RE: CLIP | NBC's Nightly News, Bernie Sanders Interview with Lester Holt, Chuck Todd Commentary

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What’s your bar for success in Iowa? Sanders: “WINNING” *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Batul Contractor *Sent:* Wednesday, January 27, 2016 6:44 PM *To:* HRCRR <[email protected]> *Subject:* CLIP | NBC's Nightly News, Bernie Sanders Interview with Lester Holt, Chuck Todd Commentary *NBC’s Nightly News, 1.27.16.* Link: http://mms.tveyes.com/PlaybackPortal.aspx?SavedEditID=9bf31a68-8460-4177-9077-fe8d72f5d0b5 Rough Transcript: *LESTER HOLT: *all right, katy, thanks. with democrats hillary clinton and bernie sanders days away from their showdown in iowa, sanders was here in washington, d.c., specifically the white house, where he met with president obama. it's a meeting planned weeks ago. i caught up with senator sanders right after his oval office chat, and he told me their conversation covered domestic and foreign policy issues and, yes, politics. *BERNIE SANDERS:* it was a private conversation so i'm not going to get into it but i think if there's anybody in the world who understands what campaigning in iowa and new hampshire is about and in putting together just an extraordinary grass roots movement that took them to victory, that is barack obama. *LESTER HOLT:* a few days ago the president speaking to politico seemed to be speaking in glowing terms about secretary clinton, her leadership, her depth of experience. *POTUS: *she can start here day one, more experienced than any non-vice president has ever been who aspires to this office. *LESTER HOLT:* some people say he was tipping his thumb on the scale in her favor. did you sense that? *BERNIE SANDERS:* nope. i didn't – *LESTER HOLT:* were you bothered *BERNIE SANDERS:* nope, i wasn't. but i read the interview, and i thought he was very even-handed. i think there are some people who spun it this way. *LESTER HOLT: *what's your bar for success in iowa? *BERNIE SANDERS:* winning. *LESTER HOLT: *number one. *BERNIE SANDERS: *yeah. i mean, i think that we have worked really hard. we started off in iowa later than secretary clinton did, but in the last number of months we have put together an incredible volunteer effort. we have 15,000 volunteers, and let me tell -- be very clear about this, lester. caucus night in iowa, you will be able to tell very early, i think, who wins and who loses. if there is a large voter turnout, we're going to win. *LESTER HOLT:* if you come in second place, what does that mean for the rest of your campaign? *BERNIE SANDERS:* it means that we came in second place in iowa and we're off on the run into new hampshire to try to win there. *LESTER HOLT: *but is it disappointing? would be it crushing and get you off your game? *BERNIE SANDERS:* at the end of the day in terms of delegate selection, if you get 52% or 48% it will mean very few delegates. psychologically obviously it's northern. *LESTER HOLT: *word on the street you've got a lot of ad dollars you'll be buying on television. are you going to be going directly at hillary clinton? are you going to turn negative? *BERNIE SANDERS:* no, no, no. we differentiate ourselves from secretary clinton every single day. that is what a campaign is about. *LESTER HOLT:* let's talk about the significance of your campaign. president obama, the first african-american president. hillary clinton could become the first female president. not a lot has been talked about the fact that you would become the oldest and the first jewish president. is that something you reflect on and think about? *BERNIE SANDERS:* sure, i do. thank god i am in good health and as a former long distance runner, was a pretty good miler when i high school, did a little running in college, my endurance is strong. in terms of my religion, i'm very proud of my jewish background, and it has had a significant influence on me. *LESTER HOLT:* and one more note from our interview. the new hampshire union leader is hosting a debate next week that will air on msnbc. hillary clinton said today that she's in and we asked bernie sanders if he's in as well. he said he wasn't ready to commit because he wants to expand on that plan and add additional debates to the schedule as well, so stay tuned there. *LESTER HOLT:* want to bring in right now our political director, the moderator of "meet the press" chuck todd. chuck, let's go back to donald trump for a moment. is there a hidden strategy perhaps in him refusing to debate and obvious question could it backfire? *CHUCK TODD:* well, look, always a chance could backfire. iowans could be offended by the idea, but here's where it could be a shrewd move. look, debates haven't been donald trump's best moments. the most recent debate was probably list best debate but that's grading a little bit on a curve. he's been fine, not collapsed, but debates only matter to the voters if somebody has a disastrous performance, so here's why it could be a shrewd move. trump not being there. no way he can make a mistake and say the wrong thing, but guess what could happen? his chief rival in iowa ted cruz, after five minutes of bashing donald trump for being there, what do you think the rest of the candidates are going to do? are they going to continue going after donald trump or piling on ted cruz and who benefits more from that, donald trump? this could end up being a very shrewd move by the front-runner. *LESTER HOLT:* all right. chuck, thanks very much. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "HRCRR" group. 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