximately 13 years old (in approximately , her mother asked II
whether she would like to start babysitting. Her mother was so excited
about the prospect, and thought II would be a great babysitter. When II
agreed, her mother put an advertisement for babysitting services in the
packet she provided to renters and owners.
Soon after the ad went out in the packets, mother received a
telephone call from a man who indicated he and his wife needed a babysitter
for their child for the night. II could not recall how she traveled to the
man's residence; however, she remembered thinking she hoped it would be a
quick babysitting job so she could go back to enjoying the rest of her day
The house where II met JEFF was a villa/condo in the Sea
Pines Plantation area. She was unaware of whether he owned it or rented it;
however, he probably rented it through her mother for an unknown period of
time. The residence had a lot of books in it, and specifically, there was
one room similar to a library that included a large number of books. II
recalled knocking on the front door and the man she came to know as "JEFF"
answered the door. JEFF appeared to be alone in the home. ■ specifically
recalled wondering where his wife and child were. She never saw them.
JEFF offered • cocaine, an (alcoholic) drink, and "weed" that day. •
recalled that while she had tried each previously (cocaine once before, and
alcohol/marijuana more than once previously), she had never before used all
three at the same time. After accepting the drugs and alcohol from JEFF,
everything got "blurry" and "like a dream". II clarified that, "things
slowed" which made her think later that something additional was added to
her drink. While at the house, JEFF forced to give him oral sex. When
asked if she could clarify what she meant by "forced", ■ stated there was
no verbal threat, but that yes, JEFF physically put his hands on her. He
grabbed her hair and shoved her head "down there". She remembered seeing
his penis and vaguely thinking, "oh, that's a grown man's penis." She
stated, "I wasn't sober". She did not recall the rest of the time she was
with JEFF that day other than laying on a bed in a "fog" after the oral
sex. To her knowledge, no other individual showed up at the house while she
was there. II was not aware of how long she was at JEFF's house; however,
when she left it was still light outside and she recalled being semi-
conscious. Thinking back, II stated she was embarrassed to say that while
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she was at the house, still in a fog, she thought, "my friends are going to
love me, I found a guy with drugs." However, when she left, "I wasn't
telling anyone anything" about what happened with JEFF. JEFF did not
pay/give II any money with respect to the babysitting job she was supposed
to have done.
II initially stated she thought she had approximately four interactions
with JEFF within one span of time, which was possibly a few weeks, she
subsequently recalled possibly six initial contacts. At that point, there
was a break in time, after which she had additional interactions with JEFF.
The day after she met JEFF, at around noon, II approached her mother to
ask for food money. mother told her JEFF wanted her to come back that
day to babysit. II did not tell her mother what happened the previous day
with JEFF. II explained she was worried she would "screw up" her mother's
business, and she also recalled knowing at the time how important
babysitting job was to her mom. Her mother was proud of her. II was afraid
she would get into trouble for the things she had done the day before.
During her second interaction with JEFF, II remembered being back in
JEFF's house. He asked whether she said anything to her mother (about their
previous contact). She responded "no", and he replied "good girl". II also
remembered looking around the house and noticing there were no toys, she
remembered wondering whether JEFF really had any kids.
Thinking back to that day, II remembered feeling "heavy", the, "weirdest
feeling came over me" and, before she knew it, she saw a substance on her
knee that she thought at the time looked like "snot". JEFF wiped it off.
II was frozen, "part of me wanted to look, but I couldn't turn my head." •
stared out the window of the office as she described the events of that
day. While describing the incident, II stopped briefly and said she
remembered the pants she wore; red sweats with silver material on the
knees. The incident took place in the library/den area with all of the
books. JEFF seemed nervous that day, and again, he did not pay her for the
scheduled babysitting job. II recalled she left the house quickly that day.
II could not recall how she first came to know the man's name was JEFF;
she just always knew that was his name. He may have told her his name, or
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her mother may have said his name on any number of occasions back then. Her
mother may have also learned his name if he filled out any real estate
paperwork. With respect to the last name EPSTEIN, II possibly heard JEFF's
last name during the time she had contact with him. Her friend,
, also mentioned the name JEFF EPSTEIN to her recently, and she recalled
hearing the name EPSTEIN on a movie staring Barbra Streisand and Nick Nolte
some time ago.
