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This is amazing. A pleasure to read.
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On Apr 26, 2015, at 10:31 AM, Jesse Ferguson <[email protected]>
wrote:
great work everyone. this interview is perfect. he lands nothing and
everything is refuted (mostly based on our work)
On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Josh Schwerin <[email protected]
> wrote:
> 'This Week' Transcript: 'Clinton Cash’ Author Peter Schweizer
> Apr 26, 2015, 9:34 AM ET
>
> *This is a rush transcript for April 26, 2015. It will be updated and may
> contain errors.*
>
>
> *http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/week-transcript-clinton-cash-author-peter-schweizer/story?id=30568766&singlePage=true
> <http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/week-transcript-clinton-cash-author-peter-schweizer/story?id=30568766&singlePage=true>*
>
> GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS, HOST: And the author of "Clinton Clash," Peter
> Schweizer, joins us now.
>
> Thank you for joining us this morning, Peter.
>
> You know, I was looking at the book jacket right here and you say that,
> here in the book jacket that your reporting raises serious and alarming
> questions about judgment of possible indebtedness to an array of foreign
> interests and ultimately, a fitness for high public office.
>
> So how does your reporting show that Hillary Clinton
> <http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/whitehouse/hillary-clinton.htm> may be
> unfit for the presidency?
>
> PETER SCHWEIZER, AUTHOR, "CLINTON CLASH": Well, I think the real question
> here, George, is when you ever have an issue of the flow of funds to
> political candidates, whether that's to their campaigns, whether that's to
> private foundations, whether that's to their spouse, is there evidence of a
> pattern of -- of favorable decisions being made for those individuals?
>
> And I think the -- the point that we make in the book is that there is a
> troubling pattern.
>
> There are dozens of examples of that occurring.
>
> Some people, I think particularly the Clinton camp, would say that these
> are all coincidence. I don't think, when you're talking about 12 instances,
> you're talking coincidence. I think you're talking trend.
>
> STEPHANOPOULOS: But you take it pretty far. You write that, "The pattern
> of behavior is troubling enough to warrant further investigation by law
> enforcement (INAUDIBLE)."..
>
> SCHWEIZER: Correct.
>
> STEPHANOPOULOS: Do you have any evidence that a crime may have been
> committed?
>
> SCHWEIZER: Well, I think it's -- if you look at a couple of recent
> examples. For example, Governor McConnell down in Virginia, or you look at Senator
> Menendez <http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/us/robert-menendez.htm>, in
> these cases, you didn't have evidence of a quid pro quo. What you had was
> funds flowing to elected officials, some of them gifts, some of them
> campaign contributions and actions that were being taken by those public
> officials that seemed to benefit the contributors.
>
> Certainly, I think it warrants investigation. What that investigation will
> reveal, we'll see.
>
> STEPHANOPOULOS: But a criminal investigation?
>
> SCHWEIZER: Well, we'll see. I mean that's what the Governor McConnell has
> faced and that's what Menendez has faced.
>
> STEPHANOPOULOS: But the...
>
> SCHWEIZER: And I think the evidence here is far more widespread in terms
> of repeated action than there were in those two instances.
>
> STEPHANOPOULOS: As you know, the Clinton campaign says you haven't
> produced a shred of evidence that there was any official action as
> secretary that -- that supported the interests of donors.
>
> SCHWEIZER: Well...
>
> STEPHANOPOULOS: We've done investigative work here at ABC News, found no
> proof of any kind of direct action. And an independent government ethics
> expert, Bill Allison, of the Sunline Foundation (ph), wrote this. He said,
> "There's no smoking gun, no evidence that she changed the policy based on
> donations to the foundation."
>
> No smoking gun.
>
> Is there a smoking gun?
>
> SCHWEIZER: Yes. The smoking gun is in the pattern of behavior. And here's
> the analogy I would give you. It's a little bit like insider trading
> <http://abcnews.go.com/topics/business/insider-trading.htm>. I wrote a
> book on Congressional insider trading a couple of years ago and talked with
> prosecutors.
