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on On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 9:44 PM, Jennifer Palmieri < [email protected]> wrote: > I am on the train but can dial on now. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 20, 2015, at 9:43 PM, Cheryl Mills <[email protected]> wrote: > > phil and jen > > can we get on the phone? > > I asked b/c I know I spoke with phil about this: > > 1. the goal is to submit statement for the record to meet the committee's > request for her opening statment [phil recommends] > > 2. it is not the same as what she actually will say on thurs [everyone's > point to preserve freshness of her statement] > > 3. the easiest way to do the first and not compromise the second was to > re-submit her opening statment from jan 2013 rather than writing something > new. > > 4. I can't tell if you are saying: a) agree with submitting her statement > early but don't like the idea of using her prior opening statement; b) > don't like the new opening statement and some of the new elements or c) > something all together different. > > *I can join a call on 605-475-4700 <605-475-4700>; code 306848 anytime > from now until 1030pm but would love to address tonight rather than > tomorrow.* > > best.s > > cdm > > On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 8:45 PM, Jennifer Palmieri < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> I talked to Brian. So long as we do not release the testimony ahead of >> the hearing - it is okay. If we released it ahead of time, the press would >> ding is for trolling the Committee and we would lose some of the moral high >> ground we have going into the hearing. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Oct 20, 2015, at 7:38 PM, Dan Schwerin <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Jen, that's correct. Should we revisit that decision? (I'm attaching a >> revised statement for the record changing 10 committees to 7 Congressional >> investigations). >> >> Also attaching here an updated oral opening statement for Thursday with >> some new "this is political" language that folks should review. >> >> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 6:41 PM, Jennifer Palmieri < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Know I missed discussions today - but this seems dangerous. If I >>> understand this correctly - we are literally submitting her testimony from >>> two years ago? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Oct 20, 2015, at 6:22 PM, Phil Barnett <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> The introductory text has this line: "As you know, what happened in >>> Benghazi has been scrutinized by a non-partisan accountability review >>> board, more than 10 congressional committees, multiple news organizations, >>> and law enforcement and intelligence agencies." >>> >>> I think we would be safer if we changed "more than 10 congressional >>> committees" to "seven prior congressional investigations." >>> >>> Phil >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Dan Schwerin < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> After further discussions, I believe the latest plan for this >>>> "statement for the record" is to submit the verbatim text of her 1/23/13 >>>> opening statement but not the Hard Choices chapter. I'm attaching that >>>> here and please take another look at the introductory text. >>>> Thanks >>>> Dan >>>> >>>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Kendall, David <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Can we get this out by end of afternoon? >>>>> >>>>> *From*: Cheryl Mills [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>> *Sent*: Monday, October 19, 2015 10:46 PM >>>>> *To*: Mandy Grunwald <[email protected]> >>>>> *Cc*: Dan Schwerin <[email protected]>; Kendall, David; >>>>> [email protected] <[email protected]>; Turner, >>>>> Katherine; [email protected] <[email protected]>; >>>>> [email protected] <[email protected]>; >>>>> [email protected] <[email protected]>; >>>>> [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] < >>>>> [email protected]>; [email protected] < >>>>> [email protected]>; [email protected] < >>>>> [email protected]>; [email protected] < >>>>> [email protected]>; [email protected] < >>>>> [email protected]>; [email protected] < >>>>> [email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]> >>>>> *Subject*: Re: DRAFT: Opening Statement >>>>> >>>>> I would do both >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:44 PM, Mandy Grunwald <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Seems odd to put the tributes to the four guys into this statement, >>>>>> since it is mostly the repackaged testimony. We can't overdo the tributes >>>>>> to them and I think they should be done in person. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thx >>>>>> >>>>>> Mandy Grunwald >>>>>> Grunwald Communications >>>>>> 202 973-9400 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 19, 2015, at 8:33 PM, Dan Schwerin < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> And here is a potential statement for the record, repackaging her >>>>>> previous testimony and book chapter. I included pretty much the entire >>>>>> chapter, because I'm not sure what the benefit is in cutting it down, but >>>>>> happy to do that if others think that's better. