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From: "McCaffrey, Carlyn"
To: Jeffrey Epstein <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Re:
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 02:16:47 +0000
Where can you get prices? I didn't think there were any traded 10-year call options. What kind of price do you think
there would be for a 10-year call on with a strike price equal to a stock's current market price?
Carlyn S. McCaffrey I Partner
-menamme-wil-IA Emery LLP I 340 Madison Avenue, New York, NY 10173
From: Jeffrey Epstein [mailtoleevacation@gmallcom]
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 6:29 PM
To: McCaffrey, Carlyn
Subject: Re:
we can actuallyl get prices. we could make them european, only excericable at expiration. etc. yes
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 7:24 PM, McCaffrey, Carlyn > wrote:
I know that the relationship between the strike price and current value are important factors in determining the
price of an option but aren't the length of the option and the volatility of the stock also very important? If there
are no 10 year publicly traded options we would have to get an appraisal.
Are you sure that a purchase be LB of the partnership interest followed by a sale by him of a call isn't caught by
16b?
On Feb 10, 2013, at 11:37 AM, "Jeffrey Epstein" <[email protected]> wrote:
I. according to the strike, price, 2. the economic effect can be manged in the document. 3, security wise lock
up is only concern as long as it happens near the same time and is not deep in the money, 4, the price of the
option reflects the risk of that,
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 12:27 PM, McCaffrey, Carlyn < > wrote:
What would the price of a 10 year option be?
Although he can buy the PS interest , the call will have to be on the stock itself.
Your structure bypasses 2703 because LB will never deliver the stock pursuant to the option. The economic
effect, however, is the same. That's why some think it doesn't work.
What are the securities law consequences of LB buying stock and the selling a call?
Does the purchaser of a publicly traded call risk the possibility that the stock value will not increase because all
the growth will be paid out in dividends?
On Feb 10, 2013, at 10:36 AM, "Jeffrey Epstein" <[email protected]> wrote:
good first try, yes call options are publicly traded, we would do five to ten year terms„ he could purchase
the partner ship interest i guess, valuation the issue , he could decide on how much, we wouldn't need to
bypass 2703, the stock would be full value but there would be an liability against it , which could not be
ignored. he would not need much money to live as he would have the full dividends.
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On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 11:16 AM, McCaffrey, Carlyn < wrote:
I agree (although at least one of my partners does not) that you can avoid the reach of section 2703 with a cash settled
option.
How would we price the option? Are call options on the stock publicly traded? How are dividends treated under the
normal stock option?
Here's how I understand your proposal.
Step 1- LB buys stock from Trust (T) for $1B. LB issues a $1B note to T bearing interest at X%. and secured by a lien
on his art. We need to discuss what X should be. We also need to think about the mechanics which are made a little
difficult by the fact that the stock is held in a partnership. We also need to think about the fact that much of his art is
already subject to a lien held by US Trust.
Step #2 - LB sells a 2 year call to T. The price for the call is $.1B (obviously, a rough estimate); the strike price is the
current market price.
Step #3 - During the 2 year period of the call, LB spends the $.1B on living expenses, taxes, art, etc.
Step #4 -Alternative 1- the $1B worth of stock is now worth $1.2 B. LB owes T .2 Billion. He issues a note to settle the
option. No income tax consequences because of grantor trust rules. The trust is ahead but not as much as it would
have been if it hadn't entered into the transaction but LB's spending needs have been taken care of.
Step #4 - Alternative 2 - the $13 worth of stock is still worth $1B. LB owes T nothing. T has lost .1B, but LB's spending
needs have been taken care of.
Step#5 - LB sells another 2 year call to T, etc.
There are no income tax consequences because of the grantor trust rules.
What are the securities law consequences? Are any of these transactions covered by Rule 16b? Do these transactions
have to be reported?
Is this what you had in mind?
Carlyn S. McCaffrey I Partner
Mr Ilnren r.44 Will 1, Emery LLP I 340 Madison Avenue, New York, NY 10173
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From: Jeffrey Epstein [mailto:jeevacabon gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 8:11 PM
To: McCaffrey, Carlyn
Subject:
i have reviewed the 2703 regs, i don't see the issue, if the trust buys an option, at market, today and the
stock goes up, the stock gets valued at the fair market , but the cash settled option comes due reducing the
value of the estate. , bringing the same net result. and even better if debra gets the stock with a step up,
what am i misssing?
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