RE: Happy Holidays

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little too much defense of GMOs, but the money graf is there: The other thing I want to avoid is the Congress preempting the states from being able to label. Because there is a big move by all these interests to try to make that happen. So I think if we can get the voluntary labeling, if we can prevent the preemption, and then we can move forward. I agree with that. I support that. It sounds like Jared does. *From:* Dennis Cheng [mailto:[email protected]] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 23, 2015 12:09 PM *To:* John Podesta <[email protected]>; Jake Sullivan < [email protected]> *Cc:* Sara Latham <[email protected]> *Subject:* RE: Happy Holidays She didn’t do Q&A at the Denver event, so he was definitely talking about the Boulder event, FYI *From:* Dennis Cheng [mailto:[email protected]] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 23, 2015 12:04 PM *To:* 'John Podesta' <[email protected]>; Jake Sullivan < [email protected]> *Cc:* Sara Latham <[email protected]> *Subject:* RE: Happy Holidays I think it was from the Boulder event on the same day – transcript below. I’m also double checking the audio from the Denver event to make sure it wasn’t asked there. QUESTION: We live arguably in the national food capital of America and I would just like to hear your take on why it's so hard to label foods with GMO's, why it's so hard to take on Monsanto. HILLARY CLINTON: Well it's not only Monsanto. It is a much bigger set of interest on the other side of that debate. In part because most of the big agricultural interests, who actually produce the corn, the soybeans, the wheat, are using genetically modified seeds. And they will argue that they are doing it to get a better yield. They are doing it to avoid destruction by pests. They are doing it because it makes sense to do so, especially if there's drought conditions and the like. So the actual work may be done by other companies, like Monsanto, but the real political battle is led by the big farming interest who fear this. That you've got down the food line, corn that's been genetically modified that is in something. And they will say that right now there is hardly any corn produced in the United States, Canada, many other places, that is not genetically modified. Therefore, they don't want it labeled, because they think it's not a fair assessment of the quality of their product. Here's what the Department of Agriculture is doing, and I support this first step. They are moving toward voluntary labeling, because it's really important that food that is sort of more immediately within the eye of the consumer, that has been modified, be so labeled. The corn issue, the wheat issue, a lot of that all should be put, in my view, online, in bar codes so that people can find that information out. The other thing I want to avoid is the Congress preempting the states from being able to label. Because there is a big move by all these interests to try to make that happen. So I think if we can get the voluntary labeling, if we can prevent the preemption, and then we can move forward. I agree with that. I support that. It sounds like Jared does. But I want to say one word. I'll put on a hat that I don't wear, which is a hat of the agricultural interests, and they will say, "We have developed drought resistant seed. It would be a lifesaver. It would create produce and grains that could be grown in Africa. And we can't get them to those farmers because the Europeans, who still have a big influence because of their colonial relationships, are so against GMO. But the traditional grains are no longer growable. The soil the drought conditions are not conducive. So people are going to starve. And with climate change creating more decertification and more drought, it's going to become a bigger and bigger problem." So this whole issue, there are some equities on the other side that we have to sort through as well. So that's why I [inaudible] for voluntary labeling. *From:* John Podesta [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 22, 2015 3:46 PM *To:* Jake Sullivan <[email protected]>; Dennis Cheng < [email protected]> *Subject:* Fwd: Happy Holidays do we have a transcript of that? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: *Gary HIRSHBERG* <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 Subject: Happy Holidays To: John Podesta <[email protected]> John, I finally got word on where the aforementioned comments were made. It was at a fundraiser in Denver. That is not what she should be saying anywhere, but Denver is an especially bad spot for that message due to the number of well-heeled labeling supporters there. It is clear that she does not have a consistent message so I hope you can get through to her on this with my suggestion from earlier today. Again, I am happy to brief her or anyone on the behind-the-scenes politics here. Thanks, *Gary HirshbergChairman, Stonyfield Farm* *Chairman, Just Label It* From: John Podesta <[email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> To: Gary Hirshberg <[email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> Date: 12/22/2015 11:31 AM Subject: Fwd: Happy Holidays ------------------------------ This is what we found that she said most recently. Not exactly what you want her to say, but actually pretty good and not what your friend suggested. This was at a Maryland fundraiser. Is that where he was? QUESTION: Do you think people have a right to know what's in their food and that GMO, genetically modified organisms, should be labeled? HILLARY CLINTON: I believe in two things. I believe in what the Department of Agriculture is doing is to start with a voluntary labeling program because that's all they can get through right now. That's all they can get through, but they need to start it. And we need to tell food manufacturers, through consumer and buyer pressure, to put more information on labels. And people can do that. But the other thing, the thing I am worried about most right now is one of these riders we were talking about, is to preempt states from imposing more rules on what information people should be able to have. So our first order is to stop that rider until we can actually try to let states do more and give states the chance to lead the way. That's what I support. Thank you all. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: *John Podesta* <*[email protected] <[email protected]>*> Date: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 Subject: Happy Holidays To: Gary HIRSHBERG <*[email protected] <[email protected]>*> I hadn't seen your earlier email. I'll ck on this. Don't think it's accurate, but let me ck. On Tuesday, December 22, 2015, Gary HIRSHBERG <[email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: Thanks and the same to you, John. We are planning to host a Primary-eve party in Concord for all of our out-of-town Hillary friends and supporters so I hope I will see you there. We also have 4 empty bedrooms in the week leading up to, and during the primary so let me know if you need a "base camp". And separately, did you see my email to you from a couple days ago? If not, I have appended it below. With the defeat of the Dark Act in 2015, this next year is going to be THE crucible year for getting this resolved, so Hillary's support is very important and I honestly cannot imagine she wants to take a position that is the opposite of what 90% of America's mothers support. Please, lets discuss this asap. Hi john, I hope the anecdote below from one of the nation's most successful and awarded advertising execs is not accurate, but if so, it is very disappointing. We just won a staggering victory in keeping the "Dark Act" out of the Omnibus and Tom Vilsack, Debbie Stabenow and I are organizing a meeting with large food companies in January to try to hammer out a final mandatory labeling solution. Hillary's publicly opposing this is both the wrong policy position but also a direct breach of what she told me, namely that she supports average citizens and moms having the right to know. I have raised nearly $400K for her because I believed what she told me. If that is not the case, I'd like the chance to speak to her. Thanks, Gary