>
> Most people that engage in criminal insider trading don't send an e-mail
> that says I've got inside information, buy this stock.
>
> The way they look at it, they look at a pattern of stock trades. If the
> person has access to that information and then they do a series of
> well-timed trades. That warrants investigation.
>
> I think the same thing applies here.
>
> By the way, what's important to note is it was confirmed on Thursday, both
> by "The New York Times" and "The Wall Street Journal
> <http://abcnews.go.com/topics/business/the-wall-street-journal.htm>,"
> that there are multi-million dollar, non-disclosed donations that were made
> to the Clinton Foundation
> <http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/issues/clinton-foundation.htm> that
> were never disclosed by the Clintons.
>
> This is a direct breach of an agreement they suggested with the White
> House.
>
> STEPHANOPOULOS: That -- that is an issue for them, but it's not a criminal
> -- it's nothing that would warrant a cmii.
>
> So let's look at some of the specifics behind your pattern.
>
> SCHWEIZER: Sure.
>
> STEPHANOPOULOS: A lot of focus on the sale of a company, Uranium One, to a
> -- to a Russian <http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/russia.htm>company. Of
> course, Frank Drisdra (ph), who had committed, what, a $130 million, a
> pledge to the Clinton Foundation back in 2006, had had an interest in this
> company.
>
> But he actually sold it.
>
> SCHWEIZER: Well, he sold his stock, but his firm, Endeavor Financial,
> continued to do finance deals well after that. And the individuals involved
> in the book, as you probably read, there are nine -- count them, nine major
> contributors to the Clinton Foundation who were involved in that nuclear
> deal.
>
> The two individuals who were the financial advisers on the deal of the
> sale to the Russians, they're both major Clinton Foundation supporters. The
> chairman of that Foundation, Ian Telfer, whose donations were not
> disclosed, campaign -- and sorry, Clinton Foundation contributor. And there
> are others.
>
> So this is not just about Frank Giustra. This is multiple layers
> (INAUDIBLE)...
>
> STEPHANOPOULOS: OK, but you didn't disclose in your book that he had sold
> the interest.
>
> SCHWEIZER: Yes.
>
> STEPHANOPOULOS: Beyond that, this deal was approved by a -- a board of the
> government called the CFIUS Board.
>
> SCHWEIZER: Correct.
>
> STEPHANOPOULOS: This actually chaired by the secretary of the Treasury...
>
> SCHWEIZER: Correct.
>
> STEPHANOPOULOS: -- not the secretary of State.
>
> SCHWEIZER: Right.
>
> STEPHANOPOULOS: Eight other agencies on board, the secretary of State,
> Homeland Security, Defense, Commerce...
>
> SCHWEIZER: Right.
>
> STEPHANOPOULOS: -- Energy, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission...
>
> SCHWEIZER: Right.
>
> STEPHANOPOULOS: -- signed off on it. And even though the State Department
> was one of nine agencies to sign off on it, there's no evidence at all that
> Hillary Clinton got directly involved in this decision.
>
> SCHWEIZER: Well, I think it warrants further investigation. And there's a
> couple of things that need to be clarified.
>
> Number one, she was one vote -- or the State Department was one vote on
> CFIUS. But any agency has veto power. So it needs to be unanimous. So they
> had to support this agreement.
>
> The second thing that I would say is that in the midst of all of this,
> Hillary Clinton was in charge of the Russian reset. She was in charge of --
> in -- of the A123 nuclear agreements with the Russians. She was the one
> that was meeting with Lavrov. There were four senior congressmen on
> national security issues that raised concerns about this issue...
>
> STEPHANOPOULOS: But wait a second. There were nine different agencies...
>
> SCHWEIZER: Sure.
>
> STEPHANOPOULOS: -- who approved it.
>
> Doesn't that suggest that that was because there was no national security
> concern, not because of some nefarious influence by Hillary Clinton?
