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BURMAN, CRITTON LUTTIER&COLEMAN,LLP YOUR TRUSTED ADVOCATES A LIMITED LIABILITY PARTNERSHIP J. MICHAEL BURMAN. PA" ADILOSH ). BINAVENTE GREGORY W. COLEMAN. PA PAIALLGAL/INvESTIGATOR ROBERT D. CRITTON. JR.. PA' JESSICA CADWELL BERNARD LEBEDEKER. BOBBIE M. MCKENNA MARK T LUTTIER. P.A. ASHLIE STOKEN-BARING JEFFREY C. PEPIN BETTY STOKES MICHAEL J. PIKE RAPALEGALS HEATHER MCNAMARA RUDA RITA H. BUDNYK DAVID YAREMA August 28, 2009 OF COUNSEL ED RICCI 'FLORIDA BOARD CERTIFIED CIVIL TRIAL LAWYER SPECIAL 2ADMITTED TO PRACTICE IN EIORIDA AND COLORADO JUSTICE COUNSEL CONFIDENTIAL SETTLEMENT DISCUSSION Sent by E-Mail Only Robert Josefsber , Es Re: Epstein Matter Dear Bob: I am enclosing a copy of the taped interview of which I believed was taken in 2005 by Det. Recarey. As you will note, the tape was transcribed by a court re der who listened to the tape. Additionally, I am providing you the statement of which was taken by Jack Goldberger with Lily Sanchez present on March 21, 2008. is demanding $250,000. I believe after you read her statement, you will be able to conclude she never should have been placed on the list in the first place and has no valid claim; her words, her sworn testimony and given in 2005. In reviewin statement, it is significant as to her willingness to lie about her age (wit insistence), she said that she was 17.9 years old; and everything she did, was 100% consensual. She said there was never force, coercion and she was always comfortable around Mr. Epstein. This leads one to belie • claim also should not exist. She also casts substantial doubt on any claim of These statements are being provided to you in furtherance of our settlement discussions, prior agreement and are completely confidential and privileged under both state and federal law and applicable statutes. PHONE: • FAX: • MAI 10BC1CLAW.COM WiArW.BUCLAW.COM EFTA01075901 August 28. 2009 Page 2 Please let me know if you will be able to get the information that we have requested re: the prior USAO lists so as to continue our good faith dialogue and exchange of information. Cord Robe D. Critton, Jr. RDC/clz Enclosure EFTA01075902  Page IN RE: JEFFREY EPSTEIN --- TAPED INTERVIEW OF Sandy Rossi Notary Public, State of Florida Consor and Associates 3. Censor & • • Transcription EFTA01075903  Page 2 1 r- --(Thereupon, the following interview was had:) 2 _ _ 3 BY DETECTIVE RECAREY: 4 Q -- say nothing but the truth so help you God? 5 A Yeah. 6 Q All right. So tell me from the beginning as far 7 as when you met Mr. Epstein. 8 A As soon as (inaudible) house. And and 9 were (inaudible). I'm like what are you guys talking 10 about? And I hadn't really hung out with them. I was kind 11 of with the redneck crowd. They're the preppy girl crowd. 12 And they were telling me about this guy and they would go 13 and give him massages and he'd pay them $200 for giving a 14 massage for an hour. And they said do you want to do it and 15 I'm like yeah, $200 for an hour, let's go. So I think about 16 a week later I had gone with and it was me and her in 17 the room with him and it was kind of weird because he's 18 naked but she's like oh, he's always like that, don't worry 19 about it. And then we just gave him a massage and he gave 20 her $200 and he gave me $300 and he asked me to come back. 21 So I'm like okay. I came back about probably about five or 22 six times. 23 Q Okay. He gave you 300 to do a massage, right? 24 A Uh-huh. 25 Q Okay. And that was about a year ago? J. Consor & As ranscription EFTA01075904  Page 3 1 A Yeah. 2 0 Okay. You were approached about this by Faith and 3 4 A Uh-huh. 5 Q Okay. what's her last name? 6 A Valdez or Vas -- I don't know. It begins with a 7 V. 8 Okay. All right. Let's start back from the 9 beginning on the massage. He was naked on the massage? 10 A Yes, with a towel over him. 11 Q Okay. How were you dressed when you were 12 providing the massage? 13 A I think jeans and a tank top. 14 Q Jeans and a tank top. At any time did he ask you 15 to remove your clothing? 16 A He did probably about the third time that I went 17 there. 18 Q Okay. 19 A And I gave him a massage in my bra and underwear. 20 Q Just your underwear. Okay. 21 A That's why I stopped going because he said if you 1 22 start to feel uncomfortable just (inaudible) anymore. 23 0 Okay. When you were giving him the massage, where 24 did the massage take place? 25 A Like if you go upstairs into his bedroom like his Consor 8,e As Transcription EFTA01075905  Page 4 1 bathroom I guess like there's this big room with like a 2 sauna and a shower and in there. I 3 Q Okay. Were there a table already set up? 4 A Sometimes it was already set up and then sometimes 5 when we went up there there's like a little closet and the 6 table is in the closet and we'd bring it out and set it up. 7 Q Did you set it up or -- 8 A Yes. 9 Q -- did somebody else set it up for you? 10 A Sometimes it was already set up when we got there. 11 Q Okay. 12 A Sometimes I had to set it up. 13 Q Okay. How were you taken to the bedroom area? 14 A Usually would lead you up but after you were 15 there a couple times she'd say go on up. 16 0 Okay. And you went what, five to six times? 17 A Yeah. 18 Q Okay. All right. Let's get back to your first 19 massage you gave. He was wrapped in a towel. Uh-huh. i 20 A 21 Q Okay. At any time did he take off the towel? 22 A Only when he got up and put a robe around him. 23 Q Okay. During the time you were providing him a 24 massage, did he ever touch himself? 25 A No. He was laying on his stomach. • J. Consor & As " Transcription EFTA01075906  Page 5 1 Q Laying on his stomach the entire time? 2 A Yeah. 3 Q Okay. Did he ever ask you to rub his chest? 4 A Yes. 5 Q Okay. 6 A But not the first time. 7 Q Not the first time. You just massaged his 8 A His legs and his feet the first time. 9 Q Okay. Feet and -- 10 A Shasdy massaged his back and I massaged his feet. 11 Q Okay. So the first time Shasdy and you did the 12 massage? 13 A Uh-huh. 14 Q Okay. All right. And you were completely 15 clothed? 16 A Yes. 17 Q Okay. Did he touch you -- 18 A No. 19 Q -- during the massage? 20 A No. 21 Q No. Was there any massagers slash vibrators 22 introduced into the massage? 23 A No. Just like he had like this massage cream from 24 Bath and Body Works I think it was from. That's it. And 25 I'd use that. J. Consor & As • Transcription EFTA01075907  Page 6 1 Q. Okay. When the second time you went, how did you, 2 how were you contacted? 3 A Asked -- when he asked -- when he gave me $300 and 4 asked me to come back, I had left him my cell phone number. 5 Q Okay. 6 A Andillillicalled me and told me that Jeff had 7 wanted me to come back and then I went down there. 8 Q Okay. Do you recall when this was? 9 A No. I know it started like this time last year 10 because I think about January is the last time I went when I 11 met my boyfriend and he didn't want me going down there. 12 Q So January of this year was the last time you 13 went? 14 A Yeah. 15 Q Okay. All right. So she calls you and tells you 16 to come -- 17 A (Inaudible.) 18 Q -- tells you to come to the house to provide, to 19 work? 20 A Uh-huh. 21 Q Did anything happen during that massage? 22 A No. The only thing he ever did was he tried to 23 grab my butt and I told him I didn't feel comfortable with 24 that and he always said that if you didn't feel comfortable 25 just to let him know. He didn't want you to feel J. Consor & Transcription EFTA01075908  Page 7 1 uncomfortable. 2 Q Was that on the second massage? 3 A No. Probably about towards the end because I was 4 fully clothed until the third massage. 