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awareness - here's the exchange from Friday night on Maddow: RACHEL MADDOW: On the issue of finding a path between the left and right, finding what is doable, what is not doable, I am a true blue liberal and I am allowed to say that. It is okay. But one of the things that I have been struck by during the Obama Administration is that a lot of the civil rights achievements of this administration have actually been undoing things that were done during the Clinton Administration. Whether it was with "Don't Ask, Don't Tell," or the Defense of Marriage Act, or the tough-on-crime mandatory sentences. Former President Clinton is progressive on all those issues now, but policies that he signed for politically practical reasons in the 90s have taken the political miracle of Barack Obama's election and a decade of progressive activism to unwind those things, to get back to zero. And so I know that you and President Clinton are different people. I know that you're not responsible for what he did as President, but is your approach to civil rights issues the same as his or is it different? HILLARY CLINTON: Well I have to say a word about the issues you have mentioned. My take on it is slightly different. On the Defense of Marriage, I think what my husband believed and there was certainly evidence to support it, is that there was enough political momentum to amend the Constitution of the United States of America. And that there had to be some way to stop that. And there was not any rational argument, because I was in on some of those discussions on "Don't Ask Don't Tell" and on DOMA, where both the President and his advisors [inaudible] chime in, "[inaudible] you can't be serious, you can't be serious." But they were. And so in a lot of ways DOMA was a line that was drawn that was to prevent going through RACHEL MADDOW: It was a defensive action — HILLARY CLINTON: It was a defensive action. But culture rapidly changed so that now what was totally anathema to political forces had — they had seen it. They no longer are fighting, except on a local level rear guard action. And with the U.S. Supreme Court decision, it's settled. "Don't Ask Don't Tell" was something that Bill promised during the campaign to let gays serve openly in the military. And what he didn't do — RACHEL MADDOW: It was terrible. HILLARY CLINTON: Oh my gosh, it was the most astonishing overreaction, but by the military, by the Congress. I was never really on the edge of one of those conversations. And it's a "Don't Ask Don't Tell" [inaudible]. So I am not in any way excusing them, but I am explaining it. And the same with the Crime Bill, which was a result of a lot of reaction to and from poor communities, communities of color, to the horrific crime rates of the 1980s. And there was just a consensus across every community, there is nothing that we can do. That went to the first speech I gave in this campaign was about mass incarceration and about reforming policing practices. And I think that sometimes as a leader in a democracy, you are confronted with two bad choices. And it is not that easy a position to be in and you have to try to think, "What is the least bad choice and how do I try [inaudible] resolve from having worse consequences?" My take on this now is that we are going to have an election that is truly going to be a [inaudible] about fundamental rights: a woman's right to choose, and Planned Parenthood, marriage equality, taking on continuing discrimination against the LGBT community, you can get married on Saturday, you can get fired on Monday [inaudible]. We are going to have a very rigorous debate in this election because the Republicans are all on record as trying to reverse the progress that has occurred, a lot of it because of decisions that the court has finally made, both for good and for bad. The marriage equality decision for good, the terrible gutting of the Voting Rights Act for bad. And the Global Activity in states and a woman's right to choose [inaudible], this is going to be at the core of this general election. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 25, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Dominic Lowell <[email protected]> wrote: +Amanda's work account. On Sunday, October 25, 2015, Maya Harris <[email protected]> wrote: > From Richard: > > Since I was asked on Friday about the Defense of Marriage Act in an > interview on MSNBC, I've checked with people who were involved then to make > sure I had all my facts right. It turns out I was mistaken and the effort > to pass a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage came some > years later. The larger point I was trying to make about DOMA, however, is > still true. It was neither proposed nor supported by anyone in the Clinton > administration at the time. It was an effort by the Republicans in Congress > to distract attention from the real