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FD-302 (Rev. 5-8-10)
FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
Dateactury 10/08/2021
), date of birth (DOB) DATE, was interviewed over
video conference. Present via video was Assistant United States Attorneys
and , along with Special Agent Young. After
being advised of the identities of the above listed individuals and the
nature of the interview, provided the following information:
met GHISLAINE MAXWELL (MAXWELL) at JEFFREY EPSTEIN's (EPSTEIN) house
in Palm Beach, Florida. was offered a receptionist job by MAXWELL.
MAXWELL asked to bring a couple of friends with her.
recalled EPSTEIN's home was along the intercostal. was under
the impression that MAXWELL and EPSTEIN both lived there.
was attending the PALM BEACH ATLANTIC UNIVERSITY when MAXWELL first
approached her. was by herself when MAXWELL approached her out of the
blue and asked if was interested in secretary work. told her no.
MAXWELL asked if she would be interested if it was for $200 an hour.
told her "sure". asked MAXWELL where she had to go. MAXWELL
wrote down directions and gave her phone number.
recalled she went to EPSTEIN's home around 2001, sometime around
9/11 because recalled watching TV together with them in the kitchen
when anthrax was found in West Palm Beach.
MAXWELL told she would be answering phones and helping with
paperwork. MAXWELL did not say who would be working for.
described EPSTEIN's house. The driveway had taller hedges. When
she walked in there was a black and white photograph of a topless woman.
was from the midwest and had never been around rich people like that.
In the room to the left was where MAXWELL had asked to shred books. In
the room to the right was an open area that had doors to the pool. There
Investigationon 10/08/2021 at New York, New York, United States (In Person)
File# SOD-NY-3027571 Date drafted 10/08/2021
by Nicole Young
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was a room that was MAXWELL's office that had doors with glass. There was a
kitchen and bedrooms upstairs.
worked there for approximately six to nine months. explained
that she was doing drugs at the time so it was hard to say how long she
stayed there.
went to the house when they called her. At first, she went quite a
bit, a couple times a week. It was inconsistent. She would go weeks
without being there.
MAXWELL had told to bring friends that were interested in work.
MAXWELL did not explain what her friends would be doing. When first
went, she took her two college roommates, and did not
recall their last names. described as a tall blonde and
was heavier set. MAXWELL did not like or MAXWELL
did not like because she was heavier set.
EPSTEIN, MAXWELL, and another girl lived at the house. The girl lived in
one of the upstairs bedrooms. described the girl as thinner with light
brown or dirty blonde hair. met the girl at the house. MAXWELL
introduced the girl and to each other. The girl showed around the
house. They went upstairs and got naked on the massage tables. There was a
guy there when and the girl got massages. This guy taught them to give
massages. described the guy as having dark hair and being a couple of
inches taller than is 5'4". only saw the guy 2 to 3 times.
The girl was the one who showed things there. The girl worked for
them. was 20 years old at the time and thought the girl was around her
age. assumed the girl was around her age. thought the girl could
have been a year younger or older than her. was not sure of the girl's
actual age.
MAXWELL asked to call a ballet school in West Palm Beach. MAXWELL
wanted to ask girls to come over. MAXWELL said she had done ballet
when she was younger and wanted to get her ballet skills back. MAXWELL
wanted younger people who were more limber. MAXWELL wanted to make sure the
massage table was set up. thought she may have assumed MAXWELL wanted
the guy there because he gave massages but was not sure. called
the ballet school but did not remember if she scheduled anyone. did
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not see them.
MAXWELL asked to give EPSTEIN massages. MAXWELL asked to
answer the phones. was only allowed to answer 2-3 of the 8 phone
lines. MAXWELL told how to answer the phones. thought she
remembered her telling her how to transfer and how to make the calls.
MAXWELL gave a lot of cash to get movie tickets for them from the
theater at City Place.
MAXWELL had shred phone books that MAXWELL had made. described
the phone books as being "not quite half a page" and being bound. The phone
books were cloth like and had a hard back and hard binding that was black
almost like a sketch book. When they updated the books, had to take
the pages out and shred them. described the room where she shredded
the books being on the first floor down the hallway that looked like an
office but did not look used. The room was pretty empty with not much
decor.
only gave massages to EPSTEIN. MAXWELL told to just remember
what she learned from the massage therapist. The first massage gave
EPSTEIN was out by the pool. recalled EPSTEIN having a chart of gray
colors and told her to come help him pick out a color gray for his jet.
started massaging EPSTEIN's feet and legs.
recalled she did not wear much back then. She wore short shorts and
was skinny so she hardly wore anything to cover her stomach.
EPSTEIN was "handsy" and "touchy feely". EPSTEIN was not afraid to say
what he liked or did not like. When massaged EPSTEIN it would only be
the two of them. described that they could be seen from the living
room area but the doors were shut. EPSTEIN touched "all over",
including on her breasts, waste, thighs, and probably grabbed her "ass".
When EPSTEIN touched her breasts, had a shirt on. EPSTEIN touched her
breasts over and under her shirt. At the time, had never had sex
before. gave EPSTEIN massages in the lawn chair by the pool.
thought EPSTEIN was wearing a shirt and shorts. also gave
EPSTEIN a massage in the kitchen, but it was not a fully body massage.
Upstairs massages were more intimate. felt that the upstairs seemed
more intimate. knew the downstairs area; she did not feel free to roam
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upstairs. There were massages done upstairs. The girl had a room
upstairs. The girl shared with that they had guests that stayed
upstairs. The girl took care of those guests. understanding was
that by the girl taking care of those guests that was how she was able to
live there. The girl said they were visitors. thought the girl had
told her she lived there but did not remember.
When first went to EPSTEIN's home, she saw the black and white
photograph. also saw a woman who had on only bikini bottoms and a
towel walk through. thought that was how rich people lived by having
beautiful naked people around.
understanding was that EPSTEIN and MAXWELL were boyfriend and
girlfriend; they lived together. It was made clear to that it was
their house. The phone lines were for them. Now that has thought
back, she did not recall seeing them kissing or being intimate. saw
that they lived and worked there together. did not care to understand
and did not ask questions. assumed they lived there or it was their
second home. EPSTEIN and MAXWELL were always there when was there.
was never at their home without them.
thought she remembered all men calling the phone lines. did
not remember what they called about. did not remember if there were
women calling.
MAXWELL paid $200 an hour in 100 dollar bills.
stopped working for them around the time she got kicked out of
school. recalled she flew home for Christmas in 2001 and then flew
back. stopped working for them around 2002. was more into
partying and snorting cocaine than working. recalled she was staying
with a family with the last name TUNIS. slept on their couch for a
while. recalled coming in to the home and seeing the mom, SUE TUNIS,
sitting at the table with two officers. The officers, who were a man and
woman, told they were investigating a prostitution ring. thought
they were from the VICE squad. They asked if she would continue to go
back to the house to get more information. said no and left Palm
Beach. This interaction with law enforcement stuck out to because she
had never got in trouble or talked with the police prior to that.
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recalled when she first started going to EPSTEIN's home, she told
her mom that she was going to rich people's home and making a lot of money.
mom called the university and said something was wrong. The school
told her mom that everything was fine.
had not thought about this in years until seeing EPSTEIN's arrest.
husband knows that she worked there but does not know everything.
felt like MAXWELL recruited her "off the bat" and felt like MAXWELL
was going to use her to recruit other girls.
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