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From: "jeffrey E." <[email protected]>
To: Lawrence Krauss
Subject: Re:
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2018 19:01:41 +0000
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On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 8:56 PM, Lawrence Krauss < > wrote:
This is very kind and generous of you, and later, when I am no longer employed, but arranging an amazing set
of events in NYC for you, I will try and earn back that kind gift.
Should I just go ahead and put it on my credit card then? Or should I send you the link to pay?
Truly, thank you Jeffrey.
Lawrence M. Krauss
Director, The Origins Project at ASU
Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative
Foundation Professor
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On Apr 4, 2018, at 11:51 AM, jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wrote:
as i am agaisnt it for all the reasons i have given you , but understand your bullheadedness the face of a
perfect string of wrong predictions. I will pay the retainer of course. you will pay the addtional 10k so you
understand how silly it is,.
On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 8:47 PM, Lawrence Krauss < wrote:
ACD:401, which governs the investigation, and P20, with regulations that govern it, which were given to
me during my last meeting, specifically says it is Title IX coordinator who will coordinate with Office of
Equity and Inclusion in these matters..
I have signed the form retaining Dillon's office.. It will not become effective until I send in the $15K
retainer. I can do that by credit card or check. Please let me know how I should handle this..
Thanks.
Lawrence M. Krauss
Director, The Origins Project at ASU
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On Apr 4, 2018, at 11:26 AM, jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wrote:
before you do that ask erin if this is a title iX issue. or not.
On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 7:57 PM, Lawrence Krauss < > wrote:
I should add that by no means will I intend to have Justin accompany me next Tues.. I want to seek
his advice on how to respond to what I hear.
Lawrence M. Krauss
Director, The Origins Project at MU
Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative
Foundation Professor
School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department
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On Apr 4, 2018, at 10:54 AM, Lawrence Krauss < > wrote:
Jeffrey.. Thanks very much for your advice.. We are not yet in the labor law phase.... nowhere near
that yet.. We are in the OEI investigation phase, and I repeat they are tasked merely with deciding
what, if any violations of university policy they view as probably having occurred. Moreover, all she
was doing was covering her bases.. She didn't indicate whether the allegations that were reported to
the University were based on the University reaching out to individuals after the Buzzfeed story who
then wrote to the University. There are a host of questions that need to be answered. and wiggle room
with questions at or after meeting... Moreover, just because someone from Mongolia complains about
me does not mean the University is empowered to investigate that.. In any case, just FYI.. I am
sending you the section of the ABOR regulations on Dismissal or Suspension of Tenured faculty, so
you will see it is a long process that extends way beyond what I am embarking on next week.
In any case, as a result, I am taking the following action today. I want to continue listen carefully to
your advice, believe it or not, but I need to feel I have a legal expert familiar with Title IX to talk with
as well, and there is no perfect person.. but Nancy and I have decided to retain Justin, who, while
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perhaps too eager to be combative at this stage, will work for me, and not vice versa, and has
extensive experience with university processes, including at ASU. His main interest is making the
process fair, and if it is not, holding the University accountable after the fact. I think that meshes with
my goal as well. I do feel much better about him than I did about having Johnny's lawyer, which was
delusional on my part. Plus I will be much more critical of advice, as I will be bouncing it off you as
well.. I hate spending the money, but Nancy reminds me that in the old days this is less than I would
have received for a single lecture.
So, once again, I understand your concems.frustrations, knowledge, recriminations, etc, but this is
what I am going to do. So, I am either going to waste $ISK or get some useful payback for it, and I
will either kindly accept your offer to let me waste your $25K, or my $25K. If you feel sufficiently
strongly that you don't want to follow through on what you so generously offered before, which was
to provide $25K for me to work with however I felt I wanted to do, and perhaps largely for our
mental health if necessary, I will not of course hold it against you in any way. You have been so
generous with your time and friendship, which in the end is so much more important.
Lawrence
ABOR stuff below:
J. Dismissal or Suspension
I. Tenured Faculty Members
a. Tenured faculty members shall not be dismissed or suspended without pay except for just
cause. Such dismissal or suspension may take effect only following an opportunity for the
faculty member to utilize the conciliation/mediation and hearing procedures as prescribed in
ABOR Policy 6-201L.3 and L.4 (Conditions of Faculty Service; Hearing Procedures for
Faculty, Conciliation/Mediation and Hearing).
b. Just cause shall include, but not be limited to, demonstrated incompetence or dishonesty in
professional activities related to teaching, research, publication, other creative endeavors, or
service to the university community; unsatisfactory performance over a specified period of time
and a failure to improve that performance to a satisfactory level after being provided a
reasonable opportunity to do so by the university, as demonstrated through the board-approved
post-tenure review process; substantial neglect of or refusal to carry out properly assigned
duties; personal conduct that substantially impairs the individual's fulfillment of properly
assigned duties and responsibilities; moral turpitude; misrepresentation in securing an
appointment, promotion, or tenure at the university; or proven violation of Board or university
rules and regulations (including the code of conduct or any other disciplinary rules), depending
upon the gravity of the offense, its repetition, or its negative consequences upon others.
Lawrence M. Krauss
Director, The Origins Project at ASU
Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative
Foundation Professor
School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department
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On Apr 4, 2018, at 5:17 AM, jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wrote:
i have reviewed arizona state law. not easy. . my best guess is that you will be given the
opportunity to resign rather than be fired. the issue will be pay over what time and how much. .
if you take someone it should be a £email lawyer or maybe nancy . so she is in on this. against
my very strong advice you called the question re outside vs university, and there is now little
wiggle room. I am being very gentle as i know there are other things in your life that is troubling
. If you put up a big fight or make a plea the final result will be the same. it will be a
negotiation , threats will only cost you money
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