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From: Gino Yu
To: "jeffrey E." <[email protected]>
Subject: Re:
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 13:35:33 +0000
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Yes!
The issue, as I mentioned to you before is 2nd person experience. Its like Jazz. If you get a 4 amazing jazz
musicians together for the 1st time, you get amazing jazz. If you get 4 crappy jazz musicians together, you get
crappy jazz. 2nd person methodologies are needed. A lot of it involves inner work. Have a few other
experiments to share and will have more after a meeting in Beijing on Dec 15th. Would love your insights into
experiments and protocol design. Rigour will involve developing the proper experimental protocols, identifying
individuals with abilities, and developing a theory / framework to validate and make predictions.
I'll reach out to Deepak.
Masha and Joscha are not in the space, but I classify Joscha as a "high stage 2" and Masha as "stage 3" (lab rats).
Both have deep insights (Joscha) and special abilities (Masha - intuition). In fact, most people you deal with are
high stage-2 and stage 3 people. The community I envisage (and "project icari" that I wrote to you about before)
would be to work on providing a support group for the people you are currently supporting and mentoring. This
would push into what I was talking to you about regarding the metaphysical (e.g., passport in France),
coincidence, synchronicity, and Nature... in the spirit of the phusikoi who were the ones that invented western
science and philosophy back when science, philosophy, and spirituality were essentially the same thing:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Socraticjhilosophy.
It may also provide you with insights into how and why things happen for you as they do (to respond rather than
all the reactionary work that you seem to be doing).
How did Noah do?
Other than the Cuba conference, I haven't yet spent any of the monies you committed to last year. In fact, I am
out of pocket for the Vive and visits, etc. I am looking to you as a partner to develop this. If done right, it will
support itself. Current academic research schemes do not fund stuff like what we are talking about. The main
thing I am asking for is a developmental budget.
gino
PS. I've attached my slides to the talk I gave on personal development, mental health, and human potential.
On 13 Nov 2017, at 8:02 AM, jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wrote:
alwasys fun. howvefr as you saw for yourself. ed had no effect on anyone new. ? shame. I suggest you find
elon that was in stuarts confence with deepak. so far the only one but might have been a trick
a list of univerestied publications and proejcts that are attempting to do things in this space. .
rigor applied to arguments of physiology vs phenomenology. . experements. . I have some inmind .
masga and joshca are not in this space , nor should they be , they have computational work to do
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no worry about money , i will fund anything rigorus and meangiful
On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 7:57 AM, Gino Yu < > wrote:
Hi Jeffrey,
Thanks for your time yesterday.
Would love to continue our conversation. If I stayed here in NYC for another 2 days, would you have time?
I could also see if Stephan could bring the Vive up to setup at your place. Otherwise, can we meet in Paris in
Jan? I can try to get Alain Forget there for you to meet (if you haven't already). Alain is the subject that
Peter uses for his studies.
Briefly where we were was:
I) The "Evolving caravan" and events to identify scientists and people with special abilities (more subjects
for research).
2) Research methodologies and experiments that stand up to rigour (network of labs and researchers around
the world, common protocols, Ideally you can also support Peter who is part of this, etc.). 2nd person
research methodologies (we haven't talked about this). I am seeing NYU and Columbia University faculty
later today to talk about this.
3) "Polystery" for rehabilitating "stage 3" people (examples like Edd who have gifts, but are not able to
support themselves). Have a sustainable model for this. Also supports (1). Builds community and eco-
system.
Would like to build a global network. We didn't even talk about China and work there or Cuba.
Would like to apply the 60-75k allocated from last year to pilot some of this. Wanted to see if we could
establish some metrics that could lead to more funding if we are successful.
The benefits to you are:
I) More interesting people to meet.
2) Helping to develop a theory of development and human potential.
3) Advancing knowledge and experimental methodologies (e.g., 2nd person methodologies).
4) Adds a new dimension to the interests that you already have in music, language, and psychology.
5) Provide services that are unique for the community of people that you know (e.g., high stage 2, low stage
3 people). There are new models such as the initial proposition I made to you last year (collaborating on
developing a service to "shift" people that are unhappy.
6) Potentially build a community of people that can do amazing things together (Joscha, Masha, etc.) that
can also provide support for (4).
gino
P.S.
To refresh the model: https://photos.google.corn/share/AFIQipOBQa4z8TRJ7B0XwvassIgeBX
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PPS
AK SP 1000: https://www.head-fkorg/threads/new-tol-a-k-dap-the-ak-ultima-spl 000.850061/. If we could
set up a side budget for me to get things that I think you'd like, I'm more than happy to get you one and load
it up with music.
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On 12 Nov 2017, at 11:26 AM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation®gmail.com> wrote:
12 30 please running late
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