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1 written down anywhere? 1 for now we'll call it a massage -- as well as
2 A. No. 2 anybody who brought that person over to the house,
3 Q. It's my understanding that C. and T. 3 they would both get paid cash. Are you familiar
4 either came to his house alone to visit with Mr. 4 with that?
5 Epstein or brought other girls in their age group MR. CRITTON: Form.
6 to Mr. Epstein. 6 THE WITNESS: No.
7 Were you familiar with that type of 7 BY MR. EDWARDS:
8 recruitment process of girls bringing other girls? 8 Q. If C. brought another girl over to the
9 MR. CRITTON: Form. 9 house and C. stayed downstairs but this other girl
10 THE WITNESS: Yes. 10 went upstairs with Mr. Epstein, which one would
11 BY MR. EDWARDS: 11 you pay?
12 Q. Can you tell me more about what you know 12 A. I don't know because I was told who to
13 about girls bringing other girls that are 13 pay.
14 relatively the same age to come to Jeffrey 14 Q. And always told you?
15 Epstein's house and to use your words, have a good 15 A. told me pay so and so.
16 time? 16 Q. So if we were going to ask anybody else
17 MR. CRTITON: Form. 17 about the exact method in terms of who would get
18 THE WITNESS: It's hard to know who they 18 paid and for what, who would the people be? I
19 knew. But I think that was -- they feel 19 mean, other than Mr. Epstein who else could we ask
20 better themselves when they're in a group 20 these • ns?
21 than going by themselves, but I don't know 21 A.
22 somebody recruiting. 22 Q.
23 BY MR. EDWARDS: 23 A. Yes.
24 Q. Okay. And you've talked about, at least 24 Q. She would know this?
25 referred to yourself I believe to the police and 25 A. Yes.
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1 as well today as a human ATM machine. Right? 1 Q. What about Ghislaine Maxwell?
2 MR. CRITTON: Form. 2 MR. CRITTON: Form.
3 THE WITNESS: Something like that. I was 3 THE WITNESS: You're talking about the
4 supposed to carry cash at all times. 4 boss. I don't know.
5 BY MR. EDWARDS: 5 BY MR. EDWARDS:
6 Q. One of the primary reasons why you 6 Q. To your knowledge was Ghislaine Maxwell
7 carried cash was to pay the girls in this age 7 aware of these girls that are in the age group of
8 group of C. and T. for whatever happened at the 8 C. and T. coming to Jeffrey Epstein's house to
9 house. Right? 9 have a good time?
10 MR. CRITTON: Form. 10 MR. CRITTON: Form.
11 THE WITNESS: Yes. 11 THE WITNESS: I have to say something.
12 BY MR. EDWARDS: 12 Mrs. Maxwell called me and told me not to
13 Q. That's a fair statement. Right? 13 ever discuss or contact her again in a
14 MR. CRITTON: Form. 14 threaten way.
15 THE WITNESS: Yes. 15 BY MR. EDWARDS:
16 BY MR. EDWARDS: 16 Q. When was this?
17 Q. Okay. And when C., let's use her for 17 A. Right after I left because I call one of
18 example, would bring somebody else to the house, 18 the friends for a job and she told me this, but,
19 did you pay C. as well as whomever she brought to 19 you know, I feel intimidated and so I want to keep
20 the house, pay them both? 20 her out.
21 A. No, I pay only one person, 21 Q. What exactly did she say? First of all,
22 Q. Okay. My understanding, and tell me if 22 was this a telephone call?
23 this is wrong or you can corroborate this, is that 23 A. Yes, she was in New York.
24 Mr. Epstein would pay the girl that was actually 24 Q. She called you on your cell phone?
25 performing whatever was happening in the room -- 25 A. Yes.
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