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Sorry to be late to this but what outlets have made the statement request and what is the deadline? On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 7:46 PM, Dominic Lowell <[email protected]> wrote: > Amanda and I tried to address Tony and Dan's points -- as well as Karen > who pointed out the context is bigger than just Maddow -- while taking into > account the concerns of our cabinet. Below is what we landed on. Appreciate > feedback. > > ** > > On Friday, and in many instances previously, I was asked about my position > on the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA). I appreciate that people have > differing views of the DOMA situation [other word?] in 1996. The > environment for gays and lesbians was different then and there were > struggles about the best paths to take. That is common in all social change > movements. I have been very open that my own views have evolved over the > years. > > I hope the important thing is that we are now moving forward toward > justice, together. > In 2013, I added my voice in support of marriage equality “personally and > as a matter of policy and law.” As I said then, LGBT Americans are full > and equal citizens and they deserve the full and equal rights of > citizenship. Like so many others, my personal views have been shaped over > time by people I have known and loved, by my experience representing our > nation on the world stage, my devotion to law and human rights, and the > guiding principles of my faith. That’s why, as a Senator, I pushed for laws > that would extend protections to the LGBT community in the workplace and > that would make violence towards LGBT individuals a hate crime. And as > Secretary of State, I put LGBT rights on the global agenda and told the > world that “gay rights are human rights and human rights are gay rights.” > In my speech last night in Iowa, I didn’t look back to the America of the > past, I looked forward to the America we need to build together. I pledged > to fight for LGBT Americans who, despite all our progress, in many places > can still get married on Saturday and fired on Monday just because of who > they are and who they love. In this campaign and as President, I will keep > fighting for equality and opportunity for every American. > > On Sunday, October 25, 2015, Amanda Renteria <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> The hope is to squash the story bc it's not going away. >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Oct 25, 2015, at 7:35 PM, Kristina Schake <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> What do we actually have to do here? I'm not sure a statement will help >> us. Do we need to response to the Huffington Post? Is that the main >> request? >> >> On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 7:04 PM, Amanda Renteria < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> What about broadening the perspectives at that time? >>> Acknowledging there were a lot of diff views vs she was wrong. ? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Oct 25, 2015, at 6:57 PM, Tony Carrk <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> And also for awareness for everyone to have, attached are HRC’s comments >>> on DOMA Carter from my team put together. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Dan Schwerin [mailto:[email protected]] >>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 25, 2015 6:56 PM >>> *To:* Amanda Renteria <[email protected]> >>> *Cc:* Dominic Lowell <[email protected]>; Karen Finney < >>> [email protected]>; Maya Harris <[email protected]>; >>> Heather Stone <[email protected]>; Robby Mook < >>> [email protected]>; Jake Sullivan <[email protected]>; >>> Jennifer Palmieri <[email protected]>; Brian Fallon < >>> [email protected]>; Kristina Schake <[email protected]>; >>> Marlon Marshall <[email protected]>; Tony Carrk < >>> [email protected]>; Brynne Craig <[email protected]>; >>> Sally Marx <[email protected]>; Teddy Goff < >>> [email protected]>; John Podesta <[email protected]>; >>> Christina Reynolds <[email protected]> >>> *Subject:* Re: one chain on DOMA >>> >>> >>> >>> I think everyone agrees we shouldn't restate her argument. Question is >>> whether she's going to agree to explicitly disavow it. And I doubt it. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 25, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Amanda Renteria < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> There is no way we have friends to back us up on her interpretation. >>> This is a major problem if we revisit her argument like this. It's better >>> to do nothing than to re-state this although she is going to get a question >>> again. >>> >>> >>> >>> Working w Dominic now. >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> >>> On Oct 25, 2015, at 6:34 PM, Dan Schwerin <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I'm not saying double down or ever say it again. I'm just saying that >>> she's not going to want to say she was wrong about that, given she and her >>> husband believe it and have repeated it many times. Better to reiterate >>> evolution, opposition to DOMA when court considered it, and forward looking >>> stance. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 25, 2015, at 6:28 PM, Dominic Lowell <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Jumping on a call with the kitchen cabinet now to give them an update. >>> Will turn to this ASAP. >>> >>> >>> >>> The most recent Blade article has Elizabeth Birch quoted as saying there >>> was no amendment threat in 1996. Hilary Rosen has already tweeted the same. >>> I'll ask on the call, but my sense is that there aren't many friends who >>> will back us up on the point. That's why I'm urging us to back off as much >>> as we can there. >>> >>> >>> >>> More soon. >>> >>> On Sunday, October 25, 2015, Dan Schwerin <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I'd welcome specific edits. I'm fine not mentioning WJC if that's >>> problematic, but my two cents is that you're not going to get her to >>> disavow her explanation about the constitutional amendment and this >>> exercise will be most effective if it provides some context and then goes >>> on offense. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 25, 2015, at 6:15 PM, Karen Finney <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> If the criticism is that she has said before and reiterated on Friday >>> then hit by Bernie yesterday is t that the context? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> >>> On Oct 25, 2015, at 6:00 PM, Dominic Lowell <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Sorry, on phone so focused more on overall thoughts than line edits. Can >>> call you directly if any of this is unclear. Sending to all so people can >>> react, push back, etc. >>> >>> >>> >>> I originally flagged HRC's Maddow remarks as potentially problematic in >>> part because her wording closely linked her to two unfavorable policies of >>> the past even as no one in the community was asking her to "own" them. >>> Given that, my recommendation would be to make this statement about just >>> her, her evolution, and her record -- not bring in WJC. >>> >>> >>> >>> Relatedly, if we release a statement tonight, it will very clearly be in >>> response to the Maddow interview. To the extent we can, I advocate for >>> owning that so that we can clean this up completely, rightly position her >>> as a champion of LGBT issues, and make sure we move on from any discussion >>> of looming amendments or her being involved in passing either DADT or DOMA. >>> Without getting into the weeds, can we say that the broader point is that >>> the country is in a different place now on LGBT issues -- and thank >>> goodness it is -- and that she's so happy each policy has been placed in >>> the dustbin of history? >>> >>> >>> >>> Last thought: I have raised this a few times to a smaller number of >>> people on this thread but will flag this for the larger group as well. At >>> Keene State College, she specifically cited friends playing a part in her >>> evolution, which we echo here. That's fine, IMO, and quite believable. But >>> if I were a reporter and wanted to keep the evolution story alive, I would >>> start asking which friends she was talking to and ask us to provide them. >>> Not a problem per se, but I think it is worth flagging now so we aren't >>> caught by surprise later. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, October 25, 2015, Dan Schwerin <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> This is a little long, but see what you think. Tried to 1) place this in >>> a context of 'asked and answered,' 2) point to how they've both >>> forthrightly explained their evolution, 3) cite her positive LGBT record, >>> 4) get in a little dig at Sanders for being so backwards looking. >>> >>> >>> >>> STATEMENT >>> >>> >>> >>> In 2013, when the Supreme Court was considering whether to uphold the >>> Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), Bill and I explained publicly how and why >>> we became strong supporters of marriage equality. Bill, who signed DOMA >>> nearly twenty years ago after an overwhelming vote in Congress, called the >>> law a discriminatory vestige of a less tolerant America and urged the Court >>> to strike it down. I added my voice in support of marriage equality >>> “personally and as a matter of policy and law.” As I said then, LGBT >>> Americans are full and equal citizens and they deserve the full and equal >>> rights of citizenship. Like so many others, my personal views have been >>> shaped over time by people I have known and loved, by my experience >>> representing our nation on the world stage, my devotion to law and human >>> rights, and the guiding principles of my faith. That’s why, as a Senator, >>> I pushed for laws that would extend protections to the LGBT community in >>> the workplace and that would make violence towards LGBT individuals a hate >>> crime. And as Secretary of State, I put LGBT rights on the global agenda >>> and told the world that “gay rights are human rights and human rights are >>> gay rights.” In my speech last night in Iowa, I didn’t look back to the >>> America of the past, I looked forward to the America we need to build >>> together. I pledged to fight for LGBT Americans who, despite all our >>> progress, in many places can still get married on Saturday and fired on >>> Monday just because of who they are and who they love. In this campaign >>> and as President, I will keep fighting for equality and opportunity for >>> every American. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Dominic Lowell < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> +Amanda's work account. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, October 25, 2015, Maya Harris <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> From Richard: >>> >>> >>> >>> Since I was asked on Friday about the Defense of Marriage Act in an >>> interview on MSNBC, I've checked with people who were involved then to make >>> sure I had all my facts right. It turns out I was mistaken and the effort >>> to pass a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage came some >>> years later. The larger point I was trying to make about DOMA, however, is >>> still true. It was neither proposed nor supported by anyone in the Clinton >>> administration at the time. It was an effort by the Republicans in Congress >>> to distract attention from the real issues facing the country by using gay >>> marriage, which had very little support then, as a wedge issue in the >>> election. The legislation passed by overwhelming veto-proof margins in both >>> houses of Congress and President Clinton signed it with serious >>> reservations he expressed at the time. Luckily the country has evolved way >>> beyond this in the last 20 years and most Americans, including the Supreme >>> Court, now embrace LGBT equality. We are a better country for it. Although >>> there is much work that remains, and I'm eager to help advance the day when >>> we are all truly equal. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Dominic Lowell < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> + JP's personal email >>> >>> On Sunday, October 25, 2015, Dominic Lowell <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Here is what Gautam put together to be helpful: >>> >>> >>> >>> "I'm not my husband. I understand why he believed that was the right >>> thing to do at the time, but obviously I wish it had gone differently. >>> Look, we've all come along way since the 90s and I'm proud to have been a >>> part of an Administration that has made it possible for gay troops to serve >>> openly and loving gay couples to get married. I'm also proud of MY record >>> as Secretary of State. I think the community knows I will be the ally they >>> deserve." >>> >>> On Sunday, October 25, 2015, Dan Schwerin <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> This WJC op-Ed may be helpful: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/bill-clinton-its-time-to-overturn-doma/2013/03/07/fc184408-8747-11e2-98a3-b3db6b9ac586_story.html >>> >>> >>> Bill Clinton: It’s time to overturn DOMA >>> >>> *The writer is the 42nd president of the United States.* >>> >>> *I*n 1996, I signed the Defense of Marriage Act. Although that was only >>> 17 years ago, it was a very different time. In no state in the union was >>> same-sex marriage recognized, much less available as a legal right, but >>> some were moving in that direction. Washington, as a result, was swirling >>> with all manner of possible responses, some quite draconian. As a >>> bipartisan group of former senators stated in their March 1 amicus brief to >>> the Supreme Court, many supporters of the bill known as DOMA believed that >>> its passage “would defuse a movement to enact a constitutional amendment >>> banning gay marriage, which would have ended the debate for a generation or >>> more.” It was under these circumstances that DOMA came to my desk, opposed >>> by only 81 of the 535 members of Congress. >>> >>> On March 27, DOMA will come before the Supreme Court >>> <http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2012/12/07/the-supreme-court-takes-up-doma/>, >>> and the justices must decide whether it is consistent with the principles >>> of a nation that honors freedom, equality and justice above all, and is >>> therefore constitutional. As the president who signed the act into law, I >>> have come to believe that DOMA is contrary to those principles and, in >>> fact, incompatible with our Constitution. >>> >>> Because Section 3 of the act defines marriage as being between a man and >>> a woman, same-sex couples who are legally married in nine states and the >>> District of Columbia are denied the benefits of more than a thousand >>> federal statutes and programs available to other married couples. Among >>> other things, these couples cannot file their taxes jointly, take unpaid >>> leave to care for a sick or injured spouse or receive equal family health >>> and pension benefits as federal civilian employees. Yet they pay taxes, >>> contribute to their communities and, like all couples, aspire to live in >>> committed, loving relationships, recognized and respected by our laws. >>> >>> When I signed the bill, I included a statement >>> <http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/user/scotts/ftp/wpaf2mc/clinton.html> with >>> the admonition that “enactment of this legislation should not, despite the >>> fierce and at times divisive rhetoric surrounding it, be understood to >>> provide an excuse for discrimination.” Reading those words today, I know >>> now that, even worse than providing an excuse for discrimination, the law >>> is itself discriminatory. It should be overturned. >>> >>> We are still a young country, and many of our landmark civil rights >>> decisions are fresh enough that the voices of their champions still echo, >>> even as the world that preceded them becomes less and less familiar. We >>> have yet to celebrate the centennial of the 19th Amendment, but a society >>> that denied women the vote would seem to us now not unusual or >>> old-fashioned but alien. I believe that in 2013 DOMA and opposition to >>> marriage equality are vestiges of just such an unfamiliar society. >>> >>> Americans have been at this sort of a crossroads often enough to >>> recognize the right path. We understand that, while our laws may at times >>> lag behind our best natures, in the end they catch up to our core values. >>> One hundred fifty years ago, in the midst of the Civil War, President >>> Abraham Lincoln concluded a message to Congress by posing the very question >>> we face today: “It is not ‘Can any of us imagine better?’ but ‘Can we >>> all do better <http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=29503>?’ >>> ” >>> >>> The answer is of course and always yes. In that spirit, I join with the >>> Obama administration, the petitioner Edith Windsor >>> <http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/edie-windsors-fight-for-same-sex-marriage-rights-continues-even-after-partners-death/2012/07/19/gJQARguhwW_story.html>, >>> and the many other dedicated men and women who have engaged in this >>> struggle for decades in urging the Supreme Court to overturn the Defense of >>> Marriage Act. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 25, 2015, at 4:19 PM, Kate Offerdahl < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all - we are going to do 4:30. >>> >>> >>> >>> Those here at the Hilton can take the call from the staff room. >>> >>> >>> >>> Call-In: 718-441-3763, no pin >>> >>> >>> On Oct 25, 2015, at 4:14 PM, Heather Stone <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Looping in Kate. She is going to get it scheduled. >>> >>> On Sunday, October 25, 2015, Dominic Lowell <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> All times are good for me. >>> >>> On Sunday, October 25, 2015, Heather Stone <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Sounds like tony can do 4:15? Can others? If not I could do anytime >>> before 5:15 or after 6. >>> >>> On Sunday, October 25, 2015, Robby Mook <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Adding Dominic. >>> >>> Agree--let's get our people on a call and push back >>> >>> I'm also tied up for next few hours @ finance stuff. But let's get this >>> moving. >>> >>> >>> On Oct 25, 2015, at 3:48 PM, Jake Sullivan <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Adding Tony, who recalls this from ’08 when she made a similar >>> argument. We did not turn up much to support idea that alternative was a >>> constitutional amendment. >>> >>> >>> >>> Also adding Schwerin. I think we should pull her statements around the >>> time she embraced marriage equality and place greatest emphasis on the fact >>> that she fully acknowledges that she evolved. >>> >>> >>> >>> I’m on calls next two hours but Maya has my proxy. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Jennifer Palmieri [mailto:[email protected]] >>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 25, 2015 3:46 PM >>> *To:* Brian Fallon <[email protected]>; John Podesta < >>> [email protected]>; Robby Mook <[email protected]>; >>> Kristina Schake <[email protected]>; Maya Harris < >>> [email protected]>; Jake Sullivan <[email protected]>; >>> Marlon Marshall <[email protected]>; Heather Stone < >>> [email protected]> >>> *Subject:* one chain on DOMA >>> >>> >>> >>> Think all of us are getting incoming from friends in LGBT community >>> about DOMA comments. >>> >>> >>> >>> HuffPo has reached out to us. I heard from Socarides that NYT was doing >>> something. >>> >>> >>> >>> I have no understanding of the issue – but clear this has a head of >>> steam. >>> >>> >>> >>> Brian can put a statement out, but policy and political need to tell us >>> what you want us to do. >>> >>> >>> >>> I would suggest a conference call with relevant parties for how we are >>> going to handle all around – press, groups, politics. I have a bad >>> schedule for rest of day and may not be able to be on such a call but >>> don’t think I am needed. We just need guidance and then on political end >>> think we need a plan for how to hose down anxious friends. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Dominic Lowell >>> >>> LGBT Outreach Director | Hillary for America >>> >>> 661.364.5186 >>> >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Dominic Lowell >>> >>> LGBT Outreach Director | Hillary for America >>> >>> 661.364.5186 >>> >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Dominic Lowell >>> >>> LGBT Outreach Director | Hillary for America >>> >>> 661.364.5186 >>> >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Dominic Lowell >>> >>> LGBT Outreach Director | Hillary for America >>> >>> 661.364.5186 >>> >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Dominic Lowell >>> >>> LGBT Outreach Director | Hillary for America >>> >>> 661.364.5186 >>> >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Dominic Lowell >>> >>> LGBT Outreach Director | Hillary for America >>> >>> 661.364.5186 >>> >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> <HRC DOMA.DOCX> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> Kristina Schake | Communications >> Hillary for America >> >> >> > > -- > Dominic Lowell > LGBT Outreach Director | Hillary for America > 661.364.5186 > [email protected] > > -- Kristina Schake | Communications Hillary for America