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Platform: iMessage Timezone: UTC+0000 Deepak D 2018/12/13 Is consciousness in the individual. , similar to culture the society, . Both are described but are only that descriptions. . the self similar to tribes. . . media similar to transmitters . 11:40:48 pm 2018/12/14 • Deepak Not a bad metaphor The key understanding here is that it's all formless Form is an illusion All form is phenomena All phenomena is perceptual modification of the formless Love from Dubai D 07:08:07 am More than a metaphor. I believe it is a tool for the inquiry . Reductionist arguments. Looking for conciousness in the micro tubules. Is like looking for culture in the feet of a human. 04:21:58 pin Deepak • Did you send me a message ? O 04:29:30 pm Yes 04:33:35 pm • EFTA01619616  Deepak Ok just so Agree reductionism is doomed 04:35:19 pin Everyday reality is a metaphor Reality is invisible Symbolic expression is culture D 04:36:18 pm - Culture on tge socirtyt conciseness in the individual 04:37:06 pm Deepak And buildings bodies and matter All symbols May I send you my MIT Lecture ? D 04:37:16 pin Yes 04:37:53 pm 2018/12/16 Great lecture. . consciousness exists. The same way culture exists. You can't find it by looking for it 12:14:38 pin Deepak Thank you sir ! Mind body and world are symbols A D 01:15:19 pm EFTA01619617  Can you Skype? I have been talking to the best of ai 01:16:49 pm Deepak My wife just arrived from LA Will connect when alone Want to learn more recently Al Air D 02:27:47 pm 2018/12/19 Tomorrow? 06:33:46 am Deepak I'm in an Uber Can speak now or after 1 PM ET Ar• D 02:28:49 pm Concioussness = culture. Neurons =- persons. Tribe = self. Transmitters =. media. . useful descriptions . ( constructs) . Where is culture? = where is consciousness. Culture cannot be located in the individual . Consciousness cannot be located in the conglomeration of neurons. 11:53:57 pm 2018/12/20 Deepak Excellent model A D 12:27:10 am EFTA01619618  Survival of the self. Survival of the tribe. . - , tribes often are the same family. Self is often the same dna. . it is all a construct to help human survive. You perceive physical acoustical visual objects , that allow you to survive. . you're perceptions are bounded by bandwidth. Frequency width. Hz. temp. etc. like a culture has it boundaries. etc 12:32:58 am Deepak • What is that which wants to survive ? Why should a biological organism , with chemistry and physics as it's building blocks want to survive ? D 12:45:07 am Deepak It doesn't want to survive. , it has inherited the trait for survival 12:45:49 am • It being a bunch of chemicals , mathematical abstractions ? Why have a trait for for survival ? D 01:02:56 am Accident 01:28:29 am With randomness . Some thing die snd some stay alive . The things we perceive are those that have survived. Nothing more 07:53:49 am Why do all humans have the same body temp 08:24:47 am • EFTA01619619  Deepak This is the conundrum that most physicalists have a blind spot on No physical mechanism or breaking science can explain how neural firings create mental or perceptual experience or awareness No explanation for insight intuition imagination creativity vision intention desire wonder curiosity or perceptual activity - that we call everyday reality The modeling ( which occurs in consciousness ) can get you only so far 11:17:49 am It's quite funny Sent an attachment Filename: IMG_5682.mov Path: IMG_5682.mov Size: 8 MB Type: video/quicktime 11:18:42 am Sent an attachment Filename: IMG_5676.mov Path: IMG_5676.mov Size: 4 MB Type: video/quicktime D 11:18:57 am Water, can be said to " survive " . Heat, it cool it, it returns to water. Many other combinations of hydrogen and water did not survive 11:24:05 am We don't know why atoms exist. Or if they do. So perception is wayyyy down the line 11:26:01 am Energy also a vague concept , can manifest itself in many forms. The charge on an electron. Attracts a positive . Is the electron aware? . open to change. If there are many , more combinations possible. I guess I could say that the molecule is the result of electron " culture ". 11:28:22 am • EFTA01619620  Deepak Water and all physical objects including atoms are human words for changing perceptual and cognitive activities as is this conversation . They themselves activities of awareness in awareness Awareness alone is ! I realize the the HUGE challenge in overcoming the superstition of matter ( it's a concept) If we were freed from this superstition we could create new technologies and immersive realities and explore the universe without going anywhere I'm going to ; yoga class soon Atli D 1:30:89 am a certain manifestation of energy is called physical . . matter. . it follows its own culture 11:32:52 am Deepak s Energy is a concept like matter is It's first an experience then a human interpretation of hat experience By reifying flashes of evanescent perceptual snap shots the notion of objective reality is created and gives us the capacity to quantify and measure - so matter / energy are useful constructs but constructs nevertheless We create the universe Everything you call the world is a sensation in the body In turn ever sensation in the body and the body itself is a changing experience and modification of awareness in awareness . There is nothing substantial about any of it Only the invisible is real . "In this playhouse of infinite forms I caught sight of the infinite formless " - Ravindranath Tagore ( Indian Nobel laureate - had lots of arguments with Einstein ) D 1:48:04 am Invisible. . only means you cant see it. . a chair in a blackened room. It is the unknowable that is real. 11:50:05 am Im starting to sound indian 11:50:25 am • EFTA01619621  Deepak You are the invisible in the midst of the visible " Who am I in the middle of this thought traffic ? " RUMI Beyond a certain level there is no physicality in science either - just mathematical abstractions in consciousness Running to yoga class 12:02:46 pm Sent an attachment Filename: IMG_5688.mov Path: IMG_5688.mov Size: 6 MB Type: video/quicktime D 03:04:19 pm Great 04:11:49 pm ✓ Sent 2018/12/21 Deepak Dialog with a physicist 08:56:19 pm https://www.facebook.com/DeepakChopra/videos/369554580516953/ Ira EFTA01619622 D 08:56:23 pm ✓ Read EFTA01619623