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From: Lawrence Krauss Sat ,
To: "jeffrey E." <[email protected].>
Subject: Fwd: Advice re Title IX investigation.
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2018 14:45:48 +0000
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I think this makes some sense.. thoughts? (other than of course I am wrong 100% of the time.:))
I was planning to make this first meeting an information session where I could ask questions, but not necessarily respond at that time to the
allegations.
Lawrence M. Krauss
Director, The Origins Project at ASU
Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative
Foundation Professor
School of Earth & Space EVIOnti011anti Physics Department
AtIZOIla State University, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404
Research Office: Assistant (Jessica):
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From: Justin Dillon
Subject: Re: Advice re Title IX investigation.
Date: April 5, 2018 at 5:59:35 AM PDT
To: Lawrence Krauss ..c >
Lawrence,
I have removed Nancy from this email—I think it is better if it's just you and me, for a whole bunch of reasons. I'm happy to include her in the
substance of the defense as we dig in, but I don't think she should be on our day to day emalls. It's ultimately your call, of course.
Here's my main question about the 10th: is it supposed to be an interview of you, in order to get your responses to their questions? That's what Erin's
email makes it sound like (she calls it an "Interview"). If so, then we simply cannot do It on the 10th. We need much more time to dig in to this, and you
only get one bite at the apple here. I know changing your flight would be a pain, but it's not that much money and is worth it in the long term.
If, instead, this meeting Is simply for you to obtain additional information about some of the allegations, and not to respond to anything, then that's fine
—I can Join by phone, and we can listen.
But we need to clarify this ASAP—It will piss off Erin if she thinks it's an interview and you walk in with a lawyer unwilling to answer questions.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Justin
Justin Dillon
KaiserDillon PLLC
1401 K Street NW
Suite 600
Washington, DC 20005
www.kaiserdillon.com
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From: Lawrence Krauss
Date: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 at 7:02 PM
To: Justin Dillon •:1 >
Cc: Nancy Portland Lawrence Krauss <
Subject: Re: Advice re Title IX investigation.
Thanks. Enjoy your week! Hope you are somewhere fun!
The meeting in Phoenix is the 10th, not the 11th. As I specifically set up that date with them because it is a day I plan to be in Phoenix (and the flights
there cost me while I am on leave) I am inclined to attend the meeting on the 10th and treat It as an information session. What I would Ilke, If it is
possible, is to spend an hour of so on the phone or on Skype with you on the 9th, so you can give me directions on what to say and not say.. questions
to ask, information to glean, etc.. and I will collect the information, and (unless they say, 'oh lets Just forget the whole thing.. there is nothing her to
worry about".. :) ) I indicate to them that a follow up meeting along with my advisor will probably be required a few weeks after that. Sound good? Do
you have any time on the 9th (or 8th if you want, or early on the 10th if absolutely necessary)?
Lawrence
Lawrence M. Krauss
Director, The Origins Project at ASU
Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative
Foundation Professor
School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department
Arizona State University, P.O. Box871404, Tempe, AZ S5287-1404
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On Apr 4, 2018, at 1:40 PM, Justin Dillon a> wrote:
Thanks, Lawrence. I'm delighted to be able to work with you on this. I'm out of town this week for my kids' spring break, and I also can't do the
meeting on the 11th-1'm booked solid that day. So we will need to reschedule that. The easiest thing to do might be for you to email whoever you've
been dealing with there, tell them you've hired me to advise you, and tell them that you will need to reschedule the meeting a week or two out so
that your new advisor has time to get up to speed. Let me know If that all makes sense. Thanks, and I look forward to working with you!
Justin Dillon
KaiserDillon PLLC
1401K St. NW
Suite 600
Washington, DC 20005
From: Lawrence Krauss a
Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 20184:15:16 PM
To: Justin Dillon
Cc: Nancy Portland; Lawrence Krauss
Subject: Re: Advice re Title IX investigation.
Hi.. paperwork done and retainer sent. Here is correspondence from OEI at ASU for both investigations being discussed on Tues.
Please let me know a good time to talk.
Lawrence
1. australia investigation:
From: Carla Mahnke
Subject: RE: Availability for meeting
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Date: March 29, 2018 at 3:14:21 PM PDT
To: Lawrence Krauss a
Hi Dr. Krauss,
In terms of my investigation, the information below is what I am planning to cover during our in•person meeting. During our in•person
meeting I will share with you the context of this information, have some questions for you, and of course will provide you with an
opportunity to respond or provide any new information. If after our in-person meeting you have additional questions, or would like to
provide other inforrnation, you are welcome to do so.
