RE: NPR this morning

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to say I read the Ebony transcript and while it was tough (and LONG), it was respectful and not personal—at least not the way this interview is. Hard to tell the tone of the questions from the transcript but they were much more thoughtful than this. I’m hopeful that whatever press comes out of Ebony will be more positive than not. *From:* Sara Solow [mailto:[email protected]] *Sent:* Saturday, January 16, 2016 2:12 PM *To:* Tony Carrk <[email protected]> *Cc:* Ron Klain <[email protected]>; Karen Dunn < [email protected]>; Jake Sullivan <[email protected]>; Kristina Costa <[email protected]>; John Podesta < [email protected]> *Subject:* Re: NPR this morning yuck On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 12:52 PM, Tony Carrk <[email protected]> wrote: Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: *From:* Laurel Ruza <[email protected]> *Date:* January 16, 2016 at 12:51:07 PM EST *To:* Tony Carrk <[email protected]> *Cc:* mediamonitoring <[email protected]> *Subject:* *Re: NPR this morning* Link: http://mms.tveyes.com/PlaybackPortal.aspx?SavedEditID=314a7cdc-7cfa-4527-ab50-0e3846f9b286 Transcript *REPORTER: *So in August of last year, Hillary Clinton had a meeting with Black Lives Matter activists and their discussion became, as you remember, really, well very, very heated and she said, look you're interested in changing hearts and that can go on forever, maybe you'll succeed maybe you won't. I'm interested in it, as a politician, in changing laws. What was your level of satisfaction with that encounter and is she wrong? *ALICIA GARZA: *What I will say is, and this isn't being diplomatic, right. This is just trying to... *REPORTER: *Why would you want to be, why would you want, why be diplomatic? *ALICIA GARZA: *I don't have a reason to be. It's trying to allow multiple perspectives, right. To be fair, no change in this country has ever happened merely by changing laws and it was disappointing, quite frankly, to hear former Secretary Clinton use that language because certainly an accurate view of history shows us that we are always in a dialectical relationship between changing culture, or changing hearts, and changing policy and that if we don't do one the other one doesn't happen, right. I also was really disappointed that she used, what I thought, was a fantastic opportunity to sit and really build with young Black activists who had come specifically to share their concerns with her. That she used that opportunity to almost shun them as opposed to.. *REPORTER: *Shun or lecture? *ALICIA GARZA: *Both, to be honest, because they were still pointed questions that were being put forward to her and one of those pointed questions was about changing *REPORTER: *Didn't you want her to share her view of things too? *ALICIA GARZA: *Well, let me be clear, one of the pointed questions that she was asked was about her changing stance on mass incarceration. *REPORTER: *Right. *ALICIA GARZA: *Now, you know, I grew up in the era of mass incarceration when Black people. in particular, were had being demonized and being seen as a drain on government resources, and, you know, former Secretary Clinton and her husband, former President Clinton, really removed this very robust agenda around criminalizing Black people and they did that in a couple of different ways. One was by passing and championing this landmark three strikes legislation, which actually incarcerated more Black people than any other time in history, right. They also did something which was overwhelming, which was to dismantle states supports for families to be able to thrive or just at the very least survive, right. And they did that under this notion, right, that people were taking advantage of the system and that people are not redeemable. And now what we see on the campaign trail is that there's suddenly this new stance that says mass incarceration is a horrible thing, right. And the question that those activists pose to her of what changed her mind is not an out there question. It's really not, and I thought it was brilliant. *REPORTER: *And you thought she got defensive? *ALICIA GARZA: *Well she did get defensive, and she got dismissive, and she also didn't answer the question. *REPORTER: *You going to vote for her? *ALICIA GARZA: *Well, no I'm not, and mostly have been impacted by that experience very much. I do believe that, you know, dialogue is necessary. *REPORTER: *We get November, the likelihood that it's going to be Hillary Clinton against, I don't know, Ted Cruz, or Marco Rubio, or Donald Trump. You're going to stay home? You're going to pull the lever for the Republican? *ALICIA GARZA: *No, no, no, I definitely plan to vote. I'm not going to vote for Hillary Clinton that's where my stance is, and I'm not voting for any Republicans. *REPORTER: *So, in other words, a third party. Can I remind you, Ralph Nader was also a third party candidate. *ALICIA GARZA: *I remember. I do think it's troubling that we do something in this country where we go, if you don't vote for the appointed ones everything is going to go to hell. That's not actually true. What is true, certainly, is that there are multiple things that are important for us to make decisions about and president is one, and the reason for that being Supreme Court appointees, yea. But I also want to be really clear that for Black people in this country to demand allegiance to a candidate that has deliberately, deliberately lessened their quality of life, I think, is irresponsible. *REPORTER: *When you see the percentage of African Americans, who have in fact, said that they'll vote for Hillary Clinton, does it make you despair in some way? Because it's very, very high as you know. *ALICIA GARZA: *No, it doesn't make me despair in any way. I think, what we know about Black voters is that we tend to vote Democratic. *REPORTER: *Yea. *ALICIA GARZA: *And we tend to do that across the board. *REPORTER: *In a sense, you feel you give away the vote too cheap? *ALICIA GARZA: *I absolutely feel that way. On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Tony Carrk <[email protected]> wrote: HRC said there was a segment with a woman from BLM who said HRC/WJC ruined black lives Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "mediamonitoring" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/hillaryclinton.com/d/msgid/mediamonitoring/-3480609761556485230%40unknownmsgid .