issues facing the country by using gay > marriage, which had very little support then, as a wedge issue in the > election. The legislation passed by overwhelming veto-proof margins in both > houses of Congress and President Clinton signed it with serious > reservations he expressed at the time. Luckily the country has evolved way > beyond this in the last 20 years and most Americans, including the Supreme > Court, now embrace LGBT equality. We are a better country for it. Although > there is much work that remains, and I'm eager to help advance the day when > we are all truly equal. > > > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Dominic Lowell < > [email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > >> + JP's personal email >> >> On Sunday, October 25, 2015, Dominic Lowell <[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >> >>> Here is what Gautam put together to be helpful: >>> >>> "I'm not my husband. I understand why he believed that was the right >>> thing to do at the time, but obviously I wish it had gone differently. >>> Look, we've all come along way since the 90s and I'm proud to have been a >>> part of an Administration that has made it possible for gay troops to serve >>> openly and loving gay couples to get married. I'm also proud of MY record >>> as Secretary of State. I think the community knows I will be the ally they >>> deserve." >>> >>> On Sunday, October 25, 2015, Dan Schwerin <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> This WJC op-Ed may be helpful: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/bill-clinton-its-time-to-overturn-doma/2013/03/07/fc184408-8747-11e2-98a3-b3db6b9ac586_story.html >>>> >>>> Bill Clinton: It’s time to overturn DOMA >>>> >>>> *The writer is the 42nd president of the United States.* >>>> >>>> *I*n 1996, I signed the Defense of Marriage Act. Although that was >>>> only 17 years ago, it was a very different time. In no state in the union >>>> was same-sex marriage recognized, much less available as a legal right, but >>>> some were moving in that direction. Washington, as a result, was swirling >>>> with all manner of possible responses, some quite draconian. As a >>>> bipartisan group of former senators stated in their March 1 amicus brief to >>>> the Supreme Court, many supporters of the bill known as DOMA believed that >>>> its passage “would defuse a movement to enact a constitutional amendment >>>> banning gay marriage, which would have ended the debate for a generation or >>>> more.” It was under these circumstances that DOMA came to my desk, opposed >>>> by only 81 of the 535 members of Congress. >>>> >>>> On March 27, DOMA will come before the Supreme Court >>>> <http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2012/12/07/the-supreme-court-takes-up-doma/>, >>>> and the justices must decide whether it is consistent with the principles >>>> of a nation that honors freedom, equality and justice above all, and is >>>> therefore constitutional. As the president who signed the act into law, I >>>> have come to believe that DOMA is contrary to those principles and, in >>>> fact, incompatible with our Constitution. >>>> >>>> Because Section 3 of the act defines marriage as being between a man >>>> and a woman, same-sex couples who are legally married in nine states and >>>> the District of Columbia are denied the benefits of more than a thousand >>>> federal statutes and programs available to other married couples. Among >>>> other things, these couples cannot file their taxes jointly, take unpaid >>>> leave to care for a sick or injured spouse or receive equal family health >>>> and pension benefits as federal civilian employees. Yet they pay taxes, >>>> contribute to their communities and, like all couples, aspire to live in >>>> committed, loving relationships, recognized and respected by our laws. >>>> >>>> When I signed the bill, I included a statement >>>> <http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/user/scotts/ftp/wpaf2mc/clinton.html> with >>>> the admonition that “enactment of this legislation should not, despite the >>>> fierce and at times divisive rhetoric surrounding it, be understood to >>>> provide an excuse for discrimination.” Reading those words today, I know >>>> now that, even worse than providing an excuse for discrimination, the law >>>> is itself discriminatory. It should be overturned. >>>> >>>> We are still a young country, and many of our landmark civil rights >>>> decisions are fresh enough that the voices of their champions still echo, >>>> even as the world that preceded them becomes less and less familiar. We >>>> have yet to celebrate the centennial of the 19th Amendment, but a society >>>> that denied women the vote would seem to us now not unusual or >>>> old-fashioned but alien. I believe that in 2013 DOMA and opposition to >>>> marriage equality are vestiges of just such an unfamiliar society. >>>> >>>> Americans have been at this sort of a crossroads often enough to >>>> recognize the right path. We understand that, while our laws may at times >>>> lag behind our best natures, in the end they catch up to our core values. >>>> One hundred fifty years ago, in the midst of the Civil War, President >>>> Abraham Lincoln concluded a message to Congress by posing the very question >>>> we face today: “It is not ‘Can any of us imagine better?’ but ‘Can we >>>> all do better <http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=29503>?’ >>>> ” >>>> >>>> The answer is of course and always yes. In that spirit, I join with the >>>> Obama administration, the petitioner Edith Windsor >>>> <http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/edie-windsors-fight-for-same-sex-marriage-rights-continues-even-after-partners-death/2012/07/19/gJQARguhwW_story.html>, >>>> and the many other dedicated men and women who have engaged in this >>>> struggle for decades in urging the Supreme Court to overturn the Defense of >>>> Marriage Act. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Oct 25, 2015, at 4:19 PM, Kate Offerdahl < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all - we are going to do 4:30. >>>> >>>> Those here at the Hilton can take the call from the staff room. >>>> >>>> Call-In: 718-441-3763, no pin >>>> >>>> >>>> On Oct 25, 2015, at 4:14 PM, Heather Stone <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Looping in Kate. She is going to get it scheduled. >>>> >>>> On Sunday, October 25, 2015, Dominic Lowell <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> All times are good for me. >>>>> >>>>> On Sunday, October 25, 2015, Heather Stone <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Sounds like tony can do 4:15? Can others? If not I could do anytime >>>>>> before 5:15 or after 6. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sunday, October 25, 2015, Robby Mook <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Adding Dominic. >>>>>>> Agree--let's get our people on a call and push back >>>>>>> I'm also tied up for next few hours @ finance stuff. But let's get >>>>>>> this moving. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Oct 25, 2015, at 3:48 PM, Jake Sullivan < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Adding Tony, who recalls this from ’08 when she made a similar >>>>>>> argument. We did not turn up much to support idea that alternative was a >>>>>>> constitutional amendment. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also adding Schwerin. I think we should pull her statements around >>>>>>> the time she embraced marriage equality and place greatest emphasis on the >>>>>>> fact that she fully acknowledges that she evolved. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I’m on calls next two hours but Maya has my proxy. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *From:* Jennifer Palmieri [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 25, 2015 3:46 PM >>>>>>> *To:* Brian Fallon <[email protected]>; John Podesta < >>>>>>> [email protected]>; Robby Mook <[email protected]>; >>>>>>> Kristina Schake <[email protected]>; Maya Harris < >>>>>>> [email protected]>; Jake Sullivan < >>>>>>> [email protected]>; Marlon Marshall < >>>>>>> [email protected]>; Heather Stone < >>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>> *Subject:* one chain on DOMA >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Think all of us are getting incoming from friends in LGBT community >>>>>>> about DOMA comments. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> HuffPo has reached out to us. I heard from Socarides that NYT was >>>>>>> doing something. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have no understanding of the issue – but clear this has a head of >>>>>>> steam. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Brian can put a statement out, but policy and political need to tell >>>>>>> us what you want us to do. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would suggest a conference call with relevant parties for how we >>>>>>> are going to handle all around – press, groups, politics. I have a bad >>>>>>> schedule for rest of day and may not be able to be on such a call but >>>>>>> don’t think I am needed. We just need guidance and then on political end >>>>>>> think we need a plan for how to hose down anxious friends. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Dominic Lowell >>>>> LGBT Outreach Director | Hillary for America >>>>> 661.364.5186 >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dominic Lowell >>> LGBT Outreach Director | Hillary for America >>> 661.364.5186 >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Dominic Lowell >> LGBT Outreach Director | Hillary for America >> 661.364.5186 >> [email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >> >> > -- Dominic Lowell LGBT Outreach Director | Hillary for America 661.364.5186 [email protected]