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From: J <[email protected]>
To: "Mark Tramo, MD PhD"
Subject: Re: To JEE - Music Mind & Brain Syllabus
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 21:16:40 +0000
i am not interested at all in the listening ZERO only the composing.
On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 2:59 PM MARK TRAMO < > wrote:
Interesting - there are several different methodological routes one could take to address the question of
cerebral and genetic similarities in composers:
• in vivo brain morphometry
- measurement of the volume and surface area of the cerebral cortex and any other structure or substructure
of interest (e.g., medial geniculate body; frontal lobe), gyral-sulcal patterns ("brainprints" - please see
attached), density of white matter tracts, and other measures - with very high-Tesla magnets and in some brain
regions, intralaminar myelorachitecture can be discerned.
- this approach has not been applied to composers; measurements in musicians have shown above-average
mid-sagittal surface are of the anterior corpus callosum (this may be interpreted as plasticity fostered by the
bimanual demands of instrument performance) and above-average surface area of the left posterior superior
temporal gyms (planum temporale) in musicians with "perfect pitch" - the critical period for acquisition via
music lessons and relative pitch training is between approx 4-7 yrs
• functional brain imaging (fMRI, PET)
- there are a handful of studies that measured indices of brain metabolism during improvisation by jazz
musicians and rappers (9, but none on successful composers. Because of the experimental set-up (composer
lying with head perfectly still in a claustrophobia-provoking, ridiculously loud tube), these types of studies are
inherently flawed. That said, they are feasible, and two studiies have shown the interesting result that anterior
frontal cortex metabolism decreases during improvisation - this may be interpreted as evidence that
disinhibition of subcortical and other cortical activity (as well as excitation) is part of the creative process
• ligand-binding PET
- does preferred music evoked greater endogenous dopamine, endorphin, and cannabinoid release in the
basal forebrain and cortex in composers than it does in other listeners? [11C]-raclopride and [11C]-carfentanil
binding in the basal forebrain can be used to get at this.
• EEG with high-density electrodes and mathematically-based analyses of regional brain electrical activity
(e.g., principal components analysis)
- this has the advantage that it can be done reasonably non-invasively (unlike fMRI) while a composer is
composing. This method has been used to look at group brain activity in a saxophone ensemble. How to
interpret the data is not straightforward but, as was the case with fMRI, advances might be made by starting
with stimulus paradigms (e.g. click- and tone-eboked auditory evoked potentials) where one knows what
results to expect, then applying the analysis methods to more complex paradigms
• genetic studies
- genotyping can be done in composers and first degree relatives. What markers are similar in both
composers who are related and composers who are not related? What markers are different composers and
their relatives who are not composers? Markers can include cell surface proteins (e.g., like the ABO blood
typing system) as well as genes
• genealogical studies
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- the softest of these methods, but possibly one with high yield. What to Vivaldi, Bach, Mozart, Beethoven,
Brahms, Stravinsky, Lennon, and McCartney have in common? Their fathers were musicians.
On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 10:01 AM J <[email protected]> wrote:
Twins No not interesting to how they perceive i want to know of similarities in composing
On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 12:33 PM MARK TRAMO < wrote:
Hi Jeffrey - Fantastic! May I send you a proposal?
Your idea about reverse engineering echoes something Nobel Laureate David Hubel, my thesis advisor
and a founding board member of The Institute for Music & Brain Science, once said to me:
"Music is what's interesting about the auditory system."
