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[big campaign] Tracking Update: McCain Speech / Roundtable in Springfield, MO 06/18/08
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Hi all,
We did not have a tracker on the ground at this event, but we were able to
monitor it from streaming video. Below are our notes.*
*
Big Highlights
- A protester interrupted McCain's speech, yelling about $500,000 going
to Big Oil and 'stand up against the current administration.' McCain
responded that he's happy to take people's questions but Americans are tired
of people yelling at each other.
- Acknowledges the flooding, said he's going to be in IA tomorrow
- Says he voted against alternate energy bills because they were
temporary and "often the result of who had the best lobbyist instead of who
had the best ideas"
- Reasserts commitment against drilling in ANWR while encouraging states
to pursue offshore drilling
- Says Obama's using him support for offshore drilling to claim McCain's
Bush's 3rd term, but Obama voted for Bush's 2005 energy bill
- In speech, touts drilling in OCS as short-term solution, clean coal and
nuclear power as longer-term solution
- Roundtable topics: Coal-gassification and carbon-capturing;
accelerating nuclear plant construction through deregulation; carbon
sequestration; terrorist threats against oil pipelines
- Q&A topics: Short-term solutions to families; drilling in ANWR, Fair
Tax, earmarks, draft
Springfield, MO: McCain Speech and Roundtable 06/18/08
*(Disclaimer: *The following are notes, not direct quotes. If you'd like a
quotable transcript or video of any part below, please email us.)
Background Details
- Mike Nietzel, (Pres of MO State University) gave introductory remarks
- According to local news
reports<http://www.news-leader.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008806180516>,
seating limited to first 350 people (first-come, first-serve)
- McCain played with pen throughout roundtable.
- Roundtable members include:
- Moderator retired U.S. Marine Corps Gen. Jim Jones, president of the
Institute for 21st Century Energy
- Greg Boyce, CEO of the Peabody Energy Corporation
- Mike Chesser, CEO of Great Plains Energy
- Tammy Jahnke, dean of MSU's College of Natural and Applied Sciences
*Link to transcript of speech:*
http://thepage.time.com/mccains-remarks-at-springfield-missouri-event/
Speech highlights, not in prepared remarks
- At the beginning, says people in MO, IL, and IA are having trouble with
the floods. I'm going to be in IA tomorrow. They are showing prayers. Our
thoughts and prayers go out to them.
- Protester yells: $500,000 has gone to Big Oil. Stand up against the
current administration! (about 1/3 into remarks)
- McCain: I've heard this at other events. I would've told that man if
he'd let me finish that i'm happy to take his question.
Americans are tired
of us yelling at each other.
Roundtable Highlights:
- JAHNKE introduces herself and thanks McCain- we have $2.5M in federal
money for our programs.
- MCCAIN: So federal money is important to you?
- JAHNKE: yes.
- BOYCE: Thank you for your comprehensive view, in terms of long-term and
short-term problem of energy supply. We look at the problem from a global
scenario. There are people in poverty. Coal is a huge energy resource. Coal
is 85% of energy resource that we have in this country, so it's key for us.
We've probably missed 10 or 15 years of advancing clean coal technology, but
it's not too late. Your vision is critical to be able to change the energy
structures that we have.
- MCCAIN: Where are we technology-wise on coal-gassification?
- BOYCE: It's being used worldwide on an extensive scale. Not here
because we don't know have a facility and we don't know what a
plant of that
large scale would do. Right now we're caught up in
carbon-capturing system.
Not clear It would require regulation in terms of who permits
the storage,
who owns the aquifier that liquid carbon would be stored in, etc.
- MCCAIN: If early next year I could pass the legislation that you'd
need to move forward. How long til it could come to fruition on your end?
- BOYCE: We need permits. As soon as legislation in place, there's
construction. realistically, 3-5 year time frame on a fast track. The
technology exists. it's a matter of labor and design, construction of
large-scale industrial construciton. Good side is it's a new
manufacturing
jobs for people in this country.
- CHESSER: We think the demand for energy is going to grow in next 30
years, so the demand's going up. and the federal govt is going to be
critical in carbon sequestration and building these nuclear plants. My fear
is that we're going to go backwards to things like natural gas. No we should
accelerate forward to things like carbon sequestration. In the next 5-7
years, we're going to need to build a bridge to the future system. We can do
innovative things in the short-term but we're going to need a long-sighted
strategy.
- MCCAIN: Do you have nuclear facilities?
- CHESSER: Yes.
- MCCAIN: Plans to move forward?
- CHESSER : Yes. Sites that we're looking into. For smaller utilities,
we'd need to partner with others to build nuclear plants.
- MCCAIN: Impediments to move forward?
- CHESSER Biggest is financial security. We need a regulatory system
in place where we can earn the return and not have to wait. The
rising costs
of electricity are also increasing costs, so nuclear will be
more of a clear
and present choice.
