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*Main Topics*: Lieberman Interviews, Economic Woes on Wall St. and Prices,
Graham Interview
*Summary of Shift:* Virtually all news networks began today with various
signs of rising economic problems. Along with continued coverage of the
Freddie and Fanny mortgage bank bailout, news about local banks running out
of capital, the Dow and S&P trading low, soaring gas prices, and a steep
increase in the consumer price index dominated the morning. Several experts
were brought on air to discuss a coming recession with global repercussions.
In an apparent policy break, the White House has indicated it will send an
envoy to meet with Iranian officials. Race politics were briefly discussed
in light of a New York Times poll showing only 5% of African Americans with
a positive view of McCain, and with the context of McCain speaking at the
NAACP today. Finally, Congress was quick to override President Bush's veto
of the Medicare bill passed last
week.
Highlights:
1. Lieberman Media Blitz
a. MSNBC: Joe Lieberman Appears on Morning Joe to discuss Mortgage
Banks, War Option Against Iran
b. Lieberman refuses to admit that Afghanistan is the Central Front in
the War on Terror
c. Lieberman comments on Obama's flip flops on Iraq and how John McCain
can win in Iraq and Afghanistan
2. NBC: Graham, Biden Interviewed; Graham Emphasizes McCain Foreign
Policy, Surge
3. CNN: The McCain Family Beer Business May Cause Conflicts of Interest
if John McCain becomes President
4. NBC: Body Language Experts Analyze John and Cindy McCain, note
embarrassment and discomfort
5. FNC: New Jib Jab Video Depicts McCain in Military Garb and Collapsing
in a Retirement Home
Clips:
Highlight #1
*Joe Lieberman Interviewed, Presses War Option With Iran, Notes Position on
Mortgage Banks* (MSNBC 07-16-08)
JOE SCARBOROUGH: How difficult has it been for you to work with the
Democratic Party, to feel a kinship with the Democratic Party and get to the
point where you are right now where some Democrats say 'Oh he's not loyal
and if he goes to the Republican National Convention, he's a traitor.' Just
personally, not politically, does that hurt? […]
JOE LIEBERMAN: Sure it does all the conflict of the 2006 Democratic primary
campaign were basically, people were against me because of one issue. I
understand its Iraq, it's important, its not the way the party has been most
of the time. But my relations with my colleagues in the Democratic caucus
are pretty good. We work together, we get things done. I work with people on
all sides ideologically and life goes on. But I feel I was reelected as an
Independent. I made two big promises to people in Connecticut. I try to what
was right and best for them and I'd always work across party lines to get
things done for them and for the country and that's what I'm trying to do
and I'm going to let the
politics take care of itself.
[...]
MIKE BARNICLE: Do you, Senator, ever feel resentment towards people in your
own party who you stood with them in many fights across the past couple of
decades and now they walk away from you in 2006. What has happened to you in
the Senate caucus? Did you have stronger friendships with say a Chris Dodd
before 2006? Do you go out to dinner with them?
LIEBERMAN: You know I have a good record on the environment, but this isn't
an alge tide. Every expericne you have - and that was a disappointing one in
06 - is part of me. Chris Dodd, Joe Biden, they have been friends for
decades and they remain good friends. My argument is really not just to the
Democratic Party but both parties. They may be ferocious on one or two
parties but won't work with anybody they happen to disagree with. Frankly
this is part of one or two issues. Frankly is part of the reason I'm
supporting John McCain. A guy that has consistently said Ted Kennedy I don't
agree with you on nine out of ten issues but I agree with this one and I'm
going to work with you to get it. We've got to get back to particularly on
the crisis we have and particularly right here at home with the economy. So,
to me, the parties have gone off the track. And as a result, the country has
gone off the track. And I think that's a big part of why the American people
have lost confidence in their government and we've got to get it back.
HAROLD FORD: We're learning this morning that some in the Senate, including
Senator Dodd, Senator Shelby, have concerns about the so-called bailout of
Freddie and Fanny that the assistance, government assistance. And two, what
are Senator McCain's thoughts on that? It's good to see you. You know I
don't agree with your choice of President but you know you're my friend. So
your thoughts on both of those issues?
LIEBERMAN: It's mutual my friend, you're the kind of Democrat we need more
of. So we may not agree on a choice of a candidate but we're always going to
work together because we know we agree on more things than we don't. My
understanding of Freddie and Fanny Mac is that they're basically solid. But
these days, sometimes the reality can be overtaken by the psychology. And
the psychology here is very bad. And there's a danger of a panic. So I think
the moves that Secretary Paulson and Chairman Bernanke have recommended to
strengthen Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are critically important. These people
hold trillions of dollars in mortgages. If the panic continues and really
takes them down, whether it's justified or not, it'll have a big affect on
mortgage rates, probably not only on our economy but the global economy.
