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Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1218-27 Filed 07/15/21 Page 1 of 6 McCAWLEY DECLARATION EXHIBIT 4 (Filed Under Seal)  Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1218-27 Filed 07/15/21 Page 2 of 6 1 1 IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE 17TH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT IN AND FOR BROWARD COUNTY, FLORIDA 2 CASE NO. 15-000072 3 BRADLEY J. EDWARDS and PAUL G. 4 CASSELL, 5 Plaintiffs, 6 -vs- CONFIDENTIAL 7 ALAN M. DERSHOWITZ, 8 Defendant. ____________________________________/ 9 10 VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF VIRGINIA ROBERTS GIUFFRE 11 12 Saturday, January 16, 2016 9:07 a.m. - 2:48 p.m. 13 14 401 East Las Olas Blvd., Suite 1200 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301 15 16 17 18 Reported By: 19 Deborah A. Harris, Court Reporter Notary Public, State of Florida 20 Phone - 305.651.0706 21 Job No. JO277789 22 23 24 25 CONFIDENTIAL  Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1218-27 Filed 07/15/21 Page 3 of 6 88 1 mean, that could have not been exactly what was said, but 2 those are generalities of what was said. 3 Q. Who else was in the house at this time? 4 A. Epstein for a fact. I'm not too sure about 5 Ghislaine and , they could have been. Definitely 6 house staff. 7 Q. Who? 8 A. and 9 , I'm not too sure. 10 Q. How often were you sexual trafficked in 11 Jeffrey Epstein's private bedroom? 12 MS. MCCAWLEY: Objection. Which bedroom 13 are you talking about? 14 BY MS. BORJA: 15 Q. The same bedroom in New York that you were 16 talking about? 17 A. That's actually the only time besides with 18 Jeffrey. I mean, Jeffrey countless, but there was no 19 other men brought to Jeffrey's room. 20 Q. Who brought Professor Dershowitz to this 21 room? 22 A. I have no idea, I'm assuming Epstein. 23 Q. Help me figure this out. Epstein had just 24 left the room? 25 A. Epstein exits the room, Dershowitz walks CONFIDENTIAL  Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1218-27 Filed 07/15/21 Page 4 of 6 89 1 in. 2 Q. Same door? 3 A. Same door. 4 Q. How long before Jeffrey exiting and 5 Professor Dershowitz walking in? 6 A. Minutes, not even, approximately 7 60 seconds. 8 Q. Ten minutes later once the sex encounter 9 ends, what happens next? 10 A. He pulled up his pants and I put my towel 11 back on. I went upstairs to my room -- my room was 12 downstairs, had another shower, I got dressed. I don't 13 remember the rest of the day from there. 14 Q. Did you see Professor Dershowitz in the 15 house again that day? 16 A. On that day? 17 Q. Right. 18 A. Possibly, I mean, I don't remember. I just 19 remember that event very clearly. 20 Q. So it was unusual that somebody other than 21 Jeffrey to whom you would be sexual trafficked would walk 22 into Jeffrey's bedroom, is that fair? 23 A. Yes. 24 Q. Did you ask anybody how that came to be? 25 A. No, it was expected of me. CONFIDENTIAL  Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1218-27 Filed 07/15/21 Page 5 of 6 90 1 Q. Did you talk to Jeffrey about it? 2 A. Yes. 3 Q. What did you tell Jeffrey? 4 A. Jeffrey asked me if he enjoyed it, I said 5 yes. 6 Q. So the act was consummated? 7 MS. MCCAWLEY: Objection. 8 A. What does consummated mean? 9 MS. MCCAWLEY: If you don't know you don't 10 answer. 11 SPECIAL MASTER: Rephrase that. 12 BY MS. BORJA: 13 Q. What do you mean by your testimony that 14 Professor Dershowitz enjoyed it? 15 MS. MCCAWLEY: Objection. Mischaracterizes 16 the testimony. 17 SPECIAL MASTER: You can answer if you can. 18 A. I don't even understand. What do you mean, 19 did he enjoy it? 20 MS. MCCAWLEY: Take a deep breath. She can 21 re-ask the question. 22 A. He enjoyed it, yes. From what it looked 23 like, my God, yes, he enjoyed it. 24 Q. Why do you say that? 25 MS. MCCAWLEY: Take a deep breath. CONFIDENTIAL  Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1218-27 Filed 07/15/21 Page 6 of 6 91 1 A. He ejaculated. He was happy. 2 Q. Tell me about the next incident that you 3 can recall of the sex? 4 MS. MCCAWLEY: Do you want to take a break? 5 THE WITNESS: Yes, absolutely. 6 SPECIAL MASTER: Let's take a break, five 7 minutes. 8 THE VIDEOGRAPHER: Going off video record, 9 11:11 a.m. 10 (A recess was taken.) 11 THE VIDEOGRAPHER: We are now back on video 12 record 11:31 a.m., disk number 2. 13 BY MS. BORJA: 14 Q. Is there anything else that you can recall 15 that would help you to place the time frame of this 16 sