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Alright. Could you tell us who you are?
I am
How old are you M7
16.
What's your birthday?
How old were you in February of 2005?
I was 14 still.
14 or 15?
I was 14 still. When this happened I was 14 still.
You turned....
15 in May of that year.
And you just turned 16.
Yeah.
So you were just short of 15.
Hrnm,intrun.
Alright. Where do you live?
I live in Loxahatchee.
Where do you go to school?
I'm gonna be starting school at Seminole Ridge High School.
OK. That's the new high school out in ....
In Loxahatchee.
OK. Where did you go to high school in 2005?
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Royal Palm.
Where is that?
In Royal Palm. • • •
On what road? Okeechobee Boulevard?
Yeah. Probably.
What grade were you in, in 2005 when you were in Royal Palm High School.
I was in 9th grade.
Did you know someone named
Yes.
How did you know
I used to date her cousin.
OK. How old is IM?
At the time I think she was 18 or 19. I think.
Who was her cousin that you dated?
Was going to school at Royal Palm or did you know her from outside the
school?
I knew her from outside the school.
How much contact did you have with 7
I met her the night before I went to Jeffrey's house.
OK. Tell us the night about that the night when you met
was with my boyfriend El at my house and her or his aunt lives like four
streets down from mine so we went to say Hi to his aunt and stuff and he left us
there and ....
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a Have you met her before that night?
Ah, like a family football thing, like they had a family get together for a football
game and she was there but I just said Hi to her, like I never knew like who she....
Not a lot of conversations or ....
a We were just like Hi, Nice to meet you.
OK. That night you go down there. You meet her what happens?
Yeah, and then, ah, it was just like a regular night and we are hanging out
watching TV and then like it was like 11:30sh or 10 something like that and she
was like what are you doing tomorrow and I said nothing and she was like, Oh,
I'll, hmm, numn you want to make like $200. And I was like, yeah, sure and she
was like, Well you arc you gonna have to like ah, meet my friend Jeffrey and he
lives in a big humongous mansion and then he lives like on the water and all that
stuff and then I was like, like that's really cool and then she's like but you have to
give him a massage like for 40 minutes and that's all you have to do and you get
like $200 for it and its really easy, you know. I was like OK, or whatever ifs just
a massage and was like, ah, he was wanderi what ha ned and then we
just told him and then he was like arguing with and and him went to
the bathroom for like a couple of minutes to argue and had like her
boyfriend there so me and him were stuck in like a living room watching TV,
listening to them argui couple of minutes and then they came back out.
Then went outside and had called Jeffrey on the phone and Jeffrey's
assistant lady, J don't remember her name, she answered the phone and she said
she had somebody that could give Jeffrey massage tomorrow and the lady asked
how old I was and who I was. But said that I had to be 18 so she told the
lady 1 was 18 and that I went to Royal Palm, and I was a Senior and everything
and like the assistant lady would say OK, that's fine, come in tomorrow. So, all,
then I went home....
a Let me stop, you there, a couple of things. Do you know if
what they were arguing about?
and
U Yeah, because didn't want me to go, because I guess, he knew about like his
cousin kind of did that already and, ah
Did that concern you that didn't want you to go and you were agreeing to go
anyway?
Well, yeah, 'cause, well he was, I was like, I guess 'cause I was 14 and he was like
16 and stuff and he was just like don't go, don't go, don't go and I was like, well
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it's $200 and I was 14. It's $200 so I didn't really care what he said.
OK, and from listening to end of that phone conversation, the person at
Jeffrey's house was trying to verify that you were at least 18?
Hmm, mmm
OK. Is that a yes?
S Yes.
OK
And but like after she hung up the phone with the lady, she explained to me that
what, we went back inside the house and she explained to me that I was gonna
have to like, tell the lady, like make up a lie about my whole life, like if I went,
I'm graduatigglam Royal Palm already that I am 18 and all that stuff and that I
. have know I= for a long time like just to make it look like I was older and, uh,
so I agree all that stuff and then I went home for the night and then the next
morning, and another lady like another teenage girl, she was in the truck
with her and like we were leaving my house and but my dad saw and he, I told
him we were going to the mall i Beach and my dad said "OK", he didn't
have a problem and si was Or cousin and he said it was OK
that I was going with but he, like we were leixiaL* prid m was going to
help us do it pointing into my driveway and he saw ME and asked for 5
dollars for gas so my dad said like "Yeah, sure 5 dollars" whatever and then we
left and then when we got to Jeffrey's house....
Do you know Jeffrey's full name?
Jeffrey Epsteen or Epstein.
U Where was the house?