Now, look, Chris Dodd and Rick Shelby, they may have some specific concerns
about parts of the proposals. But I don't think either one of them is going
to stop us from reassuring the public that we're going to stand behind these
two critically important institutions. And my understanding is that's
generally the position that John McCain has taken. We can't afford the
psychology to become panic and to lead to, at worst, a collapse of Fannie
Mae or Freddie Mac. Can't let it happen.
SCARBOROUGH: Mike?
BARNICLE: Senator, then, let me ask you -- Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, I mean,
they're basically tied to the government at one level. And yet they're going
to be bailed out by taxpayers. You're going to be sitting there looking at
whatever proposal comes before you. And they're both entities where the
heads of these entities and many people up top of these entities are making
millions and millions of dollars in salary each year.
So how is it that we take our public money, taxpayer money, and bail out
basically something that has something to do with government? I mean, why
aren't these people being paid like a GS-13 salary, like a Yosemite Park
park ranger? What's going on here?
LIEBERMAN: You know, I love that -- you know, I was just thinking as you
were talking, Mike, you're the voice of probably a guy in South Boston who's
name is Freddie Mac...
BRZEZINSKI: Yes, so true.
LIEBERMAN: about Freddie Mac. Right. So, look, I think what we're talking
about here is guarantees in case these two entities fall. But you're right,
if the guarantees have to be implemented and its taxpayer dollars in there,
that's got to come with conditions.
And I don't know that we can pay them like we pay a normal civil servant
because they these are big trillion-dollar operations. But we're going to
have a right on behalf of the taxpayers to go in there and set some limits
on the salaries the that executives of these two institutions have. I've
looked at them and they're outrageous.
FORD: Can I ask one last question senator -- with Ambassador Holbrook having
been here this morning. He talked about Iran. He talked about your
candidate's position being to the right of that of President Bush; that if
indeed that McCain would be willing to go to war with Iran and he's willing
to remove Russia from the G-8.
What are your thoughts? And how does the campaign answer those assertions?
LIEBERMAN: Well, look, *John McCain is a great internationalist*, not just
on -- not as a foreign policy but on trade. Incidentally, if some of the
proposals that Senator Obama has made for not supporting trade agreements or
going back to protectionism ever were passed, I'm afraid it would send this
economy of ours into a deep recession, maybe even worse. *Because exports
today are probably the most significant growth factor in our economy. But,
look, John McCain is always going to know when to be tough and when to be
accommodating. And I think he has a very clear opinion which I share, that
when you're dealing with a fanatical regime like the one in Tehran, that
leads the masses in shouting death to America and talks about blowing up
Israel, that the only way you're going to get them to the peace table is to
make sure that they know that if they're not reasonable, they're going to
suffer. And I think that's the way we get to peace. The best way to achieve
peace sometimes is to prepare for war.* But John McCain will secure a
peaceful world as president, because he's strong.
MIKA BRZEZINSKI: OK, Senator JoeLieberman. Always good to see you.
LIEBERMAN: Good to see you again.
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*Lieberman Refuses to Admit that Afghanistan is the Central Front in the War
on Terror* (CNN 07/16/08 08:29am)
JOHN ROBERTS: Where is the central front in the war on terror?
JOE LIEBERMAN: Well I think the enemy ought to have a lot to say about that.
The fact is that *Osama Bin Laden has made it very clear that the central
front in the war on terrorism is in Iraq. That's why it's so critical that
we are doing so much better thanks in a large part to John McCain's guts* in
saying that what the Bush administration was doing there wasn't working, and
that led to the surge which is now working.
ROBERTS: So if in fact Iraq is still the central front in the war on terror
how do you explain that Afghanistan has become deadlier for US forces, and
now even John McCain says 3 extra brigades are urgently needed to fight the
war in Afghanistan?
LIEBERMAN: Well the two are not inconsistent. Well I think about
WWII. Senator
Obama has taken a position that we have to lose, that we have to retreat and
lose in Iraq to win in Afghanistan. We don't have that luxury; we have to
win in both places. […] *What's worked in Iraq, which is the surge that John
McCain advocated so courageously, shows us the way to win now in
Afghanistan.* […] We've got to respond, like Senator McCain said yesterday,
with the same kind of comprehensive military, economic, diplomatic surge.
[…]
ROBERTS: But you're resisting this notion that the central front in the war
on terror has shifted to Afghanistan?
LIEBERMAN: *I am. But I'll say that the active battlefront may be shifting
to Afghanistan because we've succeeded in Iraq. […]*
ROBERTS: You know what critics are saying, critics are saying that the
central front on terror has not shifted to Afghanistan because of success in
Iraq. Critics are saying that because President Bush went into Iraq, he took
his eye off the ball in Afghanistan and allowed the Taliban, allowed Al
Qaeda to regroup.