And, "Music teaches us about how the brain works"
I've said to my Harvard and UCLA students at the start of every course (including just last night!) ever
since you and your colleagues built the Mind Brain & Behavior Interfaculty Initiative with President Neil
Rudenstine and Provost Harvey Fineberg and made my Music Mind & Brain course possible 22 yrs ago
Some ideas I am developing in my book that relate to those in your email:
- the universality, innateness, and aesthetics of music reflect that the human brain operates as biology's
most powerful pattern recognition machine
- the acoustic and perceptual features of music that is easily apprehended and globally preferred (time and
rhythm, periodicities and harmony) reflect the human brain's natural, automatic, irresistible, effortless, and
unconscious desire to make order out of chaos - i.e., to "de-entropize" and, a la Kant, organize and
systematize what we experience with its own, biologically-programmed intuitions and categories which
make sense of all the data that constantly floods in through our senses. Galileo's physiological account of
why some combinations of tones sound consonant and others dissonant emphasizes the order and
simplicity of harmonic motion and overlapping periodicities in eardrum vibrations
- something we've discussed over Skype several months back: we develop through experience an internal
model of the external world - early in life, we try to fit that model to what we experience in the external
world; later in life, we try to change the external world to fit our internal model. As we listen to music
flow over time, we have an internal model, derived from implicit knowledge about statistical regularities
in the music of our culture, that drives expectations about where the music is going and, ultimately, how
well it fits our internal model and satisfies our expectations, such that we experience the limerence of a
good fit many times in just a few minutes
- contrasts in music are amenable to and easily apprehended in terms of binary opposition
- music (whether a sonata or song) recapitulates the trajectory of our lives each and every day: the sun
rises and we start out home in bed in repose, then we get out of bed to take on and conquer the challenges
of the day that evoke tension minute-to-minute, second-to-second, then we return home to relax and,
ultimately, return to our repose after the sun sets. This "tension-relaxation schema" applies to all types of
art that unfold over time: novels, theater, movies, music (Richard Dreyfuss liked this concept in particular)
- music taps into the same neural system - the auditory nervous system - that is nature's gateway for
communication in humans and all mammals
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- also, there are data on melody perception by monozygotic twins that tap into genetics, and the relatively
recent discovery of "Congenital Amusia" in a Canadian family has intensified interest in the genetics of
music
P.S.
FYI - Several years back I and Institute board chairman Bob Freeman (former long-time director of the
Eastman School of Music) were guests on Robert Kuhn's PBS TV show, "Closer To Truth." The topic was
Creativity!
Yours,
Mark
On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 4:30 AM J <jeevacation®gmail.com> wrote:
id like to fund Reverse engineering of music. . does its production give one a window on the
creative mechanism.. are rythms a reflection off underyiing operatin system. are they genetic.? are
complex harmonies an indicator of internal complexity etc.
On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 3:21 PM MARK TRAMO wrote:
Hi Jeffrey -
Syllabus attached here for you - today is Day 1 of the new academic year here at UCLA. Hope you
find it interesting - heartfelt thanks for making all this possible over the years. I hope the back is doing
better and passing far beyond that red line near my old Cornell dorm room - please let me know how
you're doing and if there's anything I can do to help with that.
Yours,
Mark
Mark Jude Tramo, MD PhD
Dept of Integrative Biology & Physiology, UCLA School of Letters & Science
Dept of Neurology, David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA
Dept of Musicology, UCLA Herb Alpert School of Music
Director, The Institute for Music & Brain Science
Co-Director, University of California Multi-Campus Music Research Initiative (UC MERCI)
http://www.BrainMusic.org
http://merci.ucsd.edu
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Dept of Integrative Biology & Physiology, UCLA School of Letters & Science
Dept of Neurology, David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA
Dept of Musicology, UCLA Herb Alpert School of Music
Director, The Institute for Music & Brain Science
Co-Director, University of California Multi-Campus Music Research Initiative (UC MERCI)
http://www.BrainMusic.org
http://merci.ucsd.edu
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Mark Jude Tramo, MD PhD
Dept of Integrative Biology & Physiology, UCLA School of Letters & Science
Dept of Neurology, David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA
Dept of Musicology, UCLA Herb Alpert School of Music
Director, The Institute for Music & Brain Science
Co-Director, University of California Multi-Campus Music Research Initiative (UC MERCI)
http:thvww.BrainMusic.org
http://merci.ucsd.edu
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