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Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1320-23 Filed 01/03/24 Page 1 of 10 EXHIBIT 1 (Filed Under Seal) Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1320-23 Filed 01/03/24 Page 2 of 10 Page 1 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK CASE NO. 15-CV-07433-RWS ------------------------------------------x VIRGINIA L. GIUFFRE, Plaintiff, v. GHISLAINE MAXWELL, Defendant. -------------------------------------------x May 18, 2016 9:04 a.m. C O N F I D E N T I A L Deposition of JOHANNA SJOBERG, pursuant to notice, taken by Plaintiff, at the offices of Boies Schiller & Flexner, 401 Las Olas Boulevard, Fort Lauderdale, Florida, before Kelli Ann Willis, a Registered Professional Reporter, Certified Realtime Reporter and Notary Public within and for the State of Florida. MAGNA9 LEGAL SERVICES Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1320-23 Filed 01/03/24 Page 3 of 10 Page 21 1 Jeffrey's home when you arrived? 2 A. Yes. When I first walked in the door, it 3 was just myself, and Ghislaine headed for the 4 staircase and said -- told me to come up to the 5 living room. 6 Q. And what happened at that point, when you 7 came up to the living room? 8 A. I came up and saw Virginia, Jeffrey, 9 Prince Andrew, Ghislaine in the room. 10 Q. And did you meet Prince Andrew at that 11 time? 12 A. Yes. 13 Q. And what happened next? 14 A. At one point, Ghislaine told me to come 15 upstairs, and we went into a closet and pulled out 16 the puppet, the caricature of Prince Andrew, and 17 brought it down. And there was a little tag on the 18 puppet that said "Prince Andrew" on it, and that's 19 when I knew who he was. 20 Q. And did -- what did the puppet look like? 21 A. It looked like him. And she brought it 22 down and presented it to him; and that was a great 23 joke, because apparently it was a production from a 24 show on BBC. And they decided to take a picture 25 with it, in which Virginia and Andrew sat on a MAGNA9 LEGAL SERVICES Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1320-23 Filed 01/03/24 Page 4 of 10 Page 22 1 couch. They put the puppet on Virginia's lap, and I 2 sat on Andrew's lap, and they put the puppet's hand 3 on Virginia's breast, and Andrew put his hand on my 4 breast, and they took a photo. 5 Q. Do you remember who took the photo? 6 A. I don't recall. 7 Q. Did you ever see the photo after it was 8 taken? 9 A. I did not. 10 Q. And Ms. Maxwell was present during the -- 11 was Ms. Maxwell present during that? 12 A. Yes. 13 Q. What happened next? 14 A. The next thing I remember is just being 15 shown to which room I was going to be staying in. 16 Q. When you exited the room that you were in 17 where the picture was taken, do you recall who 18 remained in that room? 19 A. I don't. 20 Q. Do you recall seeing Virginia exit that 21 room? 22 A. I don't. 23 Q. During this trip to New York, did you have 24 to perform any work when you were at the New York 25 house? MAGNA9 LEGAL SERVICES Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1320-23 Filed 01/03/24 Page 5 of 10 Page 141 1 always covered himself with a towel. 2 Q. I believe I asked this, but I just want to 3 clarify to make sure that I did: Did Maxwell ever 4 ask you to bring other girls over to -- for Jeffrey? 5 A. Yes. 6 Q. Yes? 7 A. Yes. 8 Q. And what did you -- did you do anything in 9 response to that? 10 A. I did bring one girl named Jane Doe 2 -- 11 no. Jane Doe 2 -- it was some girl named Jane Doe 2 12 that I had worked with at a restaurant. And I 13 recall Ghislaine giving me money to bring her over; 14 however, they never called her to come. 15 Q. And then I believe you mentioned that one 16 of your physical fitness instructors, you brought a 17 physical fitness instructor; was that correct? 18 A. Correct. 19 Q. And what did she do? 20 A. She gave him a -- like a training session, 21 twice. 22 Q. Twice. 23 Did anything sexual in nature happen 24 during the session? 25 A. At one point he lifted up her shirt and MAGNA9 LEGAL SERVICES Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1320-23 Filed 01/03/24 Page 6 of 10 Page 142 1 exposed her bra, and she grabbed it and pulled it 2 down. 3 Q. Anything else? 4 A. That was the conversation that he had told 5 her that he had taken this girl's virginity, the 6 girl by the pool. 7 Q. Okay. Did Maxwell ever say to you that it 8 takes the pressure off of her to have other girls 9 around? 