LEIBERMAN: […] *Look you can argue whether it was right to go into Iraq or
not. […] But we're there, and once we are there we've got to win it. And
that's what John McCain understood.* […]
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*Lieberman Comments on Obama's Flip Flops on Iraq and How John McCain Can
Win in Iraq and Afghanistan* (FNC 07/16/08 08:42am)
STEVE DOOCY: […] Have you taken a pad and pencil and figured out how many
times Barack Obama has actually flip-flopped on Iraq?
JOE LIEBERMAN: it's a real serious question because it seems to me this is
not just kind of normal political flip-flop back and forth, but really the
judgment here is who do we want of these two people, John McCain or Barack
Obama, to be president, to be commander in chief, and to shade your position
based on the time, apparently of the campaign. […] But now I think he got
such a reaction against that from moveon.org and a lot of people in the
antiwar left of the democratic party that yesterday the speech he gave
basically said the same thing, and though I respect him for coming back
finally to where he was and what I think he believes, I think it's terribly
wrong because it doesn't acknowledge, one, that we're winning, and we are
withdrawing troops now based on our success there.
DOOCY: absolutely.
LIEBERMAN: But, two, it's just not what we want in a president. He's going
to Iraq, but he's already decided his position. He's not going to listen to
Petraeus or our troops, he's not going to listen to his own eyes with what
he sees there, and I think that's not the kind of leadership we need in the
oval office know.
DAVE BRIGGS: I don't know if you've read this quote from Senator Joe Biden,
but I want to get your reaction to it. It reads "if John McCain wants to
know where the bad guys live, come back with me to Afghanistan. We know
where they reside, and it's not in Iraq". Your reaction to this quote from
Senator Joe Biden?
LIEBERMAN*: I love Joe Biden, he's a really good friend, but absolutely
wrong, and really Joe Biden should retract that comment o of respect. The
troops have died there fighting the bad guys. Osama Bin Laden said that Iraq
is the central battlefront in the war against terror.* […] *We've got Al
Qaeda on the run, and we're about to score a great victory. In fact, that's
part of why the action is now moving to Afghanistan. And look, if anybody
knows how to within the war in Afghanistan, it's John McCain* advised by
generals like David Petraeus. […] Obama seems to be saying you've got to
lose the war in Iraq to win the war in Afghanistan, but you can't choose
your battlefronts here. This is as if Roosevelt said during world war II,
all we can do is try to defeat the Japanese and Asia pacific region, we're
going to forget about the Nazis in Europe. You can't do that then, and you
can't do it today.
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Highlight #2
*Matt Lauer Interviews Graham, Biden; Graham Emphasizes McCain Surge
Position* (NBC 07/16/08)
MATT LAUER: What is the most glaring difference in the approach these two
men will take?
LINDSEY GRAHAM: Well I think it is to how the war is to be prosecuted. When
Senator Obama says Iraq is not a central battle in the war on terror. That
is a huge difference between him and Senator McCain. General Petraeus said
in April that for al-Qaeda, Iraq is their central battle front. If we lost
in Iraq, al-Qaeda would claim victory, Iran would have be emboldened, so the
idea that a failed state in Iraq would not effect the war in terror in
general is a huge difference. *John understood that is why he risked his
career on the surge to make sure we wouldn't lose.*
BIDEN: […] This is about being commander in chief of US interests around the
world.
[…]
LAUER: What now is the definition of victory? Is it an end of violence, the
insurgency, is it a victory on the war on terror? What do you see as
victory?
GRAHAM: Victory would be a stable government that we left behind. *History
will not judge us not by when we left Iraq, but what we left behind.* From
the national security perspective, from an American view, victory is a
stable functioning government where the people in Iraq live under the rule
of law, al-Qaeda has no safe haven and they contain Iranian ambitions in the
region. A stable, functioning government allied with us on the war on
terror- *the biggest victory coming out of the war in Iraq is that Muslims,
with out help, took up arms against al-Qaeda sympathizers. Any time a Muslim
fight al-Qaeda agents and sympathizers, we're safer. That's what happened
from the surge.*
[…]
GRAHAM: We've already had meetings with Iranian officials. Ambassador
Crocker met with them. I want to meet*, I don't want my President to sit
down with Ahmadinejad without any preconditions and elevate him. That's
terrible.*
<https://issuealliance.box.net/shared/rrhdein0gg>
Highlight #3
*The McCain Family Beer Business may Cause Conflicts in Interest if John
McCain Becomes Presiden*t (CNN 07/16/08 07:32am)
JOHN ROBERTS: Despite John McCain's high profile job and the even higher
profile job that he is after*, Cindy McCain will also be the big bread
winner in that family.* David Mattingly explains why her beer business
could be a problem for her husband if he's elected.
