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-1 of 9 - FD-302 (Rev. 5-8-10) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date of entry 04/23/2020 , date of birth was interviewed at 9150 Wilshire Blvd, Beverly Hills, California. Present for the interview was , along with AUSA , AUSA AUSA , Special Agent and Detective . After being advised of the identities of the above listed individuals and the nature of the interview, provided the following information: grew up in until she was about 11 years old. She then moved to in She went to high school and college in the United States. She had a tough childhood in Her father died and it hit her hard. He had a good job and then was diagnosed with cancer. Her family kept it from her. He passed two days before her 17th birthday. would work full time eventually while going to school full time at She fell into a depression for two years of college. would read self help books to get out of it. She began to get an interest in modelling and started when she was about 19-20 years old. She worked 9-5 at a medical office and put modelling off full time until she was done with school. She was going to school at night at this time and she had a boyfriend. A modeling agent called her about a hostess job at a high end restaurant in the night club industry. She started working as a hostess at 20 years old and graduated college at 21 with a degree in management information systems. After college, decided to give modeling a shot. She would give it two years and then go to work. On March 14, 2004 she moved to Manhattan at 22 years old. She moved into an apartment that was walking distance to Union Square. On her first night off (a Saturday) she was invited to a party. met a girl named Investigation on 02/28/2020 at Beverly Hills, California, United States (In Person) File # SOD—NY-3027571 Date drafted 03/27/2020 by This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the moµ" of of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its contents arc nor to be distributed outside your agency. EFTA00086868 FD-302a (Rev. 5-8-10) SOD-NY -3027571 Continuation of FD-302 of ( U ) Interview of a 02/28/2020 ,page 2 of 9 They chatted and danced. asked if wanted to make $300. herself went to see a wealthy guy who liked to get massages from girls in underwear for about half an hour, or 20 minutes. wasn't initially interested but said he was a playboy type and really smart and had a place in the Caribbean. At the end of the massage he would touch himself. asked if she could come in a bathing suit and decided to give it a shot. gave the phone number of the girl who introduced her ( ). The next day (Sunday) received a phone call from and she was asked to meet at 86th street and Broadway. They meet and repeated what told her. asked about her background. said that was really pretty and that EPSTEIN would like her. The next day (Monday) took a cab to EPSTEIN's. was initially with her but did not go with her in cab. went back to EPSTEIN's about 4-5 times after the first incident before she was invited to travel with him. The first time she visited EPSTEIN nothing happened. The second time she thought he tried to escalate it. clenched up and he told her to relax. EPSTEIN told her that if there was something that he was doing that she doesn't like to tell him. He told her it's not fun if they are both not having fun. After a few times, EPSTEIN got to know personally and wanted to know if she wanted to travel. went to Florida with him and a few others then they flew to the island. They traveled with other girls and EPSTEIN's assistant or girlfriend. During these trips, EPSTEIN would make promises. He told that she was smart and it seemed like he was interested in her. He asked what he could help her with and asked if he could help her with her modeling. To take this trip she had to quit her job and needed to get gigs to support herself. It was implied that if traveled with EPSTEIN to give him massages that he would financially support her. EPSTEIN invited on trips from time to time. EPSTEIN would call her while in New York for her to come by his office for social visits, and not for massages. The girls that traveled with him just massaged him while EFTA00086869 FD-302a (Rev. 5-8-10) SOD-NY-3027571 Comthuation of FD-302 of (U) Interview of ,04, 02/28/2020 ,page 3 of 9 traveling and not while they were in New York. In May of 2006, was frustrated. She was in limbo and was doing night club promos and modeling promos. She was not getting help and wanted a career path. She looked into getting her real estate license. She told EPSTEIN and he offered to get her a