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From: Lawrence Krauss Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 9:32 PM To: Jeffrey E. Subject: Re: Hello--CONFIDENTIAL will =hink on this.. I don't want to have to go to the next =evel if I can help it. financially and otherwise. Lawrence M. Krauss Professor School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics =epartment Arizona State University, P.O. Box =71404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404 Research Office: Assistant (Jessica): On Aug 22, 2018, at 2:30 PM, jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wrote: 1 i think the concilation commitee makes the =ecision. if you can reopen then isnt it better =o keep amber heard to yourself incase you lose than you can say =ew info? On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 5:24 PM, =awrence Krauss wrote: This is the only chance I get to have the president review =his case.. He needs to see that a large part of the substance of =t is incorrect. . Moreover, since complainants are allowed to have the =ase reopened as many times as they wish after a determination is made =f they claim to have new evidence or disagree with its findings, a =efusal to consider this evidence as part of my appeal is further =rounds for discrimination. Lawrence M. =rauss Professor School of Earth & Space =xploration and Physics Department Arizona State =niversity, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404 Research Office: Assistant (Jessica) I twitter.com/Ikraussl I www.lawrencemkrauss.com <http://ww.lawrencemkrauss.com/> On Aug 22, 2018, at 2:18 PM, jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wrote: EFTA_R1_01797507 EFTA02606445 I think you might want to make it =art of the concillaiton process. not to allow once again , =hem to get ahead of you. they ask others re amber . =etters. etc. you need to remember this =ill be published. 'I'll victim shaming not seen to be the =one thing. think if you were writing a two page =iece for the times. then add the rest. On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 5:15 PM, Lawrence Krauss =rote: I =gree with you regarding compromise. This is an appeal letter to =he president. It is to explain to him with the proposed disciplinary =ction is not warranted. Letters that were not solicited by the =EI but should have been seem fair game in this regard. Lawrence M. =rauss Professor School of Earth & Space =xploration and Physics Department Arizona State =niversity, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404 Research Office: Assistant (Jessica): I twitter.com/Ikraussl I www.lawrencemkrauss.com <http://ww.lawrencemkrauss.comh On Aug 22, 2018, at 2:13 PM, jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wrote: is there any -precedent =n an appeal letter to add letters of support? i think it is = legal appeal not an appeal to ones emotions . =t is legal grounds or not. you can attack the =redibility of witnesses but you have been found to be not =redible. and with a multi year behavior issue =owever did you break a rule??? I dont =hink you should suggest a compromise in an appeal letter. . you =an make refernce to not wanting a long drawn out court =attle. a bit threatening, but not play your hand On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 4:54 PM, Lawrence Krauss =MINIM cl =rote: This is highly confidential of course, but it is good news, =nd I will use it in the appeal doc, which I am HEAVILY revising =oday. I am also going to send you another support letter that is =uite important in a minute. 2 EFTA_R1_01797508 EFTA02606446 Lawrence M. =rauss Professor School of Earth & Space =xploration and Physics Department Arizona State =niversity, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287.1404 Research Office: I Assistant (Jessica): I twitter.com/Ikrauss1 I www.lawrencemkrauss.com <http://ww.lawrencemkrauss.com/> Begin forwarded message: From: =/b>A H Subject: =/b>Hello Date: =/b>August 22, 2018 at 1:23:08 PM =DT To: 4b>lawrence Krauss Thanks for forwarding me the content of the investigative =eport by ASU related to me and my participation, along with Johnny, at =rigins events. lam attaching what you sent to me so that = may comment on it.: "Four Witnesses reported during the =nvestigation that Respondent once made a comment in the presence of =mployees about the physical characteristics of Amber Heard, an actress =nd female visitor at Origins Project event. Specifically, during the =ohnny Depp event on February 16, 2016, that Respondent, while getting =veryone together to take a picture with Johnny Depp, said, "get =our hot ass over here" when attempting to get Amber to join the =icture. During this same event, two witnesses allege that Respondent =old Heard, "Your ass looks great." Employees also =ndicate that he talked about how "hot she =as". When asked if he ever commented on a =emale's buttocks in front of employees, Respondent stated, =E2 Whoa, not that I...I can't imagine doing that =9D. Respondent stated, "Generally, I would say that is not a =ood idea" but added that if someone asked his opinion about =omeone, he might respond. When asked if he ever made comments about =mber Heard's body, Respondent stated, "No. Amber Heard =s an incredibly attractive woman, and everybody understands that and =verybody said it, and she is". Respondent stated that he did not =emember telling Heard that her "ass" looked good. He =tated, "I don't remember saying it, but it's =he kind of thing that a close friend would say to a close friend in the =ontext of [asking for wardrobe advice], but I certainly don't =emember it, but we were very, very close." Respondent stated =hat making such comments in the workplace would be outside of normal =onduct for him, but "if it would've happened, it would =ave not been at the Origins offices. It would have been in the middle =f an event when we were celebrating". 3 EFTA_R1_01797509 EFTA02606447 Factual Determination: Four witnesses =eard Respondent make the statement. Although Respondent stated he did =ot remember saying this, he did acknowledge that it is the kind of =hing that a close friend would say. It is more likely than not that =espondent made the statements. " Hey Lawrence. I'm glad to hear from you although, of =ourse, I am saddened that it is under these =ircumstances. Here is my response, which you may forward to the =niversity if you wish: I do not recall this or any incident between us =s being inappropriate. I also feel deeply for anyone who feels as =hough they have been the subject of any unwanted attention in this way, =01 hope this can provide any clarity on your situation. =nbsp; Lawrence Krauss was a close friend, and as I =ecall his behavior towards me was gracious and kind during our visits =o the Origins Project. I don't recall any such comments =y him backstage at the Origins event, and more generally remember no =nappropriate comments toward me at any time, either in public or =ackstage during the events, or at our home or elsewhere, and we left =11 of our interactions with both him, and his Origins staff, feeling =ery well treated. The Origins events were a highlight for =e. I =ope this lays this issue to rest. Due=to the public nature of my life and the uniquely public circumstances =urrounding aspects of my marriage and divorce to my ex-husband (who =articipated in the Origins event mentioned above), I request that this =tatement be used internally by the university only. Thank =ou. Best regards Amber Heard. please note The information contained in this =ommunication is confidential, may be attorney-client =rivileged, may constitute inside information, and is =ntended only for the use of the addressee. It is the =roperty of JEE Unauthorized use, disclosure =r copying of this 4 EFTA_R1_01797510 EFTA02606448 communication or any part thereof is =trictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have =eceived this communication in error, please notify us =mmediately by return e-mail or by e-mail to [email protected], and destroy this =ommunication and all copies thereof, including all =ttachments. copyright -all rights reserved please note The information contained in this =ommunication is confidential, may be attorney-client =rivileged, may constitute inside information, and is =ntended only for the use of the addressee. It is the =roperty of JEE Unauthorized use, disclosure =r copying of this communication or any part thereof is =trictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have =eceived this communication in error, please notify us =mmediately by return e-mail or by e-mail to [email protected], and destroy this =ommunication and all copies thereof, including all =ttachments. copyright -all rights reserved please note The information contained in this =ommunication is confidential, may be attorney-client =rivileged, may constitute inside information, and is =ntended only for the use of the addressee. It is the =roperty of JEE Unauthorized use, disclosure =r copying of this communication or any part thereof is =trictly prohibited and may be unlawful. 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