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1 IN THE CIRCUIT COURI VI rill FIFIEENTH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT
TN AND FOR PALM BEACH COUNTY, FLORIDA
2 stArt OF FLORIDA
3 STATE OF FLORIDA,
4 vs.
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JEFFREY EPSTEIN,
6 Defendant.
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17 rransillbed by:
vicki S. woodham. court. Reporter
18 Notary Public, State of rlorida
concur & Associates
19 1655 Palm Beach lakes Boulevard, Suite 500
West Palm 'Peach, florida 33401
20 Phone - 561.682.0N05
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(Taped statement as follows:)
7 AGENT RICHARDS: this is Special Agent Jason
RiChards with the fnt along with Special Agent
4 Nesbit Kirkendul and Assistant united StAteS
5 Attorney Marie eilafonia here to conduct an
6 interview with ms. a Also present is
7 her attorney, Jim Eisenberg and Carrie Sheehan.
8 MR. EISENOFRG: And we are here -- This is Jim
9 FiSenbcrg and my investigator. Ms. Sheehan is here,
10 And we're here pursuant to a suhpuena that was
11 served on me for TIIMM and that's why we're
12 here. So Ms. eilafonia. it's your show.
13 MS. B1LAFONTA: Okay, treat.
14 AGENI RICUARDS: I also want to add that the
15 dale is 4-24-07. and the time by my watch is 4:21
16 p.m.
17 St AGENT RICHARDS:
IR Q. Tatum, we just wail to start off and lead
1!) off first. we just want to get some basic info about
20 you, simple stuff. I've gut your date of birth aS
21 7.26-68: is that correct?
22 A. Yes. sir.
23 Q. I just want to yet like your hasics like that
24 stuff first. your current address?
25 A. Royal Palm Beach,
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1 33411.
2 Q. You have a cell phone or --
3 A. 561
4 Q. And home phone?
S A. only cell.
6 Q. Only cell, okay. Now have you had other cell
7 phone numbers in the past and do you know any of those?
a A. S that'S the only one I can remember.
9 Q. Okay. But you had some others?
10 A. uh-huh.
It Q. Okay.
12 BY N.S. RIIAFONIA:
13 Q. who's your service provider?
1.4 A. metro.
15 Q. Metro. And for that other number as well?
16 A. Yes.
17 BY AGCHT elCumtps:
16 Q. Where did you go to high school?
19 A.
70 Q. And what year did you graduate?
21 A. 7 dropped out in eleventh.
72 Q. what year was that that you dropped out , do you
23 remember?
24 A. No.
25 0. what year were you supptrNed w 0raduate, your
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2 A. '06.
3 Q. Okay.
4 A. I had got my GPO.
5 Q. when did you get thar?
6 A. About three months ago.
7 0. And are you going to college anywhere
currently?
tl A. Not right now.
10 Q. Plans?
11 A. I have plans.
12 (IV MS. SILAFONIA:
ti Q. Where are you thinking about going?
14 A, III not positive what I want to do. There's a
15 lot of things on my mind, but right now III focusing on
16 my son. T have a two year old so right now III just
17 working.
IX AGENT RICHARDS: Ne i n a handful?
lg THE WITNESS: Yeah.
20 AGENT RICHARDS: I have one. tou.
11 THE WITNESS: Yeah. So in the future. I'm
22 definitely going to go to college. I'm going
23 definitely going to go to school. Rut I have, you
24 know, a modeling career gOing on right now that's
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hopefully going to -- some o you will notice me,
1 hopefully, and that would be great, but 1 don't
7 know.
3 BY MS. BILAFUNIA:
4 Q. Where else are you working?
S A. T work for Advanced Cleaning Systems. They
6 clean carpets.
7 AGENT RICHARDS: Advanced what WAS it?
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System cleaning.
10 Q. And where are they located?
11 A. tas Palmas, 11 Swanee, S-w-a-n -e-e, swin.
17 Drive.
11 O. Are you working in an office there or do you go
14 out to people's homes?
IS A. I work in an office there.