DAVID MATTINGLY: Fair to say that Cindy McCain is not only the wife to
Senator John McCain; she's also his meal ticket. Her reported 2006 income
of more than 6 million dollars *exceeded her husband's earnings 16 times
over. That money pays for a wealthy lifestyle of high-end condos, an
Arizona ranch, flying in a corporate jet, and more. *
KEN VOGEL: He wouldn't be able to afford that if it weren't for her.
*Politically,
he's in Congress arguably because her company and her well funded his first
congressional campaign and has certainly been helpful in subsidizing his
presidential campaign.*
MATTINGLY: It's a lifestyle built on beer. Cindy McCain is the chairman of
one of the largest Anheuser Busch distributors in the country. A company
founded by her father with a value estimated at over $100 million. In
congress Senator McCain has been able to avoid a conflict of interest by
staying out of the family business and recuse himself from beer related
issues. *But critics of that industry doubt that a President McCain would
be able to stay so hands off.*
BRUCE LIVINGSTON: It would not be possible. The Hensley Corporation, which
Cindy McCain is an owner of, has lobbied ten times in the last 8 years on
various issues that have gone to congress and executive branch agencies.
MATTINGLY: As President, McCain would run a mammoth bureaucracy with
regulatory controls over alcohol sales, distribution and consumption. The
next administration would probably have to deal with issues of beer taxes,
labeling, maybe even the politically sensitive merger just announced
involving the giant Anheuser Busch. These are all issues that could cause
a conflict because they could have an impact on the McCain family bottom
line. Though she does not run the day to day operations, Cindy McCain's
Hensley and company website links to a news letter calling for a roll back
in the federal beer tax. And this 2005 letter posted on the Internet by the
Los Angeles Times, shows company executive Andrew McCain, yes that is the
Senator's son, lobbying against a federal beer-labeling proposal.
ROBERTS: Hensley and company sold more than 23 million cases of
Anheuser-Busch beer last year. Making it the third largest Anheuser
distributer in the United States. We should also mention that Hensley also
distributes Stella Artois, Bass and other beers produced by InBev, which
recently bought Anheuser-Busch.<https://issuealliance.box.net/shared/kevpav34k0>
Highlight #4
*Body Language Expert Dissects John And Cindy McCain* (NBC 07/16/08)
ANN CURRY: There's a photo of him covering his eyes. Now it looks like he's
embarrassed, something just happened.
JOE NAVARRO, BODY LANGUAGE EXPERT: And we do that all the time. One of the
things we do is when he does it, Tiger Woods does it, I do it, you do it,
you see here something or you do something that's just not right and you
cover your eyes. This is so powerful that even children who are born blind,
when they don't hear things that they don't like, they will actually
sometimes cover their eyes.
CURRY: So your saying there's something in our brain. We're born with- these
are not learned cues all of them. Your saying this is-fundamental. Why?
NAVARRO: Exactly. Millions of years of- I think it's part of the way the
brain protects itself. This is part of our paleocircuitry that protects us
from things that may harm us. *So we block things we don't like.*
CURRY: Embarrassment included.
NAVARRO: *Embarrassment included.*
CURRY: In an interview I did with Cindy McCain, John's wife, you say I
apparently asked her an uncomfortable question. Well actually-
NAVARRO: This is with her husband. What you see here-
CURRY: No, actually this one. I'm sorry. So what is it about her
physicality?
NAVARRO: Well you see her. *She closed her eyes and she delayed. She closed
her eyes and delayed opening her eyes which really means she didn't like the
question you asked and I believe it was a question about her husband's
age.*And not that there's anything wrong with that. Maybe it's a
question that's
too often asked of her. *She definitely didn't like it.*
CURRY: Now to the photograph of the two of them together. Your saying
compared to that you can see the photograph that's she much more relaxed.
Right and one of the ways we know it's a true smile is the facial muscles
are relaxed but notice how the corners tend to go up above the ear not
towards the ear. A fake smile what we do in public is towards the ear, a
true smile above. <https://issuealliance.box.net/shared/cd1rbi1gko>
Highlight #5
*New Jib Jab Video Depicts McCain in Military Garb and Collapsing in a
Retirement Home* (FNC 07/16/08 07:56am)
BUSH: "Come gather round Dick, Condi, Scooter and Rove, it's time to get
packin' , we must hit the road, but there's war and recession and bad
mortgage loans"
CHENEY: "and our legacy needs savin'."
BUSH:"So forget he's a jacka** who's liberally prone." […]
MCCAIN: "Gather Conservatives, lend me a hand, unless you want this liberal
wuss in command. I spent years in a rat hole in North Vietnam. Now the
Jihad needs containing! So forget my skin cancer and swollen left gland."
[…]
<https://issuealliance.box.net/shared/k80wp3uw40>
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