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THE WALL STREET JOURNAL.
Prison vs. Harvard in an Unlikely Debate
Inmate debate team is part of Bard College program helping give prisoners a chance for a better life
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Carl Snyder, a prison inmate and member of the Bard Prison Initiative Debate team, speaks during a debate against Harvard
College Debating Union.
By LESLIE BRODY: Sept. 18, 2015
NAPANOCH, N.Y. — On one side of the stage at a maximum-security prison here sat three men
incarcerated for violent crimes.
On the other were three undergraduates from Harvard College.
After an hour of fast-moving debate Friday, the judges rendered their verdict.
The inmates won.
The audience burst into applause. That included about 75 of the prisoners' fellow students at the Bard
Prison Initiative, which offers a rigorous college experience to men at Eastern New York Correctional
Facility, in the Catskills.
The debaters on both sides aimed to highlight the academic power of a program, part of Bard College in
Annandale-on-Hudson, N.Y., that seeks to give a second chance to inmates hoping to build a better life.
Ironically, the inmates had to promote an argument with which they fiercely disagreed. Resolved: "Public
schools in the United States should have the ability to deny enrollment to undocumented students."
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Carlos Polanco, a 31-year-old from Queens in prison for manslaughter, said after the debate that he would
never want to bar a child from school and he felt forever grateful he could pursue a Bard diploma. "We
have been graced with opportunity," he said. "They make us believe in ourselves."
Judge Mary Nugent, leading a veteran panel, said the Bard team made a strong case that the schools
attended by many undocumented children were failing so badly that students were simply being
warehoused. The team proposed that if "dropout factories" with overcrowded classrooms and insufficient
funding could deny these children admission, then nonprofits and wealthier schools would step in and
teach them better.
Ms. Nugent said the Harvard College Debating Union didn't respond to parts of that argument, though
both sides did an excellent job.
The Harvard team members said they were impressed by the prisoners' preparation and unexpected line
of argument. "They caught us off guard," said Anais Carell, a 20-year-old junior from Chicago.
The prison team had its first debate in spring 2014, beating the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, N.Y.
Then, it won against a nationally ranked team from the University of Vermont and in April lost a rematch
against West Point.
Preparing has its challenges. Inmates can't use the Internet for research. The prison administration must
approve requests for books and articles, which can take weeks.
In the morning before the debate, team members talked of nerves and their hope that competing against
Harvard—even if they lost—would inspire other inmates to pursue educations.
"If we win, it's going to make a lot of people question what goes on in here," said 31-year-old
from Manhattan convicted of manslaughter. "We might not be as naturally rhetorically gifted, but we
work really hard."
Ms. Nugent said it might seem tempting to favor the prisoners' team, but the three judges have to justify
their votes to each other based on specific rules and standards.
"We're all human," she said. "I don't think we can ever judge devoid of context or where we are, but the
idea they would win out of sympathy is playing into pretty misguided ideas about inmates. Their academic
ability is impressive."
The Bard Prison Initiative, begun in 2001,
aims to give liberal-arts educations to
talented, motivated inmates. Program
officials say about 10 inmates apply for
every spot, through written essays and
interviews.
There is no tuition. The initiative's roughly
$2.5 million annual budget comes from
private donors and includes money it
From !eft, prison inmates Carl Snyder, Dyjuan Tatra and Carlos Polanco spends helping other programs follow its
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Last year Gov. Andrew Cuomo, a Democrat, proposed state grants for college classes for inmates, saying
that helping them become productive taxpayers would save money long-term. He dropped the plan after
attacks from Republican politicians who argued that many law-abiding families struggled to afford college
and shouldn't have to pay for convicted criminals to get degrees.
The Bard program's leaders say that of more than 300 alumni who earned degrees while in custody, less
than 2% returned to prison within three years, the standard time frame for measuring recidivism.
In New York state as a whole, by contrast, about 40% of ex-offenders end up back in prison, mostly
because of parole violations, according to the New York Department of Corrections and Community
Supervision.
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