5 0 Okay. 6 A That was the massage. That's when just I did it 7 in my bra and underwear. And then after that is when I 8 started feeling uncomfortable with it because he was like why don't you take that off and I was like no. And then 10 just -- he never pressured me. He never forced me to do 11 anything. But he would like try to talk you into it and I 12 didn't feel comfortable with it. 13 0 Okay. So you recall both -- the first two times? 14 A Uh-huh. 15 Q Did he touch himself during the second massage? 16 A I guess kinda he would sometimes. 17 Q What do you mean? 18 A Well not -- like towards the end when I was in my 18 bra and underwear like sometimes when I would be rubbing his 20 chest then he would. 21 Q Okay. Did he do it on the second time you went? 22 A No. 23 Q Okay. The third time you went, how were you 24 contacted to go? 25 A called me again. 1 Consor & Transcription EFTA01075909  Page 8 called you again? 2 Okay. When you got there he asked you to remove 3 your clothing? 4 A Yeah. 5 Q. Okay. When you say panties, were they normal 6 panties or were they 7 A A thong. 8 Q A thong. 9 Okay. You provided the massage?. 10 A Uh-huh. 11 Q And this was the first time that he had you rub 12 his chest? 13 A Yes. 14 Q Okay. While you were rubbing his chest, did he 15 masturbate? 16 A Yes. I 17 Q Okay. 18 A But this is towards the end. 19 Q Okay. Towards the end of the massage? 20 A No, like towards like the last time I went there. 21 Q Okay. 22 A But yeah, it was towards the end of the massage 23 also. Would you like something to drink? 24 Q No, I'm good. I'm good. 25 A Okay. I've lost all my manners. (Inaudible.) 3. Consor & ' & Transcription EFTA01075910  Page 9 That's okay. Do you know if he climaxed? A I don't know. He still had the towel over him. Q He never removed the towel? 4 A No. Judging by the his breathing I would think that he did but I never asked if he did. 6 Q And do you know what I mean when I say 7 masturbate -- 8 A Yes. 9 Q -- and climax? 10 A Yes. 11 Q Okay. All right. So each time you went to the 12 house, at what point did he try to escalate to more than 13 just a massage? 14 A Like it would start out as a normal massage and 15 he'd like sit down and talk to you and stuff and then he'd 16 be like oh, well come here and do this or do that and he's 17 like if you told him no he wouldn't, you know, he wouldn't 18 make a big deal out of it. If you told him you felt 19 uncomfortable about anything then -- 20 Q Okay. when did he grab your buttocks? 21 A I don't know. One of the times I was giving a 22 massage. X really can't -- 23 Q Okay. Did he ever grab more than just your 24 buttocks? 25 A No, because I made it clear when he did that that 3. Consor & Asso ' s e rtin Transcription EFTA01075911  Page 10 1 - I was very uncomfortable and I left. 2 Q Okay. Did he ever touch your breasts? 3 A No. 4 Q Okay. Did he ever touch your vagina area? 5 A No. 6 Q Okay. Did he ever bring out any kind of sexual 7 toys? 8 A No. 9 Q When was the last time you were contacted by 10 anybody at the Epstein (inaudible)? 11 A The last time I went there because I told him that 12 I wasn't coming back. 13 Q Okay. So January 2005 approximately? 14 A Yes. 15 Q The very last time you went, did he, did he 16 continue like when you were giving him a massage, 17 masturbate? 18 A No, because I was giving him the massage and I 19 kept looking at the clock on the sink and I was looking at 20 the clock and he was like why do you keep looking at the 21 clock? And I was like I don't know and I was like because 22 my boyfriend is waiting to come pick me up and he's like 23 well, he's like he said you're supposed to make me enjoy my 24 massage right now. He said you're not supposed to be 25 looking at the clock. And I was like well, and he's like if Transcription EFTA01075912  Page 11 1 you don't want to do this then you don't have to do it and 2 that's when I told him I don't want to come back anymore 3 because I really don't feel comfortable and, you know, my 4 boyfriend doesn't like that I'm coming here. And then that 5 was it and I haven't spoken to him since. 