- JONES: I first concentrated on energy as national security issue
(terrorists line of attack being to attack our energy supply) and as I got
into it, I realized it also impacts our economic security. What we're
talking about is going to materially affect future generations; it's not a
short-term problem. So we started an energy institute, the mission being to
grassroots educate people to make sure people understand the problem is
greater and broader than high gas prices at present. So we can stay on
economic playing-ground. We need to approach this like building the highway
system or going to the moon. There is optimism, but it's long-term, not
short-term; we need long-term strategic plans. Advocate change. Our
institute is taking us out to 2030 with a strategic plan to better harness
the supply and demand and still respect the enviro. National component-
unifying the supply sector, investing in R&D so we can bring in technology,
and to play a national leadership role in being part of the solution and not
the problem. We're going to have to rely more on diversity, efficiency
(private sector is doing good job at this), affordability, and apply our
role as world's leader in technology toward clean energy, steward on climate
change. We should be able to cut in half the 5 years it takes to get through
the regulatory scheme it must to build a nuclear plant.
- MCCAIN: Possible risk we face due to our dependency on foreign oil?
- JONES: Being over-dependent on one source is unwise strategy. Nixon
said never again will we be dependent on foreign oil so that we
would never
again face something like the gas crisis of the 1970s.
- MCCAIN: True that bin Laden has sent instructions to attack oil
facilities and they've made some attempts?
- JONES: Absolutely. Our debt going overseas to pay for this-- some of
this is coming back to haunt us, aka through terrorism. In our national
interest to decrease this dependence. There are solutions, they
are diverse.
We need to do more to assist the R&D, more people that are
dedicated to this
kind of engineering and science, and we need to have a long-term
attention
span on this.
Question and Answer
- 1 Q) Sara Craig (McCain asked her to speak because there'd been a
special request from her pre-event to ask the first question): All of us are
dealing with energy, causing financial crunches.(1) What are your plans as
Pres? (2) as a Sen, what are you going to do to help us now (today,
tomorrow, next week). Panel is talking about next 5, 10, 20 years. We're
hurting today. (3) What assurance can you give us that that will follow
through?
- MCCAIN: Will you give us some examples of challenges your family is
facing?
- Craig: My hubby and I are self-employed. I travel, he does
automotive repairs. When gas prices go up, business shuts down
for 2 weeks,
so people stop with auto repairs. My business is health and
wealthness and
sales--it's kind of luxury. with high prices, people buy only what they
need, so it's a major pay cut, and I can't take care of my family.
- MCCAIN: I asked you to elaborate because I think families everywhere
are facing teh same kind of challenges.
- Immediately, I would give you a little break at the pump, and
I've been derided for that. *A lot of this money from gas taxes
goes to wasteful, pork-barrel unnecessary spending. It's poor
people who
suffer from this. Economists say this will hurt the Highway Trust Fund
*. Well maybe we should stop building a bridge to nowhere that
costs $230Million in your tax funds.
- I would shame my Congress colleagues to stop wasteful spending,
and divert money into much-needed programs that would help. I
would do what
I can to restore trust and confidence in government. There
was a poll the
other day that showed 13% approval rating of Congress. We
should sit down in
bipartisan manner and concrete and positive fashion to address these
matters. I'd like to make sure that by balancing the budget,
we fix Social
Security and Medicare. But in the short term, we need some
relief-- maybe
another stimulus package. And other short-term measures for short-term
relief.
- 6 months ago, we would've been talking health care. But now it's
gas and energy and we don't know where it's gonna end up
(cites Russian oil
minister). We need to give Americans concrete plans with
concrete dates of
when we'll be independent of foreign oil or at least not so
dependent on its
whims.
- Also, I want to give you afforadble health care and fix NCLB.
Also, install training and education programs for displaced workers in
community colleges like htis.
- So I'd love to tell you there's some magic elixir. But it'll take
short-term relief and long-term proposals. And I'm sure I
could think of
more.
- McCain sees a ONE representative. Asks him to stand and talk about the
organization and ask a question. ONE person talks about organization (2.5
million volunteers).
- MCCAIN: Thanks for all you do. I hope this makes you feel a little
better.
- MCCAIN: We have challenges. we can beat them. We have to understand
the problems better and be leaders.
- MCCAIN: I might be biased, but I believe the country was in doldrums
before Reagan, but he said the best days are ahead of us and I
believe that.
- 2 Q) College students concerned about tuition rising. What're your
plans?
- MCCAIN: Student loans are vital for allowing people to receive a
quality education in America. I'm worried that the problems on economic
market would threaten availability of student loans. We need to have
governors make sure these are available. I'd like to see incentives to
reward service for this country with educational benefits, esp.
for military
service. Make sure people especially have more science, math and
technology
education. Also, fix NCLB, etc.
- 3 Q) Clayton Rothchild: Many of my youthful peers turning to Obama? How
do you plan to win this bloc?
- MCCAIN: (1) I congratulate him on winning the nomination. (2) I ask
my children and get a lot of advise and counsel on the
challenges they face,
what they're interested in, and how they communicate (Internet, Ipods--
young people not using the traditional means of info and
knowledge.) (3) I
go to their venues. (4) I promise them a safer and more
prosperous nation.