job. EPSTEIN asked almost from the beginning if she had girlfriends for him. learned eventually that he asked other girls the same thing. EPSTEIN told what he didn't like. He didn't like strippers, heaver drinkers, smokers, liars. He liked 18-23 year old who were clean cut, slim, and attractive girls. In the beginning, asked the girl who introduced her and asked a girl she worked with if they knew anyone interested. Early on she asked about ten girls. EPSTEIN wanted her to chat girls up at castings which she felt uncomfortable doing. EPSTEIN pressured her and she did it once but felt uncomfortable. She would let people who may be interested come talk to her. EPSTEIN helped with some monthly expenses. She felt that as long as they were friends that he was going to look out for her. took state and school tests for real state. While she was taking the state tests, EPSTEIN reached out and told her that he was thinking of buying a modeling agency and he would like for to manage it. EPSTEIN told her she needed to work in the industry for six months to get experience. In August of 2006, learned that EPSTEIN had been arrested. EPSTEIN told her this but she didn't know the details. He told her it was an enemy out to get him. The only info had was from the papers and it wasn't talked about. It was like an awkward silence. EPSTEIN told her to call DARREN INDYKE if contacted by law enforcement and not to speak with law enforcement. EPSTEIN did not specifically say not to talk to law enforcement but to contact INDYKE. EPSTEIN told her not to introduce him to anybody and he was not interested in meeting new people for massages. was scared and freaked out. She just wanted a regular job and to move on. She spoke with EPSTEIN back and forth about jobs and EPSTEIN suggested she intern with a friend of his, JEAN-LUC BRUNEL. did not like BRUNEL, she thought he was creepy. He was disrespectful and EFTA00086870 FD-302a (Rev. 5-8-10) S0D-NY-3027571 Continuation ofFD-302 of (U) Interview of o, 02/28/2020 mg, 4 of 9 misogynistic. She heard he mistreated women on a regular basis. She heard from more than one person that he slipped "roofies" in a girl's drink in Miami. then went to work for NEXT MODEL MANAGEMENT. EPSTEIN told to check in with FAITH. She workde there from November to February. In the middle of February, EPSTEIN ttold that he had an opportunity of a lifetime. The son of a friend of his was looking for an assistant in finance. It was a good career opportunity and she worked there from March 2007- May 2008. relationship with EPSTEIN changed. They no longer traveled together; there were maybe 1-2 more trips. It became more of EPSTEIN giving her advice working at BEAR STEARNS. Their contact become less and less and wasn't physically available and he was on the phone all the time. The job was tough on . She recalled a story coming out and people were reading it and gossiping about her in the work environment. overheard this. No one trained her because she didn't have a lot of experience because EPSTEIN had got her the job. told EPSTEIN that she would like to leave and he told her she had to take the brokers test or it was a waste. She took the test and passed. EPSTEIN then set up with job interviews. did not like these opportunities. EPSTEIN then went to jail. spent one day with him before he went. met through friends. wanted to meet a sponsor. A group of them went to the movies. brought people. invited to the movies and that's how met EPSTEIN. EPSTEIN emailed and said there was a fake lawsuit where was suing EPSTEIN and , and that she should get a lawyer and not talk to EPSTEIN about it. had been in touch via email and called and saw EPSTEIN two times after he got out of jail. moved to Los Angeles in 2011. In 2014, wrote him an email apologizing for ghosting him and to wish him a Merry Christmas and happy birthday. was shocked in 2010 when EPSTEIN directly asked her to look for girls for him. He had just gotten out of jail and had a job. In 2010, was having a casual conversation with EPSTEIN when all of a EFTA00086871 FD-302a (Rev. 5-8-10) 50D-NY-3027571 Comthwdion of FD-302 of (U) Interview of 02/28/2020 ,page 5 of 9 sudden he asked, "When are you going to start producing?". was shocked that he would expect that from her at this point. He wanted her to find girls for massages. This conversation happened when she was walking home and on the phone with him. cried for four hours and thought about ways to leave New York. In 2013, became a massage therapist. She had already been interested in massage prior to meeting EPSTEIN. currently works for a mobile massage company and she likes her