6 Q On top of the $300 did he ever offer you more 7 money? 8 A No. He gave me money for Christmas. He Western 9 Unioned I think it was like $200 as a Christmas present but 10 other than that, that's it. 11 Q For last Christmas? 12 A Yes. 13 Q What -- which Western Union did you pick that up 14 at? 15 A The one in Royal Palm and Okeechobee. I think 16 it's in The Check Cashing Store. There's a Western Union 17 there. 18 0 Okay. Did you ever take anybody to the house? 19 A No. Nobody that I hung out with knew about that. 20 Q Okay. Was there anybody else in the room when you 21 were providing massage -- 22 A No. 23 0 -- aside from 24 A Aside from_no. 25 Q Okay. No other assistants? J. Consor & Associates Re ortin & Transcription EFTA01075913  Page 12 1 A No. 2 Q Okay. Did he ever offer you monies to go 3 further -- 4 A No. 5 Q -- than just a massage? 6 Okay. How old were you when you first went there? 7 A Seventeen. 8 Q Seventeen. 9 A And I was 17 the last time I went there too. 10 just turned 18 this past June. I 11 When did you turn 18? 12 A June that just passed. 13 Q June that just passed? 14 Did Shasdy ever tell you that you would have to I 15 provide the massage naked or -- 16 A No. They just told me that we were going to do a 17 massage. 18 Q Okay. All right. You were attending Royal Palm 19 Beach High School -- 20 A Yes. 21 Q -- okay, at the time? 22 A Kinds. I kind of dropped out right in the middle. 23 Q Okay. Did you ever finish school? 4 24 A No. Actually tomorrow is my GED test. 25 Q Well good luck with that. 1 I 3. Consor & Associates Re orting & Transcription EFTA01075914  Page 13 A -Thank you. I fell in love, moved to Jupiter, it 2 didn't last forever, blah, blab, blah. 3 Q This is the guy that didn't want you going back 4 anymore? 5 A Yeah. Yeah. 6 Q You guys aren't together anymore? 7 A It's off and on. We got engaged. We were together off and on for nine years so (inaudible). 9 Q I guess the best thing he did was have you stop 10 going. 11 A Yeah. 12 Q Is there anything else you would like to add? 13 A No. I actually have some questions as to what's 14 going on with this. 15 Q well, this is an ongoing investigation. We 16 received a complaint and we're following it up. Obviously 17 based on the questions that I've asked you, you can pretty 18 much figure out what this is -- 19 A Yeah. Is Jeffrey in custody? 20 Q Not at this time. But this is an ongoing 21 investigation so I would appreciate that if anybody contacts 22 you, I know that friends have been calling each other and 23 telling them oh my God, there's a cop here, whatever, asking 24 me questions. 25 A Yeah, this is Royal Palm. That's big news in this J. Consor & Asso • • 9 & Transcription EFTA01075915  Page 14 1 little town. 2 Q Well, I would appreciate it if you didn't, you 3 know, say anything what we discussed. Especially if 4 calls you or anybody else calls you, you could say that I 5 Was here and if they have any questions they can give me a 6 call. Obviously if anybody from the -- Jeffrey's house 7 calls you, I'd also appreciate it if you call back and let 8 me know. 9 A Okay. 10 Q All right? 11 A All right. 12 DETECTIVE RECAREY: At this time I'm going to 13 go ahead and conclude this tape. The time on my 14 watch is 12:45. 15 (Thereupon, the interview ended.) 