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From: "jeffrey E." <[email protected]>
To: "Lawrence H. Summers"
Subject: Re: Dodd frank
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 16:14:12 +0000
its a regulatory issue not a reality based
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Lawrence H. Summers < wrote:
Ok.
But i don't decide anything so don't see problem.
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On Jun 29, 2015, at 4:05 PM, jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wrote:
first , get your own lawyers to look at it. as i read it the document says " investing advice" , I think the
argument that the document does not control is silly, the fact that you don't make the ultimate decisons
could or could not be dispositive. run it by someone who works for you, not the other way around. .
httplAvww.sec.govirulesffinal/2011/ia-3308.pdf
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Lawrence H. Summers < > wrote:
How is this?
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From: "Widmann, Doug"
Date: June 29, 2015 at 2:31:54 PM GMT+2
To: "Lawrence H. Summers"
Cc: lhsoffice , "Michalow, Daniel"
Subject: RE: Dodd frank
Hi, we also discussed with our CCO, Nathan Thomas, so this conclusion is not just my own.
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First, we talked with Dan again to confirm the scope of your activities for D. E. Shaw. We determined that any
trade-related ideas and suggestions are researched by the Macro team and the ultimate decision to take any
action on behalf of our funds is made by Max, Daniel, or another member of the team. Accordingly, from our
perspective, we do not believe that the activities you're involved in would cause you to be considered an
"investment adviser" under applicable law. (However, if a specific provision of Dodd-Frank was mentioned to you,
feel free to let us know which one, if you recall.) Obviously, we are not in a position to provide you with legal
advice on your legal obligations, so you might consider having your own counsel look at this on your behalf. If you
do, we'd be happy to share our perspective with such counsel.
In connection with this, we also reviewed the description of services in the consulting agreement (signed in 2011)
between you and D. E. Shaw. While its language is not controlling, we would prefer to amend it in the near future
to remove a phrase referring to the provision of "investing advice." We will also formally remove the paragraph
that initially required pre-approval of political contributions and activities; I believe Nathan and/or Dan already
confirmed the non-applicability of those approval requirements to you earlier this year, based on an updated
analysis of your status under the applicable rules.
I am away on vacation this week, but will get you our proposed amendments next week when I return to the
office.
Regards,
Doug
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Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 8:53 PM
To: Michalow, Daniel
Cc: Ihsoffice; Widmann, Doug
Subject: Re: Dodd frank
Thx
Let's here what doug thinks.
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On Jun 28, 2015, at 8:50 PM, Michalow, Daniel > wrote:
He's cced. I meant you could double-check with your own counsel.
Doug could you tell Lany what we thought here pls?
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Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 8:49:11 PM
To: Michalow, Daniel
Cc: Ihsoffice; Widmann, Doug
Subject: Re: Dodd frank
What's his email. Ill write him.
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On Jun 28, 2015, at 8:42 PM, Michalow, Daniel > wrote:
I left this with Doug and thought he would have gotten back to you. Sony about that.
I think the answer will be that we really don't think so, but this is legal advice and so if you are
concerned you may want to double check.
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Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 8:15:40 PM
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To: Michalow, Daniel
Cc: Ihsoffice
Subject: Dodd frank
Am I an investment advisor? What did u learn?
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