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Hello All,
Unfortunately our tracker wasn't able to gain access to this closed event.
Good news: we were able to capture the event via streaming-video and TV
news. Below are the notes for that effort.
Big Highlights
- McCain says ACORN must be investigated before nov. 4th "so we're not
deprived" (of rt to vote)
- McCain says we don't care about a dried-up terrorist and his wife,
but its a question about whether he's telling the truth. (same goes for his
broken promise on taking public funding)
- McCain plays blame game, names Reps. Dodd and Frank as at fault for
housing crisis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5kv1GZFgj8
- McCain says Obama has a " radical far left pro-abortion record" --
Palin follows up that Obama didn't vote for health care for children who
"survived a botched abortion"
Waukesha, WI: McCain/Palin Town Hall 10/09/08
(Disclaimer: The following are notes, not direct quotes. If you'd like a
quotable transcript or video of any part below, please email us.)
Background details
- 35-40 demonstrators outside pre-event (trade/jobs/econ message) --
Crowd of McCain supporters chants "TER-ROR" back at demonstrators
Speech Highlights
*[Palin Highlights]*
-
- McCain asked Obama to appear in town halls Obama said no
- And now I think that we can understand why. The other night Americans
got a real good look at the choice that we are going to face On November
4th. And what we found the other night also was more examples of how our
opponent continually wants to look backwards because that is where you find
blame for some of the challenges that America is facing today. But we join
you in looking forward because that is where we will find the solutions
- McCain only candidate offering us an optimistic vision f how we can
meet these challenges and practical solutions and reduce your taxes and how
we can rein in spending in order to allow private sector to grow and to
prosper to create more job, hire more people that's how we are going to get
the economy back on track .
- Plans to fix the economy, plans to win the wars, plans to protect your
constitution rights, and I know that that is so important here in WI. Hard
fight in WI, we need your help, you need direct answers to your questions
that is why we are here, the next president of the United States John
McCain.
*
*
*[McCain highlights]*
- id like to intro cindy - many in WI wonder why she isnt candidate
- straight talk: we are facing the greatest financial crisis of our
lifetime, its affecting every small business owner, homeowner and their
fams. we need some straight talk and leadership. we have to restore trust
and confidence bcak in govt. we have to get econ turned around and do it
immediately.
- there's a guy right there wearing a shirt that says failure is not an
option - fialure is not an option that we'll have -
- you didnt get a lot of straight answer from obama a couple nights ago -
he didnt tell you he wants to mandate health ins. acc. to his standards that
employees are going to be taxed by him. i asked him 2x whats the size of the
tax youll be laying on sm. businesses who cant afford this
- he wants to raise taxes on 50% of sm. businesses - and he's changed his
position, he's all over the map
- we have to bring spending under control-- straight talk for young ppl -
we've laid $10T debt on you, $5B debt to china - obama has proposed $860B in
new spending - we're not gonna do that when i'm president
- heart of crisis is ability to stay in homes. Fannie and Freddie allowed
this econ to go into the ditch, they encouraged ppl to buy homes they
couldnt afford, this house of cards has collapsed. i proposed that Treas
Secr to buy these mortgages directly from homeowners and mortgage services.
lets buy those mortgages, give them mortgages they can afford and stay in
their homes. we have to stabilize
- obama was happy to bail out Bear Stearns, Fannie/Freddie, AIG but he's
opposed to helping homeowners of america. i want to help homeowners, not
Wall st.
- Dream of owning a home should not be crushed--govt must act and i will
act quickly and decisively.
- in 21 months of campaigning, ive leveled with you about taking on dc--
ive taken them on time after time, obama has not - we have to give middle
income and working fams so they can create jobs, get costs under control,
help students paying for college -
- Obama has never taken on his own party on any issue
- Need to give middle income and working families so they can keep jobs
- Help people pay for college, make healthcare more affordable
- Start a spending freeze to stop the spending spree
- What was my opponent's record before the crisis? Obama most notable
involvement was to be taking money from the executives of Fannie and
Freddie. He did not lift a finger to try to reform Freddie Mae and reform
what was clearly an impending crisis that I and others said two years ago
that we had to stop
- Obama wants a single payer, if you like that go to Canada -- He'll fine
employers - That costs jobs for small business people
- We've lost 700,000 jobs and only small business has created 300,000. He
claims he'll give people tax relief - There are small business in this room
that have created jobs - I will not raise your taxes - He wants to increase
spending by 860 billion - Says there'll be a net decrease in spending - My
reductions will be real- Put gov't back on your side
- earmarks and spending has corrupted, its your money. palin stood up
against bridge to nowhere. obama has proposed nearly $1B in earmark
projects. e.g. $3m for new projector in planetarium in own town. w/ ppl
struggling, is that what we need to spend your money on? i guess it was
sheer coincidence that the exec of that museum pledged to contribute $200k
to obama's campaign. its an appearance problem.