16 - - - 17 18 19 20 21 I 22 I 23 24 25 1 J. Consor & Transcription EFTA01075916  Page 15 1 C E R .T I F I C A T E 2 3 STATE OF FLORIDA COUNTY OF PALM BEACH ) 4 5 I, Sandra Rossi, Court Reporter, State of Florida at Large, certify that I was authorized to 6 and did stenographically report the forgoing proceedings, and that the transcript is a true and 7 complete record of the tape as listened to by me. 8 9 Dated this 30th day of January, 2007. 10 11 Sandra Rossi, Court Reporter 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 3. Consor & Ass • Transcription EFTA01075917  nsor & Associates Ropacting And Trznsc iptia.. Inc. 1 (Pages 1 to 4) Page 1 Page 3 INESTATE OF R.ORIDA, ) Statement taken before Judith F. Cotner, COUNTY OF MIA BEACH. ) 2 Court Reporter and Nowt' Public in and for the State of IN RE: Florida at large, in the above came. 4 JEFFREY EPSTEIN. llmmupon SWAN76- 51 TEPI NT IN 6 7 having been first duly sworn or affirmed, was examined Friday, March 21, 2008 a and staled as follows: 4:00 p.m. - 4:20 p.m. 9 THE WITNESS: I do. 10 BY MR. GOLDBER(ER: Q. Would you state your arra for the record, 12 pkam. 13 A. 14 Q. where do you live now? Reported BY: Judith F. Caw, FPR IS A. Address? Notary Public, State of Honda 16 Q. Sure. .Connor & Associates Reporting and Teanstription 17 West P 18 Phone tie 19 Q. Do you live there alone or do you live with 20 somebody there? 21 A. My father. 22 Q. Very good. And arc you working now or not 23 working? Sometimes you murk and sometinrs you dont? 24 A. When I want to. 25 Q. Okay. And bow old are you today? Page 2 Page 4 APPEARANCES: 1 A. Twenty-Dot 2 2 Q. Very good. On behalf of the Defendant What %tiro going to do today is we're going JACK A. GOLDBEItGER, ESQ. 3 3 . ton: • Y. D: . '41N 4 to MIT Winn !MOW as a swan statement from you. And s my Court reporter just put you Under oath. So all l want 6 yon to dos tell the absolute truth today. 7 A. Right 6 Q. I dont want you to color what you're ALSO PRESENT saying in any way. Really, the only thing that will be 7 LILLY ANN SANCHEZ,ESQ. It) of any use to anyone is if you just tell the absolute FOWLER WHITE, ATTORNEYS AT LAW II truth. 8 9 12 A. Right. 10 13 Q. So those are the irstruedous, okay? 17 14 A. Okay. 12 s Q. All right. And sometimes — I've been 13 14 16 doing this for a lot of yean and sometimes I talk hire a 15 17 lawyer too much, and if you don't understand whatI'm — 16 18 A. That's yourjob. 17 19 Q. I guess. But if you don't understand what 18 19 20 I'm saying at some point, just say, lack, say it in 20 21 English," and I'll make It better for you. OW 21 22 A. Okay. 22 23 Q. So tell me hcrw you first metJeffrey 23 CD 24 2s 24 25 • . A. introducedme to him. . .. • .% • en 11.•aeou • 4s. • •.. EFTA01075918  * nsor & Associates -Roperriagand Tesestription, Page 5 9•••••• • 2 (Pages 5 to 8$ Page 7 _.r. el...., . O Q. Ana was a friend ofyours at the A. No. 2 time? 2 Q. And she didn't e-mil you oboe that? 3 A. Yes. 3 A. No. Q. Okay. And tell me a link bit about the 4 Q. She didn't send you a text message like you introduction, has= introduced you to Jeffrey. guys do? 6 A. Well, she told me that I amid go over 6 A. No. 7 there and give him a massage -- 7 Q. Okay. Shejam simply saw you in person a Q. Okay. a one day and said, "Do you wane go over to 9 A. — and be'd pay me for it and that he was a 9 Mr. Epstein's home and do a massager to 164µ4.11111 guy. IC A. Yes. Q. Okay. So let's break that down a little 11 Q. And I take it you said okay and you went 12 bit. 12 over there? 13 She told you you could go ova them to 13 A. Yes. 14 Jeffrey Epstein's house and give a massage? 14 Q. Ail right. Now at the time that you went IS A. Rif* IS over there, you were not yet 18, but you were ahnost 18? 16 Q. When she said go give & massage did she 16 A. Yes. 17 tell you what she meant by that? 17 Q. You were within *couple ofmonths of being Is A. Jost am— no. Just a message She didn't IS 18 years old? 19 really give me my details. 