16 BY AGrNT RICHAB0S:
17 Q. Obviously, you know why we're here and what we
IS want in talk about. So let me just kind of lead into do
19 You know Jeffrey Epstein?
70 A. Yes.
71 Q. Tec, of course, you do. NOW when did you meet
22 Jeff? Does he go by Jeff or Jeffrey or
23 A. Jeffrey.
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14 O. Okay. when did you meet. him and who introduced
25 you ro )effrev?
A. My girlfriend, Carolyn. introduced me to
7 Jeffrey.
3 Q. Do you know her last name?
4 A. NO. she was a friend of one of my friends, so
5 7 really didn't know her.
6 BY MS. BILAIONIA:
7 Q. when was that?
8 A. t really couldn't tell you. T don't even
9 remember. It's been so long ago.
10 BY AGEN7 RICHAKOS:
11 O. So Carolyn introduced you to him, was it at a
12 party setting or how did you guys meet?
13 A. NO. She came to me and she said hey, would you
14 like to make a couple dollars and I said sure. I said
15 doing what? She said, well. I know this 'Jeffrey. lie
16 lives on Palm Beach island and I bring girls there and he
17 likes massages and 1 was like okay. So T asked her, t
18 said well, what about. my age? And she said well, just
19 make sure that you tel l him that you're 18. And I had a
20 fake IP at the time and we went there.
71 Q. okay. And about what time period was it that
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23 A. what t ime period?
'14 Q. Yes. A5 tar 35 what year was that that you
75 were in :school?
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1 A. I WAS 16.
1 Q. Sixteen.
3 BY MS. BILArONIA:
4 Q. were you a freshman or a sophomore, do you
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remember?
A. 1 couldn't roll you. couldn't tell you
7 Probably a sophomore.
K 0. Now you said that carolyn told you that he
9 likes massages. Did she elaborate on what types of
10 massages?
11 A. She sometimes he likes topless massages,
12 but you don't have to do anything you don't want to do.
13 He just likes massages.
14 O. And de you know whether Carolyn had given him
15 M41504.JCS?
16 A. Yeah, she said she's done it before.
17 Q. And do you know whether Carnlyn had taken Any
IS other qirIS Over CO see Jeffrey?
19 A. Y0S, She probably did.
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20 Q. Did she cell how much you wuuld make?
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21 A. yes.
22 Q. what did she tell you?
71 A. we go there and we make 5100 in 30 minutes.
24 Q. NOW you said that you asked her, you know, what
25 do I need to be worried about my aye. why did you ask
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1 her that?
2 A. Because 1 don't want to be -- you know. it was
3 like I was underaye and I was young and 1 was pretty
stupid and I didn't want to yet -- t didn't want to get
S in trouble, SO T always made sure -- I had a fake ID,
6 anyways, saying that I was 18. And she just said make
7 sure you're 18 because Jeffrey doesn't want any underage
girls,
9 BY AGENT RICHARDS:
10 Q. NOW Carolyn. did she -- where did you meet her
11 at? In school? what setting?
12 A. T was at a friend's house, my girlfriend's
13 house. I don't know what girlfriend':; house it was.
14 Everybody was just hanging out. And she said -- she came
15 up to me and she asked me. She said, do you want to make
16 a couple bucks and I said sure.
17 0. And atter the first time ihat she took you over
IX there to meet Mr. Epstein. did she ever call you again to
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20 A. NV.
21 Q. Did she ever call you un the phone is what ■
77 asking?
73 A. NO. T gave Jeffrey my number. And I said, you
24 know, any time you want me to give you A massage again,
2S I'll more than welcome to.
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1 BY MS. BILAFONTA:
2 Q. SO Carolyn took you that first rime, hut then
3 after that you communicated directly with Jeffrey?
4 A. uh-huh.
5 Q. Tell us about that first time that you went to
6 his house, who • - how did you get there?