I will keep you informed of the status of the investigation and as I near the conclusion you will have a final opportunity to respond.
Thanks!
Carla
Begin forwarded message:
From: Carla Mahnke
Subject: RE: Availability for meeting
Date: March 29, 2018 at 12:40:32 PM PDT
To: Lawrence Krauss a
Hi Dr. Krauss,
I wanted to make sure I addressed the other portion of your question below. During our meeting I plan to discuss new information that
my office has received related to the allegation of non-consensual physical contact at the 2016 Australian Skeptics Convention. The new
information includes a conversation I have had with a witness, this person was named in the BuzzFeed article, and a conversation with
the anonymous female who experienced the nonconsensual physical contact.
I look forward to meeting with you again to discuss this further.
Thanks!
Carla
Carla Mahnke, Ed.D.
Sr EEO Continent
Office of Equily and inclusion
Arizona State University
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Tempe. AZ W2137-1304
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1. MU investigation of BuzzFeed stuff, plus whatever other complaints they have received since.
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From: Erin Ellison a>
Subject: RE: Allegations
Date: April 3, 2018 at 4:55:16 PM PDT
To: Lawrence Krauss
Cc: Erin Ellison a
Good evening Dr. Krauss:
The allegations outlined in my email to you have all been reported directly to the University.
The transcription of your discussion with Naimah Saadiq in February is not yet available, but should be by the end of this week or early next week.
Regards,
Erin R. Ellison, J.D.
Director, Office of Equity & Inclusion
Arizona State University
(480)965-5057
(480) 237-7998 (eFax)
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From: Lawrence Krauss < >
Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 10:18 AM
To: Erin Ellison
Cc: Lawrence Krauss
Subject: Re: Allegations
Good morning Erin. Thank you for your note. I have a few questions.
I still haven't received the transcript of my last meeting with Naimah, which she indicated in her email of Feb 20th she would provide
me at the time. Has this been sent?
In order to better prepare for our meeting, I have a few questions about what you wrote. I am surprised by the list you provided, and
confused by the statement that the allegations 'known at this time include but are not limited to' just before you provide a list of general
allegations. Does this mean that these are the ones you are considering? Also, do these comprise complaints made to the University or
also allegations that appeared online? If a combination, could you describe which is which? What is the policy regarding treating online
allegations, tweets etc? Is there a policy regarding the University's jurisdiction in responding to such and what my rights are with
regard to such?
Thanks a lot for your attention in this matter.
Lawrence
On Apr 2, 2018, at 4:08 PM, Erin Ellison wrote:
Good morning Or. Krauss:
The purpose of this email is to provide you with notification of the specific allegations that have been raised against you during OEI's
investigation. The allegations that are known at this time include but are not limited to:
1. Unwelcome comments of a sexual nature
2. Gender based comments
3. Conduct of a sexual nature including, but not limited to, touching
4. Unprofessional interactions with students, employees of the Origins Project, and attendees at various conferences
5. Failure to report after an employee expressed concern about a donor
We will discuss these allegations during your interview on April 10, 2018.
Regards,
Erin R. Ellison, J.D.
Director, Office of Equity & Inclusion
Arizona State University
(480) 965.5057
(480)237-7998 (eras)
Lawrence M. Krauss
Director, The Origins Project at ASU
Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative
Foundation Professor
School of Earth & Space Exploration anti Physics Department
Arizona State University, P.O.80x871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404
Research Office- Assistant (Jessica):
Origins Office (Cynthia):
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On Apr 4, 2018, at 11:18 AM, Lawrence Krauss wrote:
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I have decided to retain you in advance of Tuesday, as I believe I can benefit from your advice on how to respond at that time to what I am
confronted with at the meeting. I am filling out the paperwork and sending it to your office today. Once you have been retained, I will send you the
most recent 3 brief emails from the Office of Equity and inclusion at MU to bring you up to date, and then hopefully we can have a discussion either
friday or monday or on the weekend to help me prepare.
Lawrence
Lawrence M. Krauss
Director, The Origins Project at ASU
Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative
Foundation Professor
School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department
Arizona State University, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404
Research Office- Assistant (Jessica):
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On Mar 29, 2018, at 10:00 AM, Justin Dillon < > wrote:
Sounds good. Good luck!
