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Re: Glass steagall

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few thoughts on Neera's note: 1. One, I think we can blur Glass Steagall a bit more. Instead of just saying we are against, explain what aspects she is for. After all, Volker Rule is kind of designed to fend off worst mixing of banking and investing etc. Maybe she can say, I do support doing more to protect against the type risky mixing of traditional banking and Wall Street practices which Glass Steagall was designed to affect, which is why I am for strengthening the Volker Rule and doing.... 2. We need to give her a more visceral hit of the complete and utter failure of the Bush Administration for crisis. So instead of giving a lecture on why 1998 law did not cause crisis (however much I want to do this!) she pivots fully on offense into a full throated hit on Bush Administration and replacing Arthur Levitt with Cox and their complete failure to regulate Wall Street. So more time on offense as to how Bush causes crisis and less time on defense. 3. Instead of being against breaking up banks based on size and explaining why risk is the key, maybe say, I am for breaking up banks before too big to fail -- only difference is I am applying two criteria: how big they are and how risky and unmanageable they are. If we just focus on size we will miss breaking up and regulating those practices that are most responsible for crisis. So again, it feel less like "no" on breaking up biggest banks, it feels more like "yes" - but here is the smart way to do it. So common theme on these comments is not to cave on Glass Steagall or bank size -- but to have more of a feel of agreeing but explaining why she has the smartest way to do it, as opposed to explaining why she is against. Sent from my iPhone > On 11 Sep 2015, at 11:17, Neera Tanden <[email protected]> wrote: > > i think most people know I worry that this is the closest thing to an Iraq vote we have to face us. And a big potential problem in the debate. > > Why can't she say the following: > Too big to fail are problems. Should never happen again etc. I will take steps - higher cap requirements, whatever you have on list -to ensure we protect Americans. I think those will work better. > > I will work every day to make sure we protect Americans so they never suffer for the excesses on Wall Street. But if banks are growing too big to manage and we need to take these steps tetc etc, believe me I will work to reinstate glass steagall in a heartbeat bc this Americans losing so much for the banks can never happen again. > > She's not conceding it was responsible for the financial crisis. But her openness will be better than a hard and fast position that puts her on the bank side of the ledger. > > Anyway I just offer it as a thought. 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([2600:1010:b023:2f5d:3449:24e2:d9a5:b618]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id zf5sm1739324pbc.36.2015.09.11.11.54.20 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 11 Sep 2015 11:54:20 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Gene Sperling <[email protected]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 11:49:23 -0700 Message-Id: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Glass steagall In-Reply-To: <CAJiTYQYmTEZLZkrtj0MmKfd6eVYN+ZvUyyYb1m+iSgKLuUdBkQ@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAJiTYQYmTEZLZkrtj0MmKfd6eVYN+ZvUyyYb1m+iSgKLuUdBkQ@mail.gmail.com> To: Neera Tanden <[email protected]> CC: Jake Sullivan <[email protected]>, John Podesta <[email protected]>, Gary Gensler <[email protected]>, Mike Schmidt <[email protected]>, Michael Shapiro <[email protected]>, David Kamin <[email protected]> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (12B436) A few thoughts on Neera's note: 1. One, I think we can blur Glass Steagall a bit more. Instead of just sayin= g we are against, explain what aspects she is for. After all, Volker Rule is= kind of designed to fend off worst mixing of banking and investing etc. May= be she can say, I do support doing more to protect against the type risky mi= xing of traditional banking and Wall Street practices which Glass Steagall w= as designed to affect, which is why I am for strengthening the Volker Rule a= nd doing.... 2. We need to give her a more visceral hit of the complete and utter failure= of the Bush Administration for crisis. So instead of giving a lecture on wh= y 1998 law did not cause crisis (however much I want to do this!) she pivots= fully on offense into a full throated hit on Bush Administration and replac= ing Arthur Levitt with Cox and their complete failure to regulate Wall Stree= t. So more time on offense as to how Bush causes crisis and less time on def= ense. 3. Instead of being against breaking up banks based on size and explaining w= hy risk is the key, maybe say, I am for breaking up banks before too big to f= ail -- only difference is I am applying two criteria: how big they are and h= ow risky and unmanageable they are. If we just focus on size we will miss br= eaking up and regulating those practices that are most responsible for crisi= s. So again, it feel less like "no" on breaking up biggest banks, it feels m= ore like "yes" - but here is the smart way to do it.=20 So common theme on these comments is not to cave on Glass Steagall or bank s= ize -- but to have more of a feel of agreeing but explaining why she has the= smartest way to do it, as opposed to explaining why she is against.=20 Sent from my iPhone > On 11 Sep 2015, at 11:17, Neera Tanden <[email protected]> wrote: >=20 > i think most people know I worry that this is the closest thing to an Iraq= vote we have to face us. And a big potential problem in the debate.=20 >=20 > Why can't she say the following: > Too big to fail are problems. Should never happen again etc. I will take s= teps - higher cap requirements, whatever you have on list -to ensure we prot= ect Americans. I think those will work better. =20 >=20 > I will work every day to make sure we protect Americans so they never suff= er for the excesses on Wall Street. But if banks are growing too big to ma= nage and we need to take these steps tetc etc, believe me I will work to re= instate glass steagall in a heartbeat bc this Americans losing so much for t= he banks can never happen again.=20 >=20 > She's not conceding it was responsible for the financial crisis. But her o= penness will be better than a hard and fast position that puts her on the ba= nk side of the ledger.=20 >=20 > Anyway I just offer it as a thought.=20
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