7 A. One of Carolyn's friends and they dropped us
8 off and then we went. You know, we got escorted up to
9 the massage room and he told me everything. de said,
10 Listen. I like massages. And we had the whole massage
11 table laid out, the lotions and everything. And she was
17 In there for the first like five minutes. And the first
13 time I gave him a massage. the left the room and 1 gave
14 him a massage. And she told me. .The says he likes women
15 topless massages. so .t willingly the first time took off
16 my lop I gave him a massage and nothing more than
that. It was just a hack massage and neck MA%%491. And 7
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18 WEIS Out of there.
19 Q. okay. let me just ask you a rouplr of
70 tol low-op questions. You said that someone escoried you
21 up to the room. Do ynu know who that was?
22 A. One of -- what's her name? Actually, Sara,
23 Sara just said, you know, it's up there and she just told
24 me where it was.
25 O. And then you said that you and Carolyn went
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1 upstairs together?
A. Uh-huh.
3 Q. And carolyn stayed in there for the first tew
4 minutes?
S A. tlh-huh.
6 Q. was 3effrey already in the room by the time
7 Carolyn left?
8 A. Yeah, he was in the room.
l) O. Okay. was he there when you guys showed up in
10 the room or did he come in after you were already there?
1] A. He was in the room already.
12 O. And you said that you took your top off. pid
13 anybody ask you to take it ott. like did Carolyn say WA
14 time for you to take it off?
15 A. No, she wasn't in the room.
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16 O. Ky the time you took it off, okay.
17 A. 1 said, i told ieffrey. I heard you like
18 massages topless. And he's like, yeah, he said, but you
19 don't have to do anything that you don't reel comfortable
20 with. And t said okay, but I willingly took it off.
21 Q. Okay. And during that rirst massage, you said
22 thar you gave him a shoulder and neck massage?
23 A. Neck, back, shoulder, yeah.
24 U. Was he face down the entire time that he got
25 his massage?
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1 A. Yeah.
2 q. And what did you do during the massage? Did
3 you talk or -
4 A. Yeah, we talked.
S 9. And what would you talk about with him?
6 A. Well, we were just getting to know each other.
7 we Iai about how my lifestyle was, what he did fur a
8 living and just all positive things, really nice things.
9 q. Okay. what was he wearing when you first came
10 in the room?
II A. I'm sorry. when he first -- when he first came
12 in the room, he was fully clothed. And then he said, you
13 know, wait a second. I'm going to go on the massage
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1S masseuse would do.
16 Q. Did he undress and put a towel around him?
17 A. uh huh.
18 O. okay.
19 A. Yeah, I didn't see anything. It was just back,
20 neck and shoulders.
21 Q. And after the massage was over. you received
22 the $200?
23 A. lit gives money right away.
24 Q. III sorry. was that before you started the
2S massage or after the massage he gave you?
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1 A. The first time, he gave me the money right
2 away.
3 U. okay. And he's the person that paid you the
4 $200?
5 A. No, it's always Sara.
6 G. Sara gave you the money?
7 A. Uh-huh.
8 BY AGENT itict-lxkos:
9 Q. what's Sara's last name, do you know?
10 A. I don' t know.
11 Mk. EISENBERG! You can't look at papers. At
12 you think you know, you know. If you don't know, --
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13 THE WITNESS: No, I don't know. I don't know
14 sara's last name. HQ does.
15 BY MS. 8ILAFONIA:
16 Q. okay. The only thing III confused about is you
12 said that sara didn't even take you upstairs. She just
18 told you where you should go?
19 A. oh-huh.
20 Q. SO when did she pay you the money?
21 A. She paid me then and there when I first walked
77 in the door, me and Carolyn.
23 BY AGENT. RICHAIWS:
24 Q. she paid you before you went upstairs?
25 A. Yes.
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2 Q. And how much was Carolyn paid?
3 A. Everybody got paid 5200.
4 Q. And after -- so after the Ilssage was finished,
you said that you had already been paid. who asked you
6 for your name and telephone number?
7 A. Jeffrey said, well. III like to see you again.
Can I have your number? From what I remember. III pretty
9 sure he asked me for my numher and T gave him my number.
10 Q. Okay.
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12 Q. Did he write it down upstairs? He had a pen
13 handy. I hope?
14 A. Uh-huh.
IS MY Ms. ATLAFONIA:
t6 Q. on that first massage, you said that you worked
12 on him topless. Nut when you first started, did you take
18 -- what were you wearing?
19 A. 1 was wearing a shirt. a normal shirt and
20 jeans. And I started to do a massage and I said well, I
21 heard you like topless massages. And, of course, he
2> thought I was 18. And he's like yeah. T do. I prefer
23 that. And who wouldn't, you know? So I said okay and I
74 took it off.
75 Q. And you took oft your bra as well?
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A. VQS.
2 Q. And you left your jeans on?
3 A. Yes.
4 Q. Okay. So you gavr him a massage. Did he
request you do anything sprrial in the massage?
6 A. NO.
7 Q. And he never turned over in that first massage?
A. NO.
9 Q. SO you said that that day you gave your name
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10 and number to Jettrey. when was your next cnritaCt from
11 him or anybody who worked fur him?
1/ A. The next day, he had called me and he said
13 would like to come out again and t'd like to see you
14 again. I said sure. 1 Wok a taxi there and 7 went
15 there again.
16 Q. The FOllOwing day,
17 A. The next day.
18 Q. okay. And you said that Jeffrey is the person
19 who called you for that appointment?
20 A. NO. Jeffrey did not, no. Sara. Sara actually
21 cal led me. ream what 11 remember, Sara actual ly cal led
12 in.:.
Q. okay. And she said Jeffrey says he wants to
21 5ee you again?
25 A. Yes.
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I O. And then you said you took a taxi?
A. Yes.
Q. Is that huw you would normally got to and tram
4 his house?
5 A. uh-huh, if 1 didn't have friends because 1
6 don't drive, yeah.
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9 Carolyn took you over? Did she get a taxi?
10 A. NO, our friend came back and picked us up.
11 Q. which friend was that?
17 A. nis name was Brian. I don't know his last
14 name. t really didn't know Carolyn and I didn't know her
14 friends or whatever, but I met Jeffrey. And once I met
1S Jeffrey, he was a very awesome guy and t just -- I don't
16 know. I ended up giving him my number so r could --
17 didn't want Carolyn ur Brian to drive me anymore. I
18 would rather go to him on my own.
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70 Q. when you would take the taxis to and from,
21 would he III for them?
11. A. Uh-huh.
23 Q. And he would pay when you arrived?
21 A. uh-huh.
25 Q. And then he would just oive you extra money
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1 when you left to pay for the taxi?
2 A. No, nn. I never asked him for extra money, so
3 lt just paid for my own taxi.
4 Q. okay. So From the money that he paid you for
5 the massage?
A. two hundred, yeah.
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7 Q. where were you living at the timcY
8 A. I was living at
9 located on Okeechobee. so I would take, you know,
10 straight Okeechobee down to where I lived.
11 Q. Ou you remember about how much that taxi faro
12 w45 each way?
13 A. Twenty dollars.
t4 Q. And did you always use the same taxi service
15 or
16 A. Ho, 1 used different taxis all the time. so --
17 Q. And you would just call and have them come to
18 your house?
19 A. Uh-huh. I used a whole bunch of different
70 taxis, whatever is available.
21 Q. SO you mentioned that the second massago, was
22 it any different than the first one?
23 A. Yes.
24 Q. How was it different?
75 A. When x went there, I went there by myself. And
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1 1 went up to the massage room and Jeffrey was just like
2 regular like he was before on his stomach and he had a
3 towel over and we started the massage and I had my top
4 off willingly. And after the massage. he asks me the
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6 this and I said yes and he turned around. And this was
7 like at the end of the massage. our 30-minutes massage.
X usually it was even shorter than that. And he
9 masturbated at the end of the massage and it was like two
10 seconds and 1 was just tool'''.
11 Q. And when he turned over, then did he touch you
12 at all or was he just --
13 A. NO. I did not touch him. He did not touch me.
14 we didn't even want --
15 Q. Yott didn't like continue the massage while he
16 was masturbating or anything?
17 A. NO.
IS Q. Okay. T rut you off. YOu said he didn't even?
19 A. He didn't want me to touch him and he didn't
20 touch me at all.
21 O. Did he ever ask you to rub his chest or rub his
22 nipples during the massage?
23 A. Actually. later on because I saw him For a
24 long time. tater on. I asked him. you know, and I asked
25 him -- 1 would give him -- you know, I would rub his
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1 chest or whatever and massage him while he was
masturbating. yeah.
Q. So eventually you would continue the massage
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4 and he would masturbate at the same time?
5 A. Yeah. but it wasn't on his lower area.
6 Q. no, you never touched his penis?
7 A. Right.
8 Q. Okay. so that was during the second massage.
9 You were paid 5200 again?
IQ A. Always.
11 Q. Always? Every time you went there?
12 A. Always.
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14 0. was it always Sara that paid you?
15 A. sometimes Jeffrey would and sometimes Sara
16 would.
17 BV MS. B1LAIONIA:
/8 Q. was it usually before or after the massage?
19 A. After the first time, it was always after. I
20 would go downstairs and t'd get paid.
21 Q. So just sort of tell us, when a massage ended.
22 which I assume was after he ejaculated?
23 A. it wasn't all the time that he did, though.
24 0. Okay.
25 A. It wasn't like every time we went there he
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3 Q. okay. But when the massage was over however it
4 ended, you would just get dressed and yo downstairs by
S yourself or did take you downstairs?
6 A. Yeah. the chef would make us food and it'd be
7 great. And Jeffrey would get dressed and he'd come down
with us sometimes or, you know, it wasn't -- we had fun.
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rt was all positive.
In Q. okay. mow many massages do you think that you
11 gave Jeffrey?
12 A. 1 gave Jeffrey a lot of macsaqvc r can't tell
13 you. I saw him fur a good year.
14 Q. And how many times -- would you see him weekly
Is or more than once a week?
A. yeah.
17 Q. More than once a week?
18 A. I personally would or I'd bring girls.
19 Q. okay. But either you would or either a girl
20 that you brought?
21 A. Yeah, uh ,huh.
12 Q. Okay.
23 A. But after a while. it wasn't me anymore. I had
24 brought girls, but t got paid $200 to bring girls.
25 Q. okay. so let's talk lust about when you were
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1 performing the massages. what other sorts of things
2 would happen? You said that sometimes he would just like
3 his feet massaged. what case would happen during those
4 massage sessions?
S A. Nothing. everything I told you.
6 Q. Okay. So sometimes a back massage?
7 A. sometimes he liked back massages. sometimes he
8 like feet massages. Sometimes he like his head massaged.
9 He liked his head massaged a lot . sometimes leg
10 massages, yeah. And it wasn't every time that we went
11 there he masturbated.
I? Q. okay. Any idea half and half or less than half
13 the time that he masturbated?
14 A. Less the time he masturbated.
IS Q. Did you always perform topless? Did you ever
16 get completely naked towards the end or in the middle and
17 remove all of your clothing?
18 A. I Would wear panties. willingly one time
19 because we were making jokes and everything and willingly
20 one time I had, yes, I was totally nude, but t was fine
21 with it.
22 O. okay.
23 A. Totally fine with it.
14 Q. And how did that massage go?
25 A. Actually, it was a foot massage and he was
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sitting on the couch. we didn't even have the massage
2 'able out and I gave him a Foot rub and I was nude.
3 Q. And how much were you paid Fur that?
4 A. Two hundred every single time.
5 Q. Did he at any point kiss you. touch you, show
6 any kind of affection towards you?
7 A. Never, never.
8 Q. okay.
9 RV AGENT alCilARDS:
AO Q. why not?
11 A. why not? why would he?
12 Q. you seem like a nice young lady, attractive.
13 He never had any urges to --
14 A. I asked him, 1 said, when are you going to get
IS married? when arc you going to get married, :Jeffrey? He
16 said, I'm never getting married. He has, you know.
17 beautiful women all the time. why would he -- no,
18 huh-uh.