Justin Dillon
KaiserDillon PLLC
1401 K Street NW
Suite 600
Washington, DC 20005
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From: Lawrence Krauss •ca>
Date: Thursday, March 29, 2018 at 12:51 PM
To: Justin Dillon ‹ >
Subject: Re: Advice re Title IX investigation.
Hi Justin. Just an FYI.. I am having a discussion with the ASU investigators April 10. I will have a better idea then, I think, of, what the situation Is
and what other steps may be necessary.
LMK
Lawrence M. Krauss
Director, The Origins Project at MU
Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative
Foundation Professor
School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department
Arizona State University, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404
Research Office: Assistant (Jessica):
Origins Office (Cynthia):
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On Mar 23, 2018, at 1:03 PM, Justin Dillon < > wrote:
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No problem at all.
Justin Dillon
KaiserDillon PLLC
1401 K St. NW
Suite 600
Washington, DC 20005
From: Lawrence Krauss a
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 3:59:31PM
To: Justin Dillon
Subject: Re: Advice re Title IX investigation.
Thanks again. much appreciated..
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Director, The Origins Project at MU
Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative
Foundation Professor
School or Earth & Space Exploration and Physks Department
Arizona Slate University, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404
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On Mar 22, 2018, at 5:02 PM, Justin Dillon <Ma wrote:
Thanks, Lawrence. I appreciate that. And truly, whether you hire or me or someone else, you Just have to ignore the advice of people who tell
you to "play ball" and not have a lawyer surface. Many things are debatable in the Title IX world; this is not one of them, I promise you—
especially given the somewhat complex constitutional issues at play in your case.
And I am a man of my word, so I will call Jeffrey as planned at 11 on Saturday unless you insist otherwise. I understand that this is an extremely
stressful time, that you're getting a lot of advice from many different quarters, and that having someone you trust talk to the person you're
thinking of hiring can be very important.
Justin
Justin Dillon
KaiserDillon PLLC
1401 K Street NW
Suite 600
Washington, DC 20005
www.lcaiserdillon.com
From: Lawrence Krauss
Date: Thursday, March 22, 2018 at 5:31PM
To: Justin Dillon
Cc: Lawrence Krauss
Subject: Re: Advice re Title IX investigation.
have thought about this.. I don't want you to have to take more of your time talking to him.. Sorry to have asked.. It wasn't really fair. You have
spent enough time on this. I am going to assess this all and make a decision in the coming days. I do appreciate all your advice thus far, and I
am prepared to move forward at this moment, but want to think about it carefully before committing.
LMK
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Lawrence M. Krauss
Director, The Origins Project at ASU
Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative
Foundation Professor
School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department
Arizona State University, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404
Research Office: I Assistant (Jessica).
Origins Office (Cynthia):
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On Mar 22, 2018, at 1:38 PM, Lawrence Krauss wrote:
number to call at II am on sat is 2127509895
Lawrence M. Krauss
Director, The Origins Project at ASU
Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative
Foundation Professor
School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department
Arizona State University, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404
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On Mar 22, 2018, at 12:48 PM, Justin Dillon <la wrote:
You are getting terrible advice from smart people who have never done this work and have no idea what they're talking about. I
understand where they're coming from, but it is just bad advice, full stop. I could give you dozens of examples where the only
reason my clients got off--and we get a lot off--was because we fought hard to make the process fair. Moreover, no one will take
seriously the constitutional law arguments of a physicist, no matter how famous he is. You need a lawyer to make those.
I don't mean to be rude, but I have to be somewhat jealous with my time so I can focus on the cases in which people have
decided to hire me. We spent a lot of time on the phone yesterday, which I was very happy to do, and I am willing to do a short
call with Jeffrey, but I can't keep emailing about this. I have a limited amount of time, and I have to make sure that I am
spending it as much as possible on my current clients. I assure you that if you hire me and someone else wants to keep talking
about their case while they're deciding, I will tell them the same thing--that they have enough information to make a decision
and just need to decide.
Tell Jeffrey we may have to play phone tag, since my weekend schedule is a little up in the air. So he will need to leave me his
number. I think 11 a.m. Eastern should work as a start if it works for him.