A few months ago, II told her close friend, (whom she has
known since both lived on some of the details regarding
her contact with JEFF when she was young. II recalled she made a statement
to regarding JEFF, and responded with words to the effect of,
"you told me that when we were kids". At that point, II vaguely recalled
talking to when they were young about the incidents that occurred
between herself and JEFF.
Not long after, sent II a text asking, "do these names sound
familiar?" then sent a text to II containing the name "JEFFREY
EPSTEIN", as well as other names (II did not feel comfortable providing the
additional names at the time of the interview.) Soon thereafter,
sent a photograph to II via text message, and asked something to the effect
of whether II knew the name of the person in the photo and, "is this the
guy?". II advised looking at the person in the photograph, "took me back",
and she had a fleeting thought that he reminded her of Lurch from the Adams'
Family. told II to turn on the news, which II stated she does not
generally watch. JEFFREY EPSTEIN's face was one, "I couldn't forget."
then told II about a sex ring and indicated that JEFFREY EPSTEIN got
into trouble years ago, but received a slap on the wrist regarding something
that happened in Florida.
later viewed the image sent her with her friend and neighbor,
. II told , "That is the person who has caused me great
harm and affected my entire life. He's a nightmare." • advised the
photograph sent her was still saved in her cell phone messages.
Upon request by the Agents, II accessed the image, and before she showed the
picture to the interviewing Agents, II asked whether she could crop the
photograph to include only the man she was referring to (essentially
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cropping out one or more individuals also included in the picture).
attorney, Mr. offhandedly mentioned the word "President" while
looking at the image on cell phone. The Agents asked whether II would
be comfortable explaining why she wanted to crop the photograph. When II
hesitated, attorney advised II was concerned about implicating
additional individuals, and specifically any that were well known, due to
fear of retaliation. The Agents advised II she could crop the image to show
only what she felt comfortable with if she felt it was
necessary. [Administrative Note: II agreed to allow the Agents to take a
photograph of the cropped image (attached electronically as a 1A
attachment). Of note, the particular image sent to her by was
recognized by Agents as a widely distributed photograph of JEFFREY EPSTEIN
and current United States President DONALD TRUMP. The cropped image II
provided to the Agents only included JEFFREY EPSTEIN.] II advised the
Agents, she was 100% positive the man in the photograph was "JEFF", the man
[detailed above] who she initially believed she was hired to babysit for,
and who sexually abused II multiple times beginning when she was
approximately 13 years old on
While observing the image in the presence of the Agents, II advised she
had not seen JEFF in a long time, and that he, "looked a little older" in
the photograph than she remembered him. II advised, "the person wasn't that
unattractive back then." With respect to the other individual she cropped
out of the image, II advised they were someone she had met (no further
information provided).
II advised she learned JEFF took Polaroid photographs of her engaged in
sexual activity possibly during her first interaction with him, and
definitely during her third interaction. II stated that during her third
interaction with JEFF, which happened within a few days of the second
incident, II opened a drawer in the house and observed, "a lot of photos".
She saw photographs of herself, but was not sure whether all of the photos
included in the drawer were of her. She wanted to take all of the
photographs to try to piece together the holes in her memory as to what had
happened during her previous interactions with JEFF and also because she was
embarrassed that she was naked in the pictures; however, JEFF caught II
looking at the pictures. He became very angry when he caught her. When
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asked what JEFF did when he caught her looking at the pictures, II stated,
"He raped me." JEFF bent her over and raped her, and it, "wasn't vaginal".
JEFF called II a, "stupid bitch" and stated that, "being nosy isn't good for
you." He told her she was going to get herself in trouble and, "now [she]
owed [him]." II advised that was the point when the threats started, "that
was when he turned." II recalled JEFF also said some words to her in a
different language that she did not understand.