N: It's in Palm Beach, whim but then when you pull up in the driveway but
nobody was there like is like, "He's not home". So we walked up anyway,
we all get out of the car and there is like a gate that you have to walk into to go to
the backdoor and there is like a Security Guard or whatever, he has like a little
office in the back an us and he came up to the gate and he asked us what
we were there for anc rsaid Jeffrey and so the guy is like "Ah, OK". He
opened the gate, all three of us went like through the back door towards the
kitchen 'cause I guess the kitchen is right there door when you open the door, so
we were sitting like in a bar like this and we were waiting for about 15 minutes,
then Jeffrey and the Assistant walked in through the back door also and then that's
when I first met Jeffrey and he shook hands and then the lady also introduced
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herself too and then ah, the lady was talking to and the other girl for a
cou le of seconds and then Jeffrey said who's gonna go first, whatever, and uh,
, and uh, the other girls is like I don't care and then Jeffrey said ow about
you pointing to me and I was like OK and then I was looking back at and
laughing and then she was like, scooted her handy, go, she was laughing to and I
was like OK. So then we, in the kitchen, it was like a little hallway, not really but
it's like a stairway to go upstairs and we were walking up there and the Assistant
lady walks me up there and as Jeffrey was talking to them after and then she was
pointing out like all these pictures and all the stuff leaving me upstairs like a
bathroom, looks like really big though, and like there was two closets and then she
went into the one closet and pulled out the massage table and uh, set it out in front
of like this couch and then ah, she put like a little blanket or whatever over the
massage table and then she opened up a drawer and there was like a whole bunch
of different like lotions for giving massages and she just picked like a couple of
them out and just sat in the vanity table, there was a big, big mirror on the other
wall, opposite to the massage table and then, uh, and then she told me to-get
undressed put keep your bra and your panties on and I was like OK and then she
said
• Had told you about that before?
No, I thought like it was gonna be a massage like you keep your clothes on. Not
when I got to in the room that's when the lady like explain what I would have to
do. Just to get undressed and keep my bra and panties on and then...
• And did you that?
Hmm, mmm.
• Is that a yes?
• Yes.
• OK.
And then to stay in the room for a couple of seconds and then Jeffrey would be
coming in the room any minute. And then Jeffrey did come in the room, he said
Hi and he shook my hand again but then he went out of the room and he got just a
towel on and then he came into the room again and laid belly down on the
massage table.
• OK. Stop a minute what did this man look like? This Jeffrey Epstein.
Old.
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coming in the room any minute. And then Jeffrey did come in the room, he said
Hi and he shook my hand again but then he went out of the room and he got just a
towel on and then he came into the room again and laid belly down on the
massage table.
a OK. Stop a minute what did this man look like? This Jeffrey Epstein.
• Old.
(Laughter)
How old?
Ah, he looked like 50sh maybe, 40s.
U OK. Ah, how he was he dressed when you initially met him?
U Like he was going golfing, he just like ah, Polo t-shirt on and khaki pants.
OK and how were you met when your first went to his house, DRESSED when
you first went to his house?
• Ah, I was wearing a regular t-shirt, my hollister shirt and just some jeans.
• OK. What kind of undwear did you have on?
A thong.
U And the bra, what type of bra?
It was a bra.
No special...
a •••• Ah, all
a But thong underwear. Were you uncomfortable getting down to your bra and
underwear?
• Aha, like I was kind of hesitant, I was like sitting in the room for, until Jeffrey
came in, like thinking to myself, well, like what's going on? Like I don't know, I
was kind of hesitant but then I just didn't care 'cause I wanted $200 'cause
wanted to spend it and so I just ....
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OK, alright. So he comes out and he's in a towel. Start from there.
And he like laid on the massage table, on his stomach and then he told me like I
should grab any of the three lotions that she had put down on the table and so I
just grabbed one of them and then I just gave, like I sat. First I was sitting on the
table because he was sitting on the table and I was kind like, I just stood up and
then I started to give him a massage and then he's making conversation asking me
exactly what he was gonna tell me to dq like it,was,high school,do you go to and
all that stuff, so...
Did he ask you how old you were?
Aha.
And what did you tell him?
I told him I was 18. And, ah, he asked me like what dol like to do on my spare
time and I said I dance and all the stuff and just asked me some small talk. And
then he's like, oh, well you don't need to stand up, you can sit on the table and, so I
sat on the table and I was giving him a massage and I think the massage was a
couple of minutes like 15 or 20 minutes and this all time we were just
conversating about anything and he was telling how he had another house in New
York and just all the stuff that I was like amused by and then, ah, after like 20
minutes of giving him a massage or 30 minutes or something. It was around that
time, he asked me if I wanted to make an extra S100 and ah, all, that he had to
Before we get there me just ask you a couple things. You said that the Assistant
had you undressed.
a Hrtun, mmm.
a Is that yes?
Yeah.
Do you remember telling Detective that it was Jeffrey Epstein that asked
you to undress.
No, I'm positive it wasn't Jeffrey, 'cause he didn't come in the room 'till after I was
already in my underwear and my bra.
OK. That's in her report, that's incorrect.