Justin Dillon
KaiserDillon PLLC
1401 K Street NW
Suite 600
Washington, DC 20005
www kaiserdillon com
From: Lawrence Krauss < >
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 3:15:12 PM
To: Justin Dillon
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Cc: Lawrence Krauss
Subject: Re: Advice re Title IX investigation.
what number should he call you on? And a good time? BTW when he cals. it says no caller ID on the phone.. (or I could give you his office number) I
received similar advice this morning from a former trial lawyer who was also on the board of the Buletin of the Atomic Scientists with me.. He was the one
who yesterday urged me to seek legal advice. but today he called to say I should get advice and assistance. but from his experience bringing a lawyer to
represent me to these offices is a killer.. that indicatMg that I am not guilty and am wiling to work with the offices (with advice and assistance from a good
lawyer in the background) is better.
So. I wanted to know your thoughts about this. I assume we could still do a retainer etc and have you assist in every way, including investigation etc..
Thoughts? Sorry to take so much of your time, but this is obviously important to me and I want to handle it very carefuly.
And once again. I am happy to pay for your time responding to this email if you want, and talking to Jeffrey. if you want.
Lawrence
Lawrence M. Krauss
Director, The Origins Project at MU
Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative
Foundation Professor
School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department
Arizona State University, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404
Research Office Assistant (Jessica):
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On Mar 22. 2018, at 10:38AM. Justin Dillon sc t• wrote:
Hi Lawrence. I know who he is, and I am willing to have a short conversation with him. Please tell him he can give me a call this weekend.
Thanks,
Justin
Justin Dillon
KaiserDillon PLLC
1401 K Street NW
Suite 600
Washington, DC 20005
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From: Lawrence Krauss <
Date: Thursday, March 22, 2018 at 12:55 PM
To: Justin Dillon <E >
Cc: Lawrence Krauss <
Subject: Re: Advice re Title IX investigation.
Hi Justin. I have a slightly unusual request. I have been advised through much of the BuzzFeed experience, both before and after, by a
friend, who is also somewhat infamous. His name isJeffrey Epstein, and you may know who he is already. Bottom line Is that Jeffrey is not
only friends with most of the famous people from finance, to business, to Hollywood, who have either been brought down during ',meta°
and he also speaks regularly with people ranging from the awful white house people, who he is friends with, to ken start etc. He is
concerned about exactly how we play this, as he thinks because of the variety and number of different things being discussed in the media
and online, that this will be considered beyond title IX. I should say that all indications I have thus far do not suggest this. But anyway,
Jeffrey would like to speak with you, as he has concerns about my having counsel who directly represent me in interactions with the
University at this time vs having someone to act as an advisor and draft letters that I can send... I will pay for your time to do that if
necessary. Would you be willing to do this in the next day or so? Please let me know, and I can get you contact Info. Thanks.
Lawrence
Lawrence M. Krauss
Director, The Origins Project at MU
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Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative
Foundation Professor
school of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department
Arizona State University, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404
Research Office I Assistant (Jessica):
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On Mar 21, 2018, at 4:39 PM, Justin Dillon wrote:
Ha!!
Justin Dillon
KaiserDillon PLLC
1401 K St. NW
Suite 600
Washington, DC 20005
From: Lawrence Krauss < >
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 7:37:37 PM
To: Justin Dillon
Subject: Re: Advice re Title IX investigation.
probably for the best.. you might have become a physicist then, and your net income would be much lower. :)
Lawrence M. Krauss
Director, The Origins Project at ASU
Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative
Foundation Professor
School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department
Arizona State University, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404
Research Office: Assistant (Jessica):
Origins Office (Cynthia):
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On Mar 21, 2018, at 4:35 PM, Justin Dillon < > wrote:
Ditto! It would've been nice if I could've met you at a book signing 23 years ago, rather than under these circumstances, but so be it.
We will get engagement agreement out to you first thing tomorrow morning.
Justin Dillon
KaiserDillon PLLC
1401 K St. NW
Suite 600
Washington, DC 20005
From: Lawrence Krauss < =>
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: Advice re Title IX Investigation.
To: Justin Dillon <a
Cc: Lawrence Krauss <a
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HI. great talking today. Whatever happens, l really like you. :)
anyway, address Is
17575 Blue Heron CT,
Lake Oswego, OR 97034
I should add that I have a condo In Phoenix and for the moment that Is my tax residence since that is where my MU Income Is. I am
also incorporated with a company which uses that address as well. Primordial Productions INC. 1701 E. Cotter St., Phoenix AZ 85016.
It doesn't
really matter of course as some company mall comes here as well.. I may pay you out of that company if it goes ahead, but you can
advise on
that as well..
Thanks again for the great conversation, and the generous time you devoted to it. Made me feel much better.
Lawrence
Lawrence M. Krauss
Director, The Origins Project at ASU
Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative
Foundation Professor
School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department
Arizona State University, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404
Research Office I Assistant (Jessica)
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On Mar 21, 2018, at 12:26 PM, Justin Dillon •;: > wrote:
Great, I will call you then.
Justin Dillon
KaiserDillon PLLC
1401K Street NW
Suite 600
Washington, DC 20005
www.kaiserdillon.com
From: Lawrence Krauss cti MI>
Date: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 at 1:25 PM
To: Justin Dillon
Cc: Susan Geiger Nancy Portland
Subject: Re: Advice re Title IX investigation.
perfect!
thanks.
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Director, The Origins Project at MU
Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative
Foundation Professor
Schad of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department
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On Mar 21, 2018, at 10:22 AM, Justin Dillon < > wrote:
In that case, why don't we talk a little earlier? I can move some things around. How about 2 o'clock your time?
Justin Dillon
KaiserDillon PLLC
1401 K St. NW
Suite 600
Washington, DC 20005
From: Lawrence Krauss < >
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 1:17:23 PM
To: Justin Dillon
Cc: Susan Geiger; Nancy Portland
Subject: Re: Advice re Title IX investigation.
sure.. no worries.. actually have a dinner at 6 pm, probably done by 730 pm if that is not too late for you on the east coast.
Lawrence
Lawrence M. Krauss
Director, The Origins Project at MU
Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative
Foundation Professor
School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department
Arizona State University, P.O. Box 871400, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404
Research Office: I Assistant (Jessica):
Origins Office Kynthi4:
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On Mar 21, 2018, at 10:12 AM, Justin Dillon < > wrote:
You choose to live in Oregon instead of Arizona? You're even smarter than I thought. Would you be able to talk later tonight, say
at 6:45 your time? I've had a few things come up today that I need to deal with during daylight hours. If that works, I will call you
on your cell then.
Thanks,
Justin
Justin Dillon
KaiserDillon PLLC
1401 K Street NW
Suite 600
Washington, DC 20005
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From: Lawrence Krauss <1 >
Date: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 at 12:13 PM
To: Justin Dillon c >
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Cc: Susan Geiger Lawrence Krauss nancy dahl
Subject: Re: Advice re Title IX investigation
Thanks for getting back to me so quickly! Sorry it has taken me awhile to reply. Your note lifted what was a bad day. How could I
not want to talk to a lawyer who read the Physics of Star Trek! In any case, my cell phone is 2169703496, and as I am on paid
vacation from ASU my schedule is relatively flexible. :) I actually live in Oregon and commute to ASU, so am on pacific time.
I look forward to talking to you.
Lawrence
Lawrence M. Krauss
Director, The Origins Project at ASU
Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative
Foundation Professor
School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department
Arizona State Unreerpty, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ M237-1404
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On Mar 20, 2018, at 5:12 PM, Justin Dillon < > wrote:
Professor Krauss,
Thank you for reaching out. I read The Physics of Star Trek when it came out and have never forgotten, among other things, your
unfortunately depressing analysis that so much data would be involved in transporter technology that it would never be
possible. (If memory serves, you talked about how many books it would take to contain the data and analyzed it in terms of
trips to the moon and back.) I am very sorry to hear about what you've been going through but would be happy to speak with
you about how we might be able to help; I actually have a case going at MU right now, and I represent, at another school,
another professor who has been similarly pilloried in an unfortunately high•profile manner. I will be tied up on calls tonight but
am generally available tomorrow, so please let me know what would work for you.
Thanks, and have a good night.
Justin
Justin Dillon
KaiserDillon PLLC
1401 K Street NW
Suite 600
Washington, DC 20005
www.kaiserthilon.com
From: Susan Geiger 4 >
Date: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 at 7:58 PM
To: Justin Dillon c >
Subject: FW: Advice re Title IX investigation.
Susan J. Geiger
Chief Operating Officer
KaiserDillon PLLC
1401 K Street NW
Suite 600
Washington, DC 20005
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From: Lawrence Krauss
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 7:36 PM
To: Susan Geiger a; Giullana Brogna [email protected]>
Cc: Lawrence Krauss st >: nancy dahl
Subject: Advice re Title IX investigation.