When JEFF got nervous he sometimes sounded different; he sounded like he
had a lisp. He did not have a thick New York accent. II recalled JEFF had
an eye tooth that looked like a "snaggle tooth" at that time. She recalled
he, "was not terribly ugly." He always dressed well and wore "cardboard
shirts" and penny loafers. He had a habit of changing the pennies in his
loafers frequently, and they were always brand new pennies. stated she
had only seen children's penises at that point in her life. She did not
recall any additional abnormalities with respect to JEFF's body; however, II
qualified her statement that most of the time, JEFF abused her from behind.
She did recall that with respect to two additional people who abused her,
one was not circumcised. II is aware of the uncircumcised man's identity;
however, she was not comfortable providing it at the time of the interview.
II reiterated that during her third interaction with JEFF, he started out
behind her, "raping [her] every way possible: orally, vaginally...". At that
point in her life, • had large breasts, which made her very uncomfortable.
She would beg to keep her shirt on during her interactions with JEFF. He
made fun of her breasts; sometimes saying nice things, and other times
telling her he knew why she was disgusted with her breasts.
JEFF used objects to sexually assault II; she specifically recalled that
on at least one occasion, he used beer bottles and a golf club handle to
rape her anally and vaginally. II also remembered JEFF attempting to fit
his entire hand in her mouth. At some point, JEFF told her, "If you don't
want this to happen to you, you need to go find me friends." On
approximately the second interaction, JEFF asked II, "do you have any
friends who are pretty?" II recalled thinking JEFF did not think she was
attractive back then.
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There were times while JEFF was raping II that he pulled her hair,
covered her mouth and nose at the same time, and put his hand on her
throat. • thought the act of placing his hand on her throat was more of a
threat than actually attempting to strangle her. She did not recall him
squeezing her throat. II did not recall JEFF binding her body during the
sexual assaults. He never "full-on" punched her; however, he squeezed her
bottom and breasts, and would "yank" her nipples to the point the actions
were "very painful". II stated, "I would have given anything for him to
have given me a cocktail again. It would have been nice to not have been
aware." Believing she would continue to be raped and sexually assaulted by
JEFF, II gave in at some point and told him, "yes, I'll find some friends."
JEFF wanted, "young fresh meat girls. Virgins." He told II, "Don't bring
me any niggers." II, "never, ever brought any friends." At this point in
the interview, attorney, Barry , Esq. advised the
following: "At Epstein's request, she (U), at times met people on the
beach and may have told them something to the effect of, 'if you want to
party, go to Epstein's.'" Following statement, U shook her
shoulders and head in the affirmative. II clarified that after what JEFF
had done to her, she did not want it [the rapes and sexual assaults] to be
repeated, and she decided finding other girls for him, strangers she found
in town, might spare her more abuse.
With respect to her adult life, II advised JEFF's abuse and the abuse she
endured by others associated with him caused her to "shut down". She became
fearful after being threatened, "[her] whole life." She stated, "I haven't
said anything yet, so imagine once I do." II expressed deep concern over
being one of the first victims to come forward and any ramifications she may
suffer due to it.
II indicated that due to the time that had elapsed since the events
involving JEFF occurred (over 30 years), she had difficulty remembering
exactly when some of the interactions occurred, and in what order). II
recalled that during her fourth or fifth interaction with JEFF, there were
two other men in the house as well. II advised she may know the name of one
man, but she did not feel comfortable providing it at this time. JEFF was
introducing her to, "these pigs." JEFF bragged and showed the men, "the
things he'd done to [her]." JEFF made a statement to the effect of, "This
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is why fresh meat is good, you can do whatever you want." The men
masturbated as JEFF sexually assaulted II. During that interaction JEFF
penetrated her vaginally with both objects and his penis. She remembered
that at some point, she was alone with the two men after JEFF, "did his sick
shit" and excused himself because he was planning for other girls to show up
at the house. II described the two men as, "fat and disgusting". Both were
older than JEFF. Both of the men had southern accents. II recalled JEFF's
"big thing" was "vaginal fresh meat".
[Administrative note: When the Agents began to ask questions regarding
whether the two men at the house participated in sexually assaulting II, II
became very emotional and advised she could not continue and needed to take
a break that day. The interview ended with the plan to continue with a
followup interview in the near future.]
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