19 BY MS. RILAFONIA:
20 Q. He never pulled you closer to him in a sexual
21 way?
27 A. I wish. no, no. never, ever, ever, no, never.
23 3effrey is an awesome man, no.
74 Q. Okay. Now you said that at some point you
25 started bringing other girls over?
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1. A. Oh-huh.
2 Q. now did that start?
3 A. we likes to see different faces.
4 f). so he asked you if you had friends that you
5 could bring over or other girls?
6 A. uh-huh.
7 Q. And how did you decide who you would ask to
S come over?
9 A. All of my good-looking girlfriend% and if ihvy
10 had friends. It's all about, you know, we were just
11 making money and Jeffrey is an awesome guy. we just, you
12 know -- I would tell my girlfriends just like Carolyn
approached me. make sure you tel l him you're 18. well,
14 these girls that 1 brought, I know that they were 18 or
18 19 or 20. And the ()iris that t didn't know and T don't
16 know it they were lying or not, 1 would say make sure
17 that you tell him you're IS.
18 Q. okay. what exactly would you tell them about
19 what would happen after you got to the house?
20 A. I said he likes massages, but he prefers
21 topless massages. BUT if you're nut comfortable, then
)2 don't do it and it won't matter.
23 O. And did any of them tell you what happened
24 after that?
25 A. Always, always, I even asked them.
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1 O. Okay. And with the other girls, was it the
2 same as what you did or different?
3 A. Yeah, yeah. t mean, well. I was more willingly
4 to do more. you know. Like I said, I went nude for him
5 one time. But the other girls. they practically were
6 topless and that's all that they were willing to do.
7 some girls didn't want to go topless and Jeffrey didn't
8 mind.
9 Q. were there girl!: that you brought back multiple
JO times?
11 A. A couple, a couple, but he really liked to see
12 different faces.
13 Q. okay. I'm just wondering are there some girls
14 he really liked and others he didn't like or did he have
15 any preferences in terms of blondes, brunettes?
16 A. He liked girls like me.
17 O. Okay. Thin and attractive?
18 A. t guess. yeah. very attractive women. And he
19 didn't say girls. He said women all the time.
20 Q. Did you ever briny anybody he didn't care for?
Zl A. Huh-uh.
22 Q. Yeah?
23 A. Yeah.
24 Q. now was she different than the others?
ZS A. Black. I screwed up.
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1 Q. How did you know you screwed up?
A. He doesn't like black women, obviously.
3 Q. So he let you know? He told you that?
4 A. Yeah, bur he was still nice and he still gave
5 her her 200 even though he didn't even have a massage by
6 her.
7 Q. How did he he paid you 5200 for bringing
8 ';4th girl?
9 A. Uh-bug.
IQ Q. And when he told you that. I mean, that's what
11 he told you that he would III you 5200 for bringing the
12 girls?
13 A. Yeah. He said if you bring me -- if you bring
14 me girls, I'll definitely, you know, give you money,
1S compensate you for your time and willing to do that for
16 me, yeah.
17 Q. And you said at that point you stopped
18 performing massages for him?
19 A. At that point. 1 didn't -- it would he
20 sporadically like. Usually. I had so many girlfriends at
21 the time that. you know, there were some new Faces to be.
22 saw. And if no one was avai lable. then T would go.
23 Q. I got you.
24 A. SO --
25 Q. po you know some of the girls that you brought,
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1 some of the their names?
2 A. 1 don't remember, really. They were like not
even friends. They were just associates, you know. If
4 anything. be friends of friends, so no.
5 Q. We have -- I don't know. We have some messages
6 I guess that some girls' names that would call Jeffrey
7 and leave a massage. There's some girls names that are
8 referenced. we were just wondering if you knew them?
9 A. If you name them. T can probably remember.
10 MS. BILAIONIA: Jason, do you have that?
11 BY AGENT RICHARDS:
12 Q. V is one.
13 A. I don't know v_. OO you know her lint
14 name?
15 MS. BILAFONTA: we were hoping you did.
16 °rue WITNESS: No, X don't.
17 DV AGENT RICHARDS:
18 Q.
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