job. EPSTEIN once stated that he was not interested in girls over 23 years old. impression was that he liked girls between 18-23 years old although she was not sure if he ever said as young as 18 or gave a specific age. did not speak with INDYKE. EPSTEIN specifically told , "Uou do not want to see me angry or upset". stated that EPSTEIN could be intimidating. On one occasion in Florida the housekeeper woke him up. EPSTEIN came downstairs and he seemed upset, trying to contain his anger. He said "Don't ever wake me up again. I don't care if there's a fire in the house. You carry me out". was not aware of specific people but she knew that EPSTEIN had three appointments a day for massages. She heard him on the phone asking someone if they had any friends. He may have mentioned someone by name but it was in passing. In 2004, or was present when met and (from who came during the summers) and a girl from was there though 2005. came from time to time though 2006. was there around 2005 and met ) around 2006. is from and was quiet on a lot of the trips. asked her how she met EPSTEIN and she said she was a young model and met EPSTEIN at a party that invited her to. told that she was in love with EPSTEIN and he was the only man she was in love with. had her emotions hurt. EPSTEIN ignored her and called her when it was convenient. A lot of girls had their emotions hurt. EFTA00086872 FD-302a (Rev. 5-8-10) SOD-NY-3027571 Comthwdion of FD-302 of (U) Interview of ,o, 02/28/2020 ,page 6 of 9 EPSTEIN told that she needed to lose weight and said that her hair color looked like a lemon. thought these people were successful and nice for the first year. On the phone EPSTEIN would hang up sharply. He would be cold sometimes. The girlfriends he spent the most time with slept in his bed. was impressed that EPSTEIN was from Brooklyn and made his money himself. He seemed like motivation. She looked at him as a mentor. thought that he was interested in her as a woman. He told her she was smart and would do well. There were other girls that he didn't think were smart. came on some trips. She would follow him with a notebook and take care of projects he wanted done. would hang out with them when there was common time, or they were having dinner, or going to the movies. was a very nice, neutral quiet person. EPSTEIN and were friendly with each other. EPSTEIN was too familiar with her; he would ask her to take her top off. He did have professional conduct with her while in the office. On the island, on one occasion, everyone was sitting by the pool and EPSTEIN said "OK everyone take your clothes off". was surprised. was there and she was the first to take her top off, which she did with ease. was surprised because she was his assistant. There were two other incidents that didn't think were professional. The first was in 2006 with GHISLAINE MAXWELL and possibly in New Mexico. was not present for this but she was with a group of people when they were discussing the incident. chatted with these individuals about this and made a point to ask questions. MAXWELL wanted to make a mold of breasts. had heard that did not want to do it. They mixed the solution incorrectly and got a 2nd degree burn. did not notice or pay attention to any scars she may have had because of this. The second incident was an occasion in which got a stomach bug. EPSTEIN would tease her that she needed to lose weight in front of other people. got a haircut and said to EPSTEIN, "Doesn't she look nice?", and he responded, "Yes, she looks like a good little EFTA00086873 FD-302a (Rev. 5-8-10) SOD-NY-3027571 comimmthmofmaeof (U) Interview of a 02/28/2020 mg, 7 of 9 cocksucker". dismissed that comment. met on her first trip to Florida. told EPSTEIN saved her life. EPSTEIN paid for school. EPSTEIN sent to Spain. talked to about . was the second assistant when couldn't run errands. gave regular massages on the island. did not know how and met EPSTEIN. was a very nice, • girl wither eyes. She spoke English. was 19 years old when met her. was more friends with was funny and chatty. She was more of a real person and less of a model. She was a ballerina. Her mother was a hippie and grew up in She was 23 years old. and did not get along at some point. became aware of MAXWELL very soon. Maybe around the 3rd or 4th time with EPSTEIN. EPSTEIN changed his mind at some point and gave him a foot massage. and EPSTEIN went to Spice Market on one occasion. MAXWELL and a scientist were there that they met. searched them on the internet after they met. met MAXWELL for the second time when was on the island. MAXWELL came in the middle of the trip and introduced herself. They