- i have always put country first, i am proud of that service. i believe
i can inspire a generation of americans to serve cause greater than self. i
will reach across the aisle and work w/ anyone. america's greatest days are
ahead of us not behind us. we are the greatest force of good in teh world.
TY and god bless you and thank you for being here.
*Question and Answer*
- 1Q) we have sm business taking care of elderly. we try to pay for
health ins, but its expensive -- we'd like to be able to pull together w/
other small businesses so we can have discounted rates like big cos. is that
possible?
- MCCAIN: how much has your int. rate and copay gone up in last few
years?
- QUESTIONER: it's more than doubled.
- MCCAIN: So if you had same payments to make as you did 5-6 yrs ago,
you wouldnt be facing same sort of crisis?
- QUESTIONER: right, our deductibles are also really higher.
- MCCAIN: that's the problem- inflationary costs. i think you should
be able to pool, i think you should be able to go anywhere in america, it
might be cheaper in AZ. obama calls that deregulatory and wrong-
why is that
wrong - there are commissioners in every states.
- MCCAIN: ill we need community health centers, walk-in clinics,
athletes teaching wellness and fitness b/c obesity is huge
problem for our
youth... but i also want to give you $5k refundable tax credit so you can
get ins. of your choice. i know costs are high, we need to get
costs down.
small example. is this the greatest challenge practically
speaking (yes). we
should put ppl's health records on line. medical errors arent only
expensive, sometimes they cost more than just money. they should
be online -
everyone you need to consult with, they should be able to access it. the
point is give you the money and necessit--what you need. competition and
choice. and not fine ppl, like obama wants. ask him whats the size of the
fine.
- PALIN: you did pretty much cover everything was gonna say. todd and
i understand, owning a snow machine shop for yrs, wondering if
we can cover
our employees. you will not like obama's plan - a govt mandate where you
will be fined if you cant afford to cover employees' health ins.
- PALIN: want to give thumbs-up to this community for being voted 1 of
the top places to live in USA. w/ such an active community-- and
god has so
blessed you w/ beautiful envrio. I went on run this morning your
eat local
campaign -- i hope that includes wild game, too, for those who
are hunters.
- MCCAIN: the greatest expert on health care today is former Gov.
Tommy thompson, formers HHS secr. i rely on him and his advice
and counsel.
1 of the great leaders. also, todd palin, when they were in snow machine
business, every yr he's in this 2000-mi race and he's 4x champ,
1x he broke
his arm with 500 mi to go and finished the race. remarkable
father. he can
tell you a lot about wellness and fitness.
- 2Q) "I'm a realtor; witnessing first hand the effect the mortgage
crisis has had on many people's lives. *Will you assure us that as
president you will take immediate action to investigate and prosecute and
name the names of the people actually responsible?*." [cheers]
- MCCAIN: "I will, and it is already a matter of record that members,
democratic members of congress fought against reform and it's a matter of
record in hearings that they said everything was fine. Senator
Obama a year
ago said these kinds of sub-prime loans are "fine" with him and
the effect
is that the same people that are now claiming credit for this
rescue are the
same ones that were willing co-conspirators in causing this
problem that it
is and you know their names, you will know more of their names.
*Congressman
Barney Frank and Senator Chris Dodd are two of them*." (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5kv1GZFgj8)
- PALIN: mccain has taken on his own party and other party. he stood
up 2 yrs ago and said something has to be done about fannie/freddie.
- MCCAIN: obama may claim he said something about it,there's no
record. there's a letter i and others signed taking issue with this. they
fought actively against reform b/c they were taking money from them.
- 3Q) the last moderator never brought up the issue of abortion. will you
bring it up at next debate? i think you have advantage.
JOHN MCCAIN: "I am proud of my pro-life record. For many years i believe
that life begins at conception.* i don't know if you heard Senator Obama,
when Rick Warren asked him, and he said--quote--it's above my pay grade.
It's above Senator Obama's pay grade, the issue of the rights of the
unborn. *Remarkable. So i believe the most noble words ever written is all
of us are created equal, and endowed by our creator with certain inalienable
rights. Among these are life, and that means the unborn child as well as the
born child.* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt8VzyqYXLw*
*
*
*"Senator Obama has a radical far left pro-abortion record*, and you should
examine it and his votes, but I also want to say very quickly, if i could,
we need to change the culture in America. We understand that."
MCCAIN: "We need to change the culture and we have -- we have to show
compassion and courage to any young woman who is undergoing this very
difficult situation. We have to have the compassion to understand the
difficulties of this situation they find themselves in, and we have to have
the courage to improve adoption practices in America so that adoption will
be made far more common in America."