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ili that you were actually straddling him and your...
Yeah, that's what I got on the table after he, after a couple of minutes.
U And you were straddling him with your
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Yeah. Well, kind of there's a towel. Like it was kind of cove' • butt but not
v • tt. It was ea covering his butt but
So if she wrote: You slated you exposed your bare buttocks
That be kind of correct,
S OK
Yeah, I guess you can say that.
So how long did that go on when you are sitting on top of him?
si The, until, like the massage part was over and then he is, ah, like asked, well,
would you like to make an extra 5100 and 1 said sure. And then he's like but I, I
alt have to like you're not gonna be giving me a massage anymore. Ifs gonna be
something different and I was like, oh, what is it? Can I use a vibrator on you?
And I said OK. And then, so then he got up and he went to like the, like other
room for a couple of seconds, like literally couple seconds and then came back to
the room. And next to the little vanity, big mirror and on the big table, there was
on the floor, it was just like the vibrator or what it look like a vibrator to me.
What did it look like?
It was like purple. And it was kind like a massager but not really. Like it look
like a massager but it wasn't really a massager.
What was it shaped like?
Ah, like circular on the top and then it was like a handle on the bottom.
OK, alright.
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And then, ah, after he grabbed that, he laid back on the table and, except this time
he was on his back and I was partially on the table like half of my butt cheek and • 4.
my leg was on the table and the one leg was on the floor, like sometime I put it on
the couch. Like 'cause the couch was right here and the table was right there so
it's kind of close and 1, he told me to keep giving him a massage but to give a
massage on his chest.
So you're sitting on the table and he's standing up.
• No, no, he was laying back on the table, like I was kind of on the table. Half of
my butt and my leg was on the table and the other half was like on the couch.
OK, but he's laying down now?
• Aha.
OK.
And, ah, then I was giving massage on his chest and he was still talking for a
couple of minutes and then he used the vibrator and like that was for like for 10
. minutes maybe or so, I think.
• Now, I hate, I have to be detailed here. Where was he using the vibrator?
What can I say, all over I don't know what else to say.
OK, alright. Go ahead.
And then, after for a couple of minutes, that's what he was doiniiierked off for
like a couple of minutes, ah, like I was still on the table and ah, told me that
if be, like if he does that you have to give more money because that's like. He
gives you extra money if he jerks off anyway 'cause I guess it's some his rule or
whatever....
U Had told you that before?
U Hrnm, mm. She told me that like the night that I, like had this whole conversation
with her and she told me about it.
OK. So she just didn't tell you were going for a massage. She told you that there
you might have to take your clothes off?
No. She didn't tell me that I have to take my clothes off but she said that if he
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jerks off in front of you, then you can get more money.
OK. So when he offered the extra S100, you had a pretty good idea what was
coming next?
Yeah.
OK.
And, ah...
And when yo said jerk off, what do you mean?
He put his hand on his pads and started going up and down kind of fast.
OK. Could you see his penis at that point?
AM.
1
Is that a yes?
Yes.
Alright, go ahead. That went on for how long?
A couple of seconds maybe, like, yeah, like 40 seconds and then ah, and then after
that, like the massage was over and he went into the, out the other door, back to
where, I couldn't see where he was going 'cause the door was this way and he
walked out and I guess he had like, ah, his money behind the door becaule it only
took him a couple of seconds for him to come back in the room and then he
opened this money, like this block and give me 300 dollar bills and he told me
thank you and then he's like, ah, there's a notepad there next to the couch and he
told me to write my name, my number 'cause I had a cell phone at the time and he
told me to write my cell phone number down, and ah, how he can get a hold of me.
and all this stuff. So I wrote my number down, and wrote my name and then after
that he just left the room and told me I can get you again and that it was done, I
was over.
Did you actually see him -ejaculate?
U No.
Did he not ejaculate or you didn't see that ?
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If he did, I didn't see.
Ah, do you recall telling Detective happened in a different sequence?
No.
And that he masturbated first before he put the vibrator on your vagina?
Mmm, maybe this was like two and a half years ago, so ....
N: OK.
That could've happened.
Do you recall not telling her about the vibrator at all the first time you talked to
her?
Yeah. I remembered that because I was scared.
OK. Why were you scared about that and not scared telling her that he ejaculated
or masturbated in front of you?
'Cause that's his body and the vibrator on my body.
• So you didn't want to admit that you allowed him to touch you?
Yeah.
OK. And he gave you S300, you left your number so he can contact you again?
Yes.
OK. Ah, when you left the room what happened? You got dressed, did he take
you downstairs or did you go downstairs by yourself?
I just went downstairs by myself.
Who was down there? Was still down there?
Aha. The, was there and the other girl was there and the Assistant lady she
might have been there but I don't know, I can't remember but then after that. ah,
we left. Like they don't do anything, they didn't, she got money but she didn't do
anything.
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