were on a speed boat together and MAXWELL said "if you ever need me, take my number". MAXWELL was intimidating and kind of harsh. heard that MAXWELL and EPSTEIN used to date or be engaged. From what observed, MAXWELL would arrange social interactions. heard EPSTEIN speak with MAXWELL numerous times over the phone and in person. MAXWELL would set up meetings with celebrities and businesses. EPSTEIN would say, "Did you set up that meeting". EPSTEIN would talk about MAXWELL. EPSTEIN would mention that MAXWELL was the original girl finder. MAXWELL would find girls for him. MAXWELL was the original girl finder and had an understanding that her role was to introduce him to women. She would also find women to waitress for him. He would hire women to serve lunch and dinner to him for $15 an hour years ago when he first started getting massages. EFTA00086874 FD-302a (Rev. 5-8-10) 50D-NY-3027571 Continuation of FU-302 of ( U ) Interview of ,04, 02/28/2020 ,page 8 of 9 MAXWELL was mean to the girls. heard this through gossip. EPSTEIN would talk about MAXWELL's exes. His girlfriends would be jealous of each other. MAXWELL was jealous of ) and III was jealous of On one occasion, asked EPSTEIN how he got the idea to have three massages a day, and how did he find the girls. EPSTEIN explained that he was a sex addict and if he didn't have his release that it would affect his work. During a 2004 conversation that had with EPSTEIN he said that about 15 years ago he would go to BLOOMINGDALES to pick up girls during his lunch break. He had a conversation with a male friend at the time who told him he could relieve himself by getting massages with happy endings. EPSTEIN said that he had an ex-girlfriend from Minnesota. III and were his girlfriends when he was younger. In September of 2004 met a girl who said she was his ex-girlfriend. She was a model for agency. In late 2004 was looking for a promotional modelling job for herself on CRAIGSLIST. She noticed one post that was requesting "model looking girls". recalled that the email address on this ad was either or put this email into GOOGLE and found at least two more similar postings possibly on other websites. was asked if BACKPAGE sounded familiar to which she answered, "I think so, not sure". EPSTEIN brainwashed a lot. EPSTEIN said that "after 23 women get sour attitudes, they are not fun". EPSTEIN made feel as though most men felt this way. assumed MAXWELL stopped getting girls because she didn't hear anything. was asked about sexual contact with others present. She stated that EPSTEIN surprised her a couple times. On another occasion, he asked . On one occasion, organized the encounter. On one occasion, a girl named was present; she was about 20-21 years old with hair and eyes. On another occasion, a girl named was pr rt. Sometimes EPSTEIN would be in the massage room with another EFTA00086875 FD-302a (Rev. 5-8-10) S0D-NY-3027571 Continuation ofFD-302 of (U) Interview of o, 02/28/2020 ins, 9 of 9 woman and he would ask to join. These occasions would not know them and the room would be dark. FAITH was the owner of NEXT MODEL MANAGEMENT. met her before she started interning. When was in the hospital, FAITH was her agent. FAITH and EPSTEIN came to the hospital and met her there. was not sure what and FAITH's relationship was. EPSTEIN knew her since 1985. FAITH was an agent at WILHELMINA MODELS prior to this. EPSTEIN would talk down to FAITH. In the fall of 2006, heard EPSTEIN ask FAITH when she was going to find a girl for him. FAITH responded by saying something like, "I introduced you to last year". EPSTEIN responded or implied that was out of commission and did not look the same. EPSTEIN had a mentor named taught him how to dress and was a personal and social mentor. He changed the perception of the world, and learned how to dress appropriately. was asked if anyone ever asked her to delete or get rid of anything to which she answered "no". In 2006, EPSTEIN told everything. He told her that email and text messages could be monitored. did not know what that meant. expressed that he preferred to speak over the phone. was asked if EPSTEIN asked her to see other men to which she responded by stating "yes". At some point, EPSTEIN suggested that see some of his acquaintances. He suggested this more than once. At this time, preferred not to share the names of these individuals. was told by EPSTEIN to set up one of his friends with confirmed this appointment. In late 2006-2007, EPSTEIN introduced to his friend LEON BLACK. said that she threw up in her mouth and laughed about it. never witnessed or heard of giving EPSTEIN a massage. EFTA00086876