MCCAIN: "Cindy and I are adoptive parents. The greatest joy of our life is
our daughter, Bridget that was presented to Cindy by the nuns in Mother
Teresa's orphanage [...]. Bridget has been the great joy of our life and I'm
proud that we are adoptive parents, and we want that to be an example to all
Americans so that adoption will be something that this much more widely
practiced in America."
SARAH PALIN: "John, may I add, also, too, as somebody that believes the most
promising and precious ingredient of the sometimes mixed up world of ours is
a child and I appreciate your reminder of the compassion needed in this
issue. *What I don't find compassionate is Barack Obma's vote as an Illinois
senator when three times he had the chance to vote to be able to provide
healthcare for a child who was born alive as a result of a botched abortion.
I would just ask you, sir, to go online and look at his record on that one,
also*. Thank you for the question."
- 4Q) i heard 75% of AK oil was being sent to AK. true? why?
- PALIN: i wish we could drill more. no its not 75% being shipped --
in fact, cong has pretty strict on export bans on oil and gas -
we need to
drill more, onshore and offshore, we need alt. energy supplies
and we need
to start conserving. mccain can talk more about all of the above
approach.
but no, it's not a huge portion of any domestic supply being exported.
- MCCAIN: btw, obama has consistently opposed nuclear and offshore
drilling. look at his record and not at his rhetoric.
- 5Q) what will you do about hate crimes legislation, where they're
trying to silence our frdm of speech?
- MCCAIN: any crime rendered should have swift and sure judgment. I
don't think i can divine the intentions of perpetrators, i can only
determine along w/ our justice system, the nature of the crime and the
appropriate punishment. i think criminals ought to be prosecuted
to fullest
extent of law.
- PALIN: 1st thing that comes to my mind when we talk about rts and
frdm is we're talking about mccain who's spent his life fighting to make
sure we have them. and again, kudos to you. your great WI Guard,
1/3 of your
troops will be over in a war zone in '09. over there again to
defend frdm,
liberty and democratic values, again(st) something that mccain has fought
all his life to protect rest of the nation.
- MCCAIN: btw, i hope during this natl debate, americans will examine
obama's on crime. very very weak when you look at votes he cast
in US and IL
senate. [someone yells, "What about ACORN?"]
- 6Q) i'm mad, really mad. it's not the economy. it's the socialists
taking over our country. [cheers] sit down, i'm not done. let me finish
please (McCAin: Yes. Excuuuse me.) when you have an Obama, Pelosi and rest
of hooligans over there going to run this country, we should have our heads
examined. its time for you 2 who are representing us to get there. [USA!
USA!]
- MCCAIN: i think i got the msg. he's right. the Dems have been in
majority for 2 yrs. have you seen any improvement? [NO!]
americans are angry
and frustrated. we have to act, act together b/c we are
americans first. i
will work w/ anyone, anyone who will help fix these terrible challenges.
we've got to work together as 1 nation indivisible. i promise
ill do that.
and that's my record.
- MCCAIN: could i mention - there's someone here who keeps
yelling* ACORN.
"there are serious allegations of voter fraud in the battleground states
across america. they must be investigated and no one should
corrupt the most
precious right we have. and that is the right to vote!"*[cheers]
you've seen the allegations, the multiple registrs w/ same name, the more
registrations than population. these are serious allegations and
they need
to be investigated before nov. 4th, so we're not deprived.
- 7Q) we are all a product of our assoc. is there not a way to get
around this media and line up the ppl he has hung with?
- MCCAIN: with your help and the ppl in this rm, we will find out,
just as sen. clinton said in primary that we should find out about this
assoc. *we dont care about an old dried up terrorist and his wife that
on 9/11 said he hadnt done enough, but *obama is saying he's just a
guy in the neighborhood. *its a question about whether he's telling
the truth.*
- MCCAIN: he's the 1st candidate since nixon to take unlimited money,
some of which is being questioned now. he said he'd sit down with me to
discuss public financing. he never did. He signed when he was a
darkhorse
candidate he promised to sign a pledge to take only public financing. He
said I'll negotiate. It's not a matter of him taking the finances or not.
It's about trust and being able to take his word.
- PALIN: There's also a suggestion that is America able to ask all the
questions and get a straight answer. Crowd: NOOO! Wwhy can obama
give speech
after speech about war and never utter "victory" and why would
he vote not
to fund our troops - biden called him on it. Leading us to be
frustrated. I
can't pick a fight with those have a barrel of ink. It's because
I am like
you and I wonder too when will the questions get asked and when
will we get
the answers. its dangerous territory when i suggest MSM isnt
asking all the
questions, you have to help us do that. i know that when my impatience in
interviews shows, some of you might think, well im just trying to provide
job security for tina fey. no its b/c i like you am wondering
when will all
the quesitons be asked adn when will we get the answers.