19 A. Yes, I do believe so. 20 Q. Okay. Let me ask it to you another way. 20 Q. Okay. And what didMedi you about if 21 A. Okay. 21 asked, how old you should tell anyone you were when you 22 Q. Was there any suggestion that what you were 22 were ova to his house? 23 being offered the oppatuniy to do would be sexual in 23 Was that a bad question? 24 any way? 24 A. Repeat that. O 25 A. No. Page 6 25 Q. Sure. Okay. Page 8 Q. Okay. So as far as you tmderstood it and 1 Before you twat over to Jeffreys house 2 a far as whatM told you, you would be going ovate 2 aft you out Ala In;ascot did she tell you if anyone 3 Mr. Epstein's house and just giving him a normal 3 asked you how old you were, how old you were supposed to 4 theraponie massage? 4 say you wad A. Right. A. Yes. 6 Q. Okay. And I asume=told you you would 6 Q. What did she tell you? 7 be paid fair? 7 A. Yes. She told me to say that l was 181f a A. Yes. it was asked. 9 Q. Did she tell you how much you would be Q. She didn't &he you a saipt and say as to paid? 10 moo as you walk to the house you're supposed to say, it A. Yes. Two hundred. II 'ho 18,• right? 12 Q. Okay. When was the first time that you 12 A. No. 13 went tolefty Epeteln's house? Was it after you spoke Q. She just said that if anyone ever asked, 14 to Alex? 14 you should say that you were 18 years ofage. 1s A. Yes. IS A. Right. 16 Q. Okay. And the fine time that you was to 16 Q And I assume if you were asked, you wanted 17 Mr. Epstein's house, that was in response a 17 to be convincing that you \vat over the age of18, 18 talking to you person. In aher wends, she said -- IS because you wanted to do the work, right? 19 you saw her somewhat, be it at the store that you worked 19 A. Right. 20 at or around the TAighbahool, she said to you in person, 20 Q. By the way, were you ma asked? 'Do you want to go over to Jeffrey Epstein's house?' 21 A. Eventually. 22 Right? 22 Q May. 23 A. Q11-bah. 23 A. Not the first day, I don't believe. 24 Q. She didn't call you oldie witch= cod 24 Q. Okay. Was it leaky or someone else that offer you the opportunity? , . . „ ..2$ _askedra wbetha youwereover the age of18? .. ! ••• EFTA01075919  nsor & Associates opening-and Tranzfigisirm,loci • - • . 3 (Pages 9 to 12) Page 9 Page 11 A. It was probably Jeffrey. I don't remember Q. The reason you went there Isbecause= 2 very dearly. 2 ■told you in person 3 Q. Whoever asked you, though, you dearly said 3 A. Yes, 4 when asked, 'Pin lg." 4 Q. — that if you wanted to—ituasall 5 A. Oh-huh. s voluntary on your part — you could go to Jeffrey's house 6 Q. And you were very believable in saying that 6 and give him a massage. 7 you Imre over 18? 7 A. Right 8 A. Yes. 8 Q. Okay. So did Alex tell you what to expect 9 Q. Okay. Now the first time that you went to 9 when you went there, es far as keeping your clothes on cc 10 Jeffrey's house did you give him a massage that dry? ID taking your clothes of!? 11 A. Lit-inah. tt A. ffne did say that he may ask me to take my 12 Answer yes or no so the 12 clothes off and that he was very respectful about that 13 record is clear. 73 and that if l didnI feel comfortable about it that I 14 THE WITNESS: Yes. Okay. 14 didn't have W. IS (Discussion held off the record.) Is Q. All right. 16 BY MR. GOLDBERGER: 16 A. it was no problem. He wouldn't be upset. 17 Q. Okay. So you go to Jeffrey's house and you 17 Q. Alt right So Alex told you there would be 78 moat him and you're going to do a massage that day, is no pressure on you whatsoever? 19 right? 9 A. Right. 