>
> SCHWEIZER: But -- but look at the nine individuals that were on the CFIUS
> committee, the nine agencies represented.
>
> Who was, by far, the most hawkish on CFIUS issues in the past?
>
> Hillary Clinton. She was big on rejecting the Dubai ports deal. She was
> big on other issues. She sponsored legislation when she was in the Senate
> to straighten CFIUS.
>
> This was a signature issue for her and this is totally out of character...
>
> STEPHANOPOULOS: But the assistant secretary who sat -- the assistant
> secretary of State who sat on the committee said she never intervened on
> any CFIUS issue at all.
>
> SCHWEIZER: Well, I think that deserves further scrutiny. I would question
> that.
>
> To argue that (INAUDIBLE)...
>
> STEPHANOPOULOS: But based on what?
>
> Based on what?
>
> SCHWEIZER: Well, I think based on her (INAUDIBLE)...
>
> STEPHANOPOULOS: Do you have any evidence that she actually intervened in
> this issue?
>
> SCHWEIZER: No, we don't have direct evidence. But it warrants further
> investigation because, again, George, this is part of the broader pattern.
> You either have to come to the conclusion that these are all coincidences
> or something else is afoot.
>
> STEPHANOPOULOS: And that -- that is that -- the Clintons do say it's a
> coincidence. As they say, you have produced no evidence. And I still
> haven't heard any direct evidence and you just said you had no evidence
> that she intervened here.
>
> But I do want to ask a broader question.
>
> It's been reported that you -- you briefed several Republicans on the
> Senate Foreign Relations Committee, including the chairman, Bob Corker.
>
> Did you offer any briefings for Democrats?
>
> SCHWEIZER: No, but I'd be glad to give them before the book is released.
> This was a -- a friend that asked me. He thought it would be a good idea to
> talk to these individuals. This was the committee that confirmed her.
>
> And I was glad to meet with them. They did not get copies of the book.
> They did not get any material. It was simply a verbal briefing.
>
> And I'd be glad to brief any Democrats before May 5th, when the book comes
> out.
>
> STEPHANOPOULOS: As you know, the Democrats have said this is -- this is an
> indication of your partisan interest. They say...
>
> SCHWEIZER: Well...
>
> STEPHANOPOULOS: -- you used to work for President -- President Bush as a
> speechwriter. You're funded by the Koch brothers.
>
> How do you respond to that?
>
> SCHWEIZER: Well, George, what did I do when this book was completed?
>
> I went to the investigative unit at "The New York Times," the
> investigative unit here at ABC. I went to the investigative unit at "The
> Washington Post." And I shared with them my findings, OK. These are not
> cupcakes. These are serious researchers and investigators.
>
> And they are confirming what I've reported. So people can look at the
> facts and...
>
> STEPHANOPOULOS: They haven't come -- they haven't confirmed any evidence
> of any crime.
>
> SCHWEIZER: Well, but -- but it's not up to an author to prove crime. I
> mean do you think that when people first started looking at Governor
> McConnell or they started looking at Menendez, that they immediately had
> evidence?
>
> You need subpoena power. You need access to records and information. You
> need access to e-mails.
>
> There's all sorts of things that you can do. You can't leave it up to an
> author to say that an author has to prove a criminal case.
>
> STEPHANOPOULOS: Finally, Bloomberg News is reporting that you're going to
> be looking into Jeb Bush's business dealings, as well.
>
> Is that true?
>
> What have you found?
>
> Where and when will you publish?
>
> SCHWEIZER: We've been working on it for about four months. We've been
> looking at land deals. We've been looking at an airport deal. We've been
> looking at some financial transactions involving hedge funds based out of
> the UK.
>
> We have already reached out to several media outlets and we're going to
> adopt a similar model that we have here, which is to share that information
> with investigative journalists at established news outlets, share with them
> that information.
>
> And I think that people will find it very, very interesting and compelling.
>
> Peter Schweizer, thanks very much.
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> STEPHANOPOULOS: Thanks for having me, George.
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