Hello. lam a Professor at Arizona State University, and also director of its Origins Project. In addition, I am relatively well known
to the public. I write NYT bestselling books, appear on television and films, write for the NYT and New Yorker etc.. I am also one
of the more well known atheist and skeptic speakers around the world. That celebrity status has made me a target of numerous
online defamation campaigns in the past. On Feb 22, 2018, the online tabloid BuzzFeed published a defamatory story about me,
following almost 6 months of harassment by them of me, my family, staff, colleagues etc, presenting false daims and then
demanding counter•evidence, comment, or response. As a result of that story all of my speaking commitments for the next
year have been cancelled, l have been removed from all boards on which I was a member, and at least one book contract has
been cancelled. More relevant to this email, my University, which had been aware of many of the Buzzfeed allegations since
Dec. but had discounted them, after publication of the story and the associated publicity, and because Buzzfeed made
additional allegations associated with several anonymous former employees of inappropriate comments by me, the University
has opened an investigation, and has put me on paid leave while that investigation is completed.
The initial instigator for the BuzzFeed article, I believe, was an anonymous claim by a 'witness' that I had touched the breast of
an unidentified woman during a selfie•photograph session I had agreed to do during a banquet at an event in Melbourne in
2016 (the person whose breast I was supposed to have touched did not make a complaint). The woman who I believe first
made the claim last July to my university (Arizona State University) and a second university I am affiliated with (Australian
National University), and to BuzzFeed, Is identified as Melanie Thomson in the BuzzFeed story. There is a network of rather
angry female members of the atheist and skeptical communities who have been trying to suggest that the community is
misogynistic and harassing, and have been trying to bring down prominent male atheists for some time. Ms. Thomson appears
to be an active member of this group. As I indicated above, as one of the more outspoken of the bunch, I have been a target of
whisper campaigns and false claims on the Internet for some time. In any case, ASU and ANU both investigated and dismissed
the original claim, and ANU in their investigation report listed several apparently false features of the evolving allegations of the
complainant. Nevertheless, even though they were aware of this fact, BuzzFeed included this claim, among others, in their
article about me. Following the BuzzFeed article ASU has now reopened the investigation they closed last October.
I don't want to belabor you with further details here. I am contacting you because I want to be prepared to deal with the two
ongoing MU investigations. While I have no reason to believe that either will end negatively, I have also learned from my
research that there is little support for the rights of accused In such cases at many Universities. Which is where you come In.
I would very much like an Initial consult about what my options, rights and advisable actions are at this time, or what they
should be, and how you might assist me as things develop. As Title IX issues differ from institution to institution and state to
state it seems, I am in need of counsel with considerable experience In these matters to advise me.
FYI, many aspects of the story are in the public domain:
BuzzFeed article of 22 February 2018 hjapt/Avww bitzzfeed com/peteraldhousilawroncearauss•sexual•harassmmt-
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My response to the allegations and methods of the BuzzFeed article
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USA Today's AZ central March 7 2018 https://www.azcentral.com/storyinews/local/arizona•education/2018/03/07/asu-
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In addition there are other relevant information sources of information, if we proceed:
communications with BuzzFeed journalists
communications with others interviewed by BuzzFeed journalists
communications with Arizona State University Title IX officers, and equivalent at Australian National University
title IX investigation reports from Arizona State University and equivalent from Australian National University
known relationships amongst accusers, Including the journalists.
The damage to my reputation has of course been severe. Among the consequences thus far are:
•cancellation of all my lecture appearances this year, in Australia (including a 7.city lecture tour with Richard Dawkins), in the US,
and Canada, amounting thus far to lost Income excess of S7SK
•rescinding of invitations to 2 professional meetings at which I was supposed to give major lectures
sostponement (at present) of honorary degree and commencement speaker invitation at Simon Fraser University
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-resignation or removal from 4 boards, Including my position as Chair of the Board of Sponsors of the Bulletin of the Atomic
Scientists
-cancellation of a book contract for a book being cowritten by me and Noam Chomsky
-being put on paid leave by MU and suspended from most ASU campus interactions with colleagues there while they investigate
the BuzzFeed allegations
-cancellation of the capstone 10th anniversary Origins Project (a program I lead at MU) celebration events in April involving 150
major scholars, celebrities, and public intellectuals from around the world.
Thanks.
I look forward to hearing from you further in this matter.
Lawrence Krauss
Lawrence M. Krauss
Director, The Origins Project at ASU
Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative
Foundation Professor
School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department
Arizona State ;MN/tally, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404
Research Office Assistant (Jessica):
Origins Office (Cynthia):
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