- MCCAIN: do you know how many times the pol pundits have written off
my campaign? and they're wrong now. you can count on it b/c
we'll go to the
american ppl and take our msg to you.
- 8Q) what are you gonna do to lower gas costs so we can put it back into
economy where it belongs>
- PALIN: here comes all of the above approach. we have to be able to
drill here and drill now. we have to be able to get more supply into this
very hungry mkt. we have to plug these in. biden told a voter there's no
such thing as clean coal- wrong. there is, we need to get tech
up to speed.
he said offshore drilling is raping offshores.- no, there are
enviro-friendly ways. and alt. energies. the winds, the hydrocarbon, the
solar, etc. and conserve. i may come across as a lil green when
i say that,
but no.
- MCCAIN: theres a whole lot to say, let me add 1 point, an excl
point. i believe climate change is real, we need to stop
greenhouse gases.
we need nuclear. i hope he takes one of his infrequent trips to
france and
sees what they're doing with nucl.
- 9Q) at RNC, you asked us to fight for you. i have. in the next debate,
you need to take it to obama: ACORN, rev. wright, shady characters
surrounding him, we have corruption here and across this nation. take it to
him, im begging you. [crowd cheers]
- MCCAIN: TY! thank you for your courage. your reward will be in
heaven. yes ill do that but i want to address greatest financial
challenge
with a pos. plan, we need to restore hope and trust in america.
so we'll do
both.
- 10Q) im president of foundation to support children with down syndrome.
i personally cried when i saw your son on natl TV at convention. this boy
has Down Syndrome, and his mother. we're asked what did you mean when you
said we'll finally have advocate in WH?
- PALIN: 1st, i understand every child should be cherished. we can do
things practically. as gov, i fought for adn got incr. in funding for
special needs kids in public schools. and its not about expanding budget,
but about prioritizing. these children arent problem, but they are a
priority.
- QUESTIONER: 90% of women who find out they're carrying child w/ DS
abort. i look fwd to seeing you in WH.
- PALIN: lets take opportunity to provide kids w/ hope. and there's
also autism and other issues thatve been neglected in health
care system. we
need to strengthen NIH. thats not about growing govt, its about
reprioritizing. we'll make sure efficiently-run programs are
there for you.
- 11Q) how serious a threat do you consider chavez?
- MCCAIN: i think that chavez is a compelling living argument for
energy indep in america, that we are not dependent on any of venezuela's
oil. im hesitant to talk much about him b/c it gives him
legitimacy. but i
know the rhetoric.
-
- MCCAIN: Need to bolster our friends, Columbia. We need a free trade
agreement between ourselves and Columbia.
- PALIN: Concern is that Obama will sit down unconditionally with
Chavez, Ahmadinejad, Kim Jon Il. Iran who seeks to destroy Israel, our
greatest ally. Goes to his lack of judgment.
- 12Q) I'm an Iraq war vet. Obama made disparaging comments over what
we're doing in Afghanistan. My son is an Iraqi baby orphan. When I talk to
soldiers, what we want more than anything is to win the war against
terrorism. What is your plan with how we're going to win in Afg. In Iraq,
terrorism.
-
- MCCAIN: Give us a few words how this beautiful young man came to
this country.
- QUESTIONER: Mother Theresa's orphanage. With help of Secretary
Rumsfield. An Iraqi translator risked his life. Became a
citizen on March
5th of this year.
- MCCAIN: All of us are deeply moved and grateful. Whenever we get
depressed about our challenges, you hear a story like this, and you
remember, it's only in America. (He gets choked up). Every soldier I meet
says let us win. You never hear the word victory from Obama. I will bring
our troops home with honor, we will win in Afgh, Iraq, and they
won't have
to go back. This strategy has worked. I've talked about it many times,
except this is really what it is all about. This is what we've sacrificed
for, the struggle of the 21st century, I will not be president
of the first
war we've lost of the 21st century. I won't let that happen.
Thank you for
your participation, everybody here had something else to do besides being
here. I want to promise you we don't take this lightly. We
understand your
trust and confidence in us. We have always put our country
first, ahead of
self, party, everything. We won't let you down, we'll put our
country first.
- PALIN: I had no idea what to expect here. This has been amazing.
Sir, we honor you, you said it best. Those on the fence, perhaps
you've been
tempted by something you've heard Obama had to say, perhaps that our
soldiers have been air-rading villages and killing civilians. No
that's not
what our troops are doing. They're giving hope to children on
the other side
of the world, that's what our troops are doing. JM has advocated a strong
solution for our economy, but I can't urge the importance enough
of national
security. This man is the man that I want as Commander in Chief.
Thank you
Wisconsin.
--
Sara DuBois
Tracking / Communications Manager
ProgressiveAccountability.org
[email protected]
202-609-7681 (office)
410-967-7306 (cell)
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