20 A. Yes. 20 Q. Wu simply did what yea warded to do? 21 Q. Now were you -• you were not forced to give 21 A. Yes. 22 a massage, correct? ' 22 Q. And if you didn't wtalt to do saneding, you 23 A. No. 23 were free to say, "No. I daft want to do 24 Q. You were not forced to do anything that you 24 A. Yes. 25 didn't want to do? 25 Q. All right And lures experiences with Page 10 Page 12 1 A. Right. Mr. Epstein, by the way, solo there ever a time when that 2 Q. No one coerced you or threatened you in any 2 didn't play out, when he tried to force you to do 3 way? 3 something that you didn't want to do? 4 A. Noway. 4 A He never tried to force me to do anything. Q. No one offered you any drugs io do a Q. If you said no to something. whatever that 6 massage? 6 might be, he would respect that? 7 A No- 7 A Yes. 8 Q No one offered you any alcohol to do a 8 Q. Affright 9 message? 9 Now the first time that yea went there do 10 A. No. 10 you remember whether you gave Jeffrey a massage with your Q And prior to going over to Jeffrey's house 11 clothes on or your clothes off? 12 the fro time there was no e-mail message from him? 12 A. At the begirsing, it was with a3 my 13 A. No. 13 clothes on. 14 Q. In any way? 14 Q. til-huh. 15 A. No way. 15 A But the most Out I mean' was satin 16 Q. There was no text mail message from him? 16 my bra and panties. 17 A. No. 17 Q. Okay. The whole time? 18 Q. There was no fax from him? IS A. Yes. 19 A. No. 19 Q. Right. 20 Q. Okay. And the same gondol= There W2S 20 A. I'm pretty sure, yes. 21 no e-mail from anyone that worked for Jeffrey before you 21 Q. Did you see during that manage -. did he 22 went over there? 77 try and touch you in wry way during that massage? 23 A. No, 23 A. No. 24 Q. No text menages from anybody? 24 Q. Did he use any kind of device on you in any .25 EFTA01075920  is 4, •!" ••••• • • •• • nsor & Associates Reposing and 3per .• ' Transcripziart, •• •• • •• • 4 (Pages 13 to 16) Page 13 Page 15 A. No. massage or not? 2 Q. Do you know -- he vms wearing a towel 2 A. Yee, It was ahveys that. 3 though that massage? 3 Q. Obw• And there was never any discussice, 4 A. Yes. 4 'Well, we really wet you to caw over because we want . 5 Q. Do you know whether he touched himself in you to have sex with Jeffrey," or anything like that? 6 any way, his penis or anything like that, during the 6 A. Right. Noway. 7 massage? Q. Never, ever suggested, right? a A. Yeah, like towards the end. A. No. 9 Q. Okay. Do you know whether he masturbated? 9 Q. Okay. The only thing that ever occurred on to A Oh, Milo& 10 any of these phone calls was, "Are you willing to come 11 Q. If you don't know, you don't know. it over," or, "Would you hie to come ova and give a 12 A I mean probably, but I don't know. I can't 12 massage?" 13 remember cannily. It was so long ago. 13 A. Right. 14 Q. Okay. There was nothing that you were la Q. Okay. And emplane calls from Jeffrey — IS muomfortabk with in this massage? is well, you never spoke to Jeffrey on the phone, right? 16 A. No. Yeah. And Iftte I said, he also, you 16 A. No. 17 know, reassured ill wasn't comfortable with anything, 17 Q. Okay. The phone call frosn Sara or any I 8 then just tell him and — Is other assistant would always it would be sporadic, 19 Q. He would stop? 19 right? They always said, "Jeffreys going to be in town. 20 A. that would Ix the end of it. 20 Do you want to r over this afternoon at four o'clock7 21 Q. Okay. Now after that !lost tint you met at 21 A. Yeah, yeah. It wasn't 22 Wirers horse, you left. And did there come other 22 Q. There was nothing regular about it? 23 times that you went to Jeffreys house? 23 k No. 24 A. Yes. 24 Q. Okay. Other than Sara, who else would have 25 Q. And how would fiat come How would that 25 called you to ask whether you wanted to acme ova and Page 14 Page 16 happen? 1 give a massage? 2 A San, one of his assinanu, would call me A. If it wasn't Sin, then Malaya Adriana, 3 and ask me if I wad Ida to cocoa over and give a 3 maybe one other person I don't know the name of. Just - 4 massage, because he would be in tan. 4