10 A. She implied that, yes. 11 Q. In what way? 12 A. Sexually. 13 Q. And earlier Laura asked you, I believe, if 14 Maxwell ever asked you to perform any sexual acts, 15 and I believe your testimony was no, but then you 16 also previously stated that during the camera 17 incident that Maxwell had talked to you about not 18 finishing the job. 19 Did you understand "not finishing the job" 20 meaning bringing Jeffrey to orgasm? 21 MS. MENNINGER: Objection, leading, form. 22 BY MS. McCAWLEY: 23 Q. I'm sorry, Johanna, let me correct that 24 question. 25 What did you understand Maxwell to mean MAGNA9 LEGAL SERVICES Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1320-23 Filed 01/03/24 Page 7 of 10 Page 143 1 when she said you hadn't finished the job, with 2 respect to the camera? 3 MS. MENNINGER: Objection, leading, form. 4 THE WITNESS: She implied that I had not 5 brought him to orgasm. 6 BY MS. McCAWLEY: 7 Q. So is it fair to say that Maxwell expected 8 you to perform sexual acts when you were massaging 9 Jeffrey? 10 MS. MENNINGER: Objection, leading, form, 11 foundation. 12 THE WITNESS: I can answer? 13 Yes, I took that conversation to mean that 14 is what was expected of me. 15 BY MS. McCAWLEY: 16 Q. And then you mentioned, I believe, when 17 you were testifying earlier that Jeffrey told you a 18 story about sex on the plane. What was that about? 19 MS. MENNINGER: Objection, hearsay. 20 THE WITNESS: He told me one time Emmy was 21 sleeping on the plane, and they were getting 22 ready to land. And he went and woke her up, 23 and she thought that meant he wanted a blow 24 job, so she started to unzip his pants, and he 25 said, No, no, no, you just have to be awake for MAGNA9 LEGAL SERVICES Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1320-23 Filed 01/03/24 Page 8 of 10 Page 150 1 A. No. 2 Q. Was it in the context of anything? 3 A. About the camera that she had bought for 4 me. 5 Q. What did she say in relationship to the 6 camera that she bought for you and taking 7 photographs of you? 8 A. Just that Jeffrey would like to have some 9 photos of me, and she asked me to take photos of 10 myself. 11 Q. What did you say? 12 A. I don't remember saying no, but I never 13 ended up following through. I think I tried once. 14 Q. This was the pre-selfie era, correct? 15 A. Exactly. 16 Q. I want to go back to this: You testified 17 to two things just now with Sigrid that you said 18 were implied to you. 19 A. Okay. 20 Q. The first one was it would take pressure 21 off of Maxwell to have more girls around? 22 A. Right. 23 Q. What exactly did Maxwell say to you that 24 led you to believe that was her implication? 25 A. She said she doesn't have the time or MAGNA9 LEGAL SERVICES Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1320-23 Filed 01/03/24 Page 9 of 10 Page 151 1 desire to please him as much as he needs, and that's 2 why there were other girls around. 3 Q. And did she refer specifically to any 4 other girls? 5 A. No. 6 Q. Did she talk about underaged girls? 7 A. No. 8 Q. Was she talking about massage therapists? 9 A. Not specifically. 10 Q. Okay. There were other girls in the house 11 that were not massage therapists, correct? 12 A. Yes. 13 14 15 Q. correct? A. - Yes. is another person that was around, 16 Q. There were other people he traveled with? 17 A. Uh-huh. 18 MS. McCAWLEY: Objection. 19 BY MS. MENNINGER: 20 Q. Correct? 21 A. Correct. 22 Q. Other girls? 23 A. Yes. 24 Q. Adults? 25 A. Yes. MAGNA9 LEGAL SERVICES Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1320-23 Filed 01/03/24 Page 10 of 10 Page 159 1 CERTIFICATE OF OATH 2 STATE OF FLORIDA ) 3 COUNTY OF MIAMI-DADE ) 4 5 I, the undersigned authority, certify 6 that JOHANNA SJOBERG personally appeared before me 7 and was duly sworn. 8 WITNESS my hand and official seal this 9 18th day of May, 2016. 10 11 KELLI ANN WILLIS, RPR, CRR 12 Notary Public, State of Florida My Commission No. FF911443 13 Expires: 2/16/21 14 + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MAGNA9 LEGAL SERVICES