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From: Boris Nikolic
To: "Jeffrey Epstein ([email protected])" <[email protected]>
Subject: Derman's new book is coming out in a few days: "Models. Behaving. Badly."
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 04:04:06 +0000
This might interest you!
It is from a friend that reads a lot and send regular updates.
Derman's new book is coming out in a few days Models. Behaving. Badly.
Behaving-Badly-Confusing-Illusion-Reality-Disaster/dp/1439164983 I enjoyed reading his book My Life as A
Quant: Reflections on Physics and Finance
When you read his work, even though he admits some of the big failings of these models, it comes through that
he still believes that somehow complex adaptive systems can be modeled, which is, well, not something we
should trust people about ever again when the downside is as big as it was in finance.
Derman reminds me of someone who proclaims he is an atheist, but talks about religion just the same since he
was trained as a minister.
An interview with Dermon is here: One
quote here:
"In finance you can't predict the future even to one decimal place.....lif you could] there would be no
need for markets."
Here is the Amazon blub for the new book:
Derman looks at why people-- bankers in particular --still put so much faith in these models, and why it's a
terrible mistake to do so.
Though financial models imitate the style of physics and employ the language of mathematics, ultimately they
deal with human beings. There is a fundamental difference between the aims and potential achievements of
physics and those of finance. In physics, theories aim for a description of reality; in finance, at best, models can
shoot only for a simplistic and very limited approximation to it. When we make a model involving human
beings, we are trying to force the ugly stepsister's foot into Cinderella's pretty glass slipper. It doesn't fit without
cutting off some of the essential parts. Physicists and economists have been too enthusiastic to acknowledge the
limits of their equations in the sphere of human behavior--which of course is what economics is all about.
Models.Behaving.Badly includes a personal account of Derman's childhood encounters with failed models--the
oppressions of apartheid and the utopia of the kibbutz. He describes his experience as a physicist on Wall Street,
the models quants generated, the benefits they brought and the problems, practical and ethical, they
caused. Derman takes a close look at what a model is, and then highlights the differences between the successes
of modeling in physics and its failures in economics. Describing the collapse of the subprime mortgage CDO
market in 2007, Derman urges us to stop the naive reliance on these models, and offers suggestions for mending
them. This is a fascinating, lyrical, and very human look behind the curtain at the intersection between
mathematics and human nature.
Dermas and Taleb actually wrote a a er together. in which they attack Merton.
Felix Salmon wrotes about the battle here:
Here's a recent interview with Derrnan:
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Risk: You have said you are no longer a believer in quantitative finance — what does that mean?
ED: I meant I used to believe in it as a theory, like physics. Physics and quantitative finance have a lot in
common — both use Monte Carlo simulation, partial differential equations, stochastic calculus and so on. But
physics is a theory used for predictions, and in finance that's not what we're doing. Quantitative finance isn't
really a theory — it's a collection of models. A theory tells you what something in the world is — a model tells
you what it's like. It's a kind of metaphor, or analogy.
For example, quantum physics is a full theory. It says how things actually are, and makes quantifiable — and
unbelievably accurate — predictions. Physics has models — the liquid drop model of the nucleus basically says
sometimes we can say that a nucleus behaves like a small drop of liquid, for instance. Within quantum physics
there are two complementary models for interpreting the objects — as a wave or a particle — but that is our
interpretation. The theory itself is categorical about what things are, and its predictions are unambiguous.
Something like that, or the principle of least action, or Newton's laws — they're not based on any analogy, they
just say how the world is.
But everything in mathematical finance is based on some kind of analogy with some physical or biological
process. You're trying to price things by saying they are like something you understand better in physics, such
as diffusion processes. People get deluded and think that because it uses the same mathematics, you should put
the same amount of belief in it. Also, unlike a theory, quantitative finance isn't about prediction — it's about
interpolation. Even the most sophisticated stochastic model is ultimately just a way of taking prices for liquid
instruments and constructing prices for illiquid ones. It achieves this by making an analogy — for instance, that a
stock price is sort of like a random walk.
Until it describes the reality of what a market actually is, quantitative finance won't be a theory. That's why
those market microstructure models are so interesting — they move closer to being a genuine theory. But it's hard
to do because you are trying to capture the behaviour of people — and people are very complicated.
Risk: Are you disillusioned with the subject?
ED: No, not at all, I like the field. But I am a bit disillusioned at the extent to which it has become a branch of
pure mathematics. I was at an academic seminar, and somebody mentioned the fundamental theorem of finance,
and I had no idea what it was. I looked it up and it was a completely incomprehensible statement about "locally
convex topological vector spaces".
Risk: It has some very specific technical conditions on the space of portfolios that actually are only non-trivial if
there are infinitely many assets.
ED: Well, quite. Of course there's really only a finite number of assets. What the theorem is saying is that
having no arbitrage in a market is the same as prices being consistent, but it's phrased in this bafflingly complex
mathematical language and style, with this unnecessary extreme generality. It's evidence that quantitative
finance has been abstracted and axiomatised far away from the reality of the object of study.