(5) And BTW, we have a website that's pretty good.
- 4 Q) Thanks for encouraging offshore drilling. What would have to
change for you to support going after oil in ANWR (safely and ecologically,
of course)? Becuase the more aggressive we become in showing we'll go after
our own oil, then they'll be afraid that the days of depending on their oil
is coming to an end.
- MCCAIN: I'd be glad to review changing my views based on changing
facts.* But I believe ANWR is a pristine place and I won't drill
there, just like I wouldn't drill if there were oil in Grand
Canyon. But we
should let states, esp. FL and CA, if they so decide, to pursue "offshore
exploration and exploitation,"* and I encourage them to do so.
- 5 Q) What about the rumors that Saudi Arabia can produce a barrel for
$2 but we pay $130? What can you do about it?
- MCCAIN: It's called a cartel and they are setting the price of oil-
artificially. (2) but also, two growing economies, China and India, are
upping their demand. We can't force other nations to change. But we can
become independent of Saudi oil and then then can do whatever
they want with
their oil. Most of the experts i've talked to said that the
Saudi promise to
increase their production are not going to have a big effect. We need to
maximize use of domestic oil supplies, increase independence, increase
imports from Mexico and Canada.
- 6 Q) Follow-up to question on ANWR (question 4): In terms of being
pristine, the Grand Canyon and ANWR don't seem to be on same scale. Under
what circumstances could we take advantage of it in an ecological manner to
get the oil that's there?
- MCCAIN: I don't see an ecological way to do this which is why I
oppose it. I am happy to look at new policies, but as of now I
don't see a
way to do it.
- 7 Q) International student: Thanks McCain for stance on national
security, but says post-9/11 they're being almost suffocated by regulations.
What plans do you ahve for international students and immigration as a
whole?
- MCCAIN: We need better technology so we can screen people, ideally
in their countries of origin. We need to balance need for
national security
with programs that work for allowing students to come over and/or to work
here (legally) to contribute to our country. After 9/11 this has
gotten more
difficult, but we can do it.
- 8 Q) Jeff Parnell, running for Congress. I'm a sponsor-supporter of
Fair Tax. Have you looked at Fair Tax and what are your thoughts?
- MCCAIN I've looked at it and read articles, e.g. in WSJ. We have to
come up with Alternate Tax System. We all know we need a fairer, flatter
tax: two tax rates with generous deductions.
- 9 Q) How do you plan on getting funding without raising taxes on the
little people?
- MCCAIN: By restraining spending. I voted against Part D because it
was an unfunded liability on you. You would be paying for my
prescriptions,
is that fair? Need a president who will wield the veto pen, who will make
earmarkers famous. The* last bill the Pres signed had a ton in earmark
spending.* I'm not opposing the projects, but the process. *People say
that's not enough; but it's a heck of a start.*
- 10 Q) Mother of 2 Marines-- I'd love to see someone like Gen. Jones as
a VP. And what's your stance on the draft?
- MCCAIN: Gen. Jones has served with honor and courage. I don't
believe in the draft. I think we've got the best military, most
efficient,
most skilled. And it takes a long time to train the military, esp. given
'the type of fighting we're doing, which by the way, is
ferocious.' And my
experience in 'Nam-- it's the poorest who are hit hardest by the draft.
- 11 Q) How and if we're going to address the imbalances we have
vis-a-vis the rest of the world. We give out all this money and then we
forgive their loans when they can't pay it, and then we have this huge debt.
- MCCAIN: A lot of the money that we give doesn't leave the US.
There's some that we give for great programs, e.g. to fight
HIV/AIDS. But a
lot of money is wasted or misspent. I will scrub every one of
these programs
so they do what they were designed to do. Every agency of govt
will have to
sit down and tell us what their budget it, their mission, their
end-of-the-year goals, and if they don't do it, then we'll put
them out of
business by the end of the year.
- 12 Q) You're the driver of the Straight Talk Express and you don't
believe in pandering. But you've been accused of flip-flopping Bush tax
cuts, a lot of which go to the wealthy. (1) Why do you feel like this policy
is best for hard-working, middle-class Americans, (2) how do you plan to pay
for it?
- MCCAIN: Those tax cuts are in effect today and I don't want to raise
taxes. Obama wants to raise taxes, incl. capital gains taxes that will
affect 100 million Americans.
- MCCAIN: The problem's not tax revenues, but spending. Obama voted
for the energy bill that was a Xmas tree for corporations. I
don't want to
raise taxes. It's a fact that every time we've dropped taxes,
there's been
an increase in revenue--going back to JFK. We need to keep taxes low.
- I have to go. Thanks for being here. Thanks the panel for doing a great
job. Missouri is going to be a battleground. I'll be back and back and back,
I'm asking for your vote.
--
Sara DuBois
Deputy Director - Tracking/Media Monitoring
Progressive Media USA
[email protected]
202-609-7681 (office)
410-967-7306 (cell)
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