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 7:03 PM, Dan Schwerin < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Here is a revised opening statement that now includes grace notes >>>>>>> about the four victims and a reference to the excerpts of previous >>>>>>> testimony submitted for the record. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 10:57 PM, Dan Schwerin < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Here is another updated draft, which I am going to share with HRC >>>>>>>> as well. >>>>>>>> Dan >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Kendall, David <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I like it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My one question: in the 6th graf, before "At this point . . .", >>>>>>>>> should the following be inserted--"After previously testifying about this >>>>>>>>> matter in both the Senate and the House,"? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *From*: Dan Schwerin [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>>>>> *Sent*: Sunday, October 18, 2015 01:40 PM >>>>>>>>> *To*: Jake Sullivan <[email protected]>; Turner, >>>>>>>>> Katherine; Mandy Grunwald <[email protected]>; Jennifer Palmieri < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]>; Kendall, David; John Podesta < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]>; Adrienne Elrod <[email protected]>; >>>>>>>>> Philippe Reines <[email protected]>; Sara Latham < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]>; Cheryl Mills <[email protected]>; >>>>>>>>> Heather Samuelson <[email protected]>; Brian Fallon < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]>; Huma Abedin <[email protected]>; >>>>>>>>> Phil Schiliro <[email protected]>; Phil Barnett < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]>; Matt Siegler <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> *Subject*: Re: DRAFT: Opening Statement >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Flagging this draft again in hopes folks can take a look. >>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>> Dan >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Dan Schwerin < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Here's a revised opening statement based on our discussion this >>>>>>>>>> morning. >>>>>>>>>> Dan >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Jake Sullivan < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This is a big line of Gowdy questioning. How did you strike >>>>>>>>>>> balance? Elsewhere you so close up shop when things get dangerous. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 17, 2015, at 10:22 AM, Turner, Katherine <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> One further thought on the current draft: we might consider >>>>>>>>>>> softening the “Chris did not believe retreat was an option – and neither do >>>>>>>>>>> I” line. I don’t think we want to suggest that there was a commitment to >>>>>>>>>>> be there at any and all costs; but rather, that the known risks were being >>>>>>>>>>> balanced with the reasons for being there, regular assessments of this >>>>>>>>>>> balance were made, and that the people on the ground were best-positioned >>>>>>>>>>> to contribute to those assessments. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Katherine Turner* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Williams & Connolly LLP* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 725 Twelfth Street, N.W., Washington, DC 20005 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> (P) 202-434-5487 | (F) 202-434-5029 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] | www.wc.com/kturner >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Dan Schwerin [mailto:[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>] >>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, October 16, 2015 8:07 PM >>>>>>>>>>> *To:* Mandy Grunwald; Jennifer Palmieri; Kendall, David; Jake >>>>>>>>>>> Sullivan; John Podesta; Adrienne Elrod; Philippe Reines; Sara Latham; >>>>>>>>>>> Cheryl Mills; Heather Samuelson; Turner, Katherine; Brian Fallon; Huma >>>>>>>>>>> Abedin; Phil Schiliro; Phil Barnett; Matt Siegler >>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: DRAFT: Opening Statement >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> A few more edits after talking with Phil S >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 7:42 PM, Dan Schwerin < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Here are some modest revisions. Am going to send this over to >>>>>>>>>>> HRC so she can start thinking about it as well. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks all. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Dan >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 7:00 PM, Dan Schwerin < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> That "backs of dead Americans" line is stolen from Hard Choices, >>>>>>>>>>> so maybe a good idea to tweak slightly anyhow. I'll play with some >>>>>>>>>>> alternatives. If folks have other concerns before I send on to HRC, please >>>>>>>>>>> let me know. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Mandy Grunwald <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I also think it's strong. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I don't mind the "backs of dead Americans" because we need a bit >>>>>>>>>>> of moral outrage. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I suppose we can dial the language back, but the sense of >>>>>>>>>>> outrage should remain. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Mandy Grunwald* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Grunwald Communications* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *202 973-9400 <202%20973-9400>* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>> From: Jennifer Palmieri <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> To: Kendall, David <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Dan Schwerin <[email protected]>; Jake Sullivan < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>; John Podesta < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>; Adrienne Elrod < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>; Mandy Grunwald <[email protected]>; >>>>>>>>>>> Philippe Reines <[email protected]>; Sara Latham < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>; Cheryl Mills < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>; Heather Samuelson < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>; Turner, Katherine <[email protected]>; >>>>>>>>>>> Brian Fallon <[email protected]>; Huma Abedin < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>; Phil Schiliro < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>; Phil Barnett <[email protected]>; >>>>>>>>>>> Matt Siegler <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Fri, Oct 16, 2015 6:04 pm >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: DRAFT: Opening Statement >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I think it is good. Imagine the clip they will use is the >>>>>>>>>>> partisan slugfest sentence. I don't love "backs of dead Americans" in that >>>>>>>>>>> sentence. I think that is too graphic and splashes back on her as >>>>>>>>>>> appearing to exploit their deaths. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 16, 2015, at 3:40 PM, Kendall, David <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I like it. Just two thoughts. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> We twice call the ARB “independent”—I’d prefer to call it >>>>>>>>>>> “non-partisan” as we do once in the draft. *Hard Choices* did >>>>>>>>>>> not call it “independent”, and since it’s appointed by and responsible to >>>>>>>>>>> the Secretary, I think we open an avenue of attack by calling it >>>>>>>>>>> “independent”. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Can we get some more numbers into the early “diplomacy is >>>>>>>>>>> dangerous” discussion? Sixty-six American diplomatic personnel and over a >>>>>>>>>>> hundred contractors and locally employed staff killed since the 1970’s (or >>>>>>>>>>> whatever the numbers are). I recognize we have some numbers on page 3 >>>>>>>>>>> (Beirut bombing, 1998 attacks). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *David E. Kendall* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Williams & Connolly LLP* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 725 Twelfth Street, N.W., Washington, DC 20005 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> (P) 202-434-5145 | (F) 202-434-5029 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] | www.wc.com/dkendall >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Dan Schwerin [mailto:[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>] >>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, October 16, 2015 2:31 PM >>>>>>>>>>> *To:* Jake Sullivan; John Podesta; Adrienne Elrod; Mandy >>>>>>>>>>> Grunwald; Philippe Reines; Sara Latham; Cheryl Mills; Heather Samuelson; >>>>>>>>>>> Kendall, David; Turner, Katherine; Brian Fallon; Jennifer Palmieri; Huma >>>>>>>>>>> Abedin; Phil Schiliro; Phil Barnett; Matt Siegler >>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* DRAFT: Opening Statement >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Here is a draft of HRC's opening statement based on our >>>>>>>>>>> discussion today. As Cheryl mentioned, we'd love to get this to HRC for a >>>>>>>>>>> first read tonight or tomorrow, so quick feedback would be great. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Dan >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This message and any attachments are intended only for the >>>>>>>>>>> addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. >>>>>>>>>>> If you have received this message in error, please do not read, use, copy, >>>>>>>>>>> distribute, or disclose the contents of the message and any attachments. >>>>>>>>>>> Instead, please delete the message and any attachments and notify the >>>>>>>>>>> sender immediately. Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> <2015-10-19 Statement for the Record - 8pm.docx> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> <2015-10-20 Benghazi Testimony - 730pm.docx> >> >> <2015-10-20 Statement for the Record - 630pm.docx> >> >> >