I would see it all the time when interviewing prospective new quants at Goldman.. ask why I should believe
their model can price an option, and point to Girsanov's theorem, which tells you how the dynamics of
stochastic processes change when you move from real-world probabilities to risk-neutral ones. But what I
wanted them to say was something practical — because I can replicate it using assets whose prices I know —
something like that. My biggest piece of advice is: don't get deluded by maths. If you have written down an
elegant equation, well, that's nice, but it's only as good as the analogy underpinning it is applicable.
Risk: What, specifically, has quantitative finance learned during the crisis?
ED: The most common models — the capital asset pricing model (CAPM), geometric Brownian motion and so
on — make all sorts of assumptions, from market efficiency to normality of returns and so on. Some of them are
just not true, and this makes the analogy doubtful.
The biggest specific lesson from the experience is that the assumption of normality in returns is not just flat
wrong, but dangerous. At least you can say that assumptions of perfect liquidity and market efficiency are
approximations — but using a normal distribution actually leaves you exposed to the risks you most need to
capture. People have known since Mandelbrot in 1963 that returns are not normally distributed, but because of
its ease of use and simplicity it became very popular. But you see evidence refuting it every day •
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http://www.risk.net/risk-magazine/interview/2108323/-emanuel-derman-model-risks-quantitative-finance-
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Models can ony inform. They can't predict with certainty.
More from Derman in a Reuters op-ed:
A PRINCIPLE: IF YOU USE A MODEL, YOU ARE SHORT VOLATILITY
All models are analogies, and being analogies, they are limited in their scope. In physics you can
describe ice, water and steam, and the phase transitions between them, with one unified theory,
amazingly, and hence you can handle the extremes of freezing and boiling.
In finance or economics we have nothing like that. Even beautiful Black-Scholes-Merton ignores
volatility variations, illiquidity, panic, government regulations on shorting, to name just a few things that
lie outside it.
Therefore, when the world changes dramatically, every single model you can think of is likely to fail. I
would like the following principle to be engraved on the foreheads of all financial and economic model
users: All models are short volatility. When volatility changes a lot, the model is going to fail.
what we really need is a few strong defensible principles that, if rigorously applied, will produce
incentives that mean less regulation is needed. Unfortunately, these principles have been violated very
badly during and after the great financial crisis. Let me list a few that I think are good.. sure there are
more, but still less than the number of regulations.
• If you want the benefits of risk taking, you must suffer the disadvantages too.
• Don't treat (only some people's) insolvency as illiquidity.
• Efficiency isn't everything. Efficiency alone isn't a good reason for anything.
• You can't solve political or spiritual problems by tackling the money supply. You can only postpone them.
• If you stimulate at some times, then you must dampen at others.
• "If you believe that capitalism is a system in which money matters more than freedom, you are doomed when people
who don't believe in freedom attack using money." (Edward Lucas)
• Above all, do no harm.
regulation
If all you have is a model that says markets are always right you fail because there are public goods and
externalities. If all you have is a model that says markets always fail, then you have
an predictable/certain disaster too. Derman's claim that principles can be a substitute for regulation flies in the
face of reality (see, for example, the Marshmallow problem
wealthy-life.html and overconfidence bias* etc.). Imagine the carnage for the great masses if Wall Street had
succeeded in privatizing social security. It boggles the mind to do so. How does one "rigorously apply"
principles without regulation? Society is going to trust Wall Street to be "principled"? Do we need kills loads of
regulations that prevent people from doing business or things like the laws that require more ground floor retail
stores in the face of a glut? Absolutely. Can we continue to let bankers profit on the upside and society absorb
the downside? That would be insanity as Einstein defined it.
Here's a fellow from Morgan Stanley who argues something similar to the point in red below:
Fiscal dominance - what does it mean? In the simplest characterisation of fiscal dominance, the fiscal position
of the economy effectively `sets' a target that monetary policy has to follow. Monetary policy plays a
subordinate role, keeps interest rates low and allows inflation to erode the real value of government debt. By
contrast, monetary dominance implies that fiscal policy plays a passive role while monetary policy goes about
keeping inflation under control without a concern about the adverse effect of higher interest rates on the ability
of governments to sustain the debt burden. Such a regime clearly existed before the onset of the Great Recession
in the advanced economies (excluding Japan) and continues to exist in the emerging market economies even
now. Since the Great Recession, however, things have changed.
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Morgan Stanley is more right than wrong, but more importantly understates the complexity of the problem
set. Regarding Dermon's point about postponement You can't solve political or spiritual problems by tackling
the money supply. You can only postpone them) and what is going on in the EU right now here's my tweet
version:
reality = Greek default, but lenders are Europeans= requires apportioning pain= why no agreement = why so
many summits
Dermon is correct that sometimes a simple model is very powerful. For example, here in a few words is how to
invest:
"view a share of stock as a part "ownership of the business and judge the staying quality of the business in terms
of its competitive advantage. Look for more value in terms of discounted future cash-flow than you're paying
for. Move only when you have an advantage. You have to understand the odds and have the discipline to bet
only when the odds are in your favor."
Or more simply:
"buy businesses with sustainable competitive advantages at a low, or even fair, price."
Is that a model or a set of principles? Both really.
*The Hazards of Confidence
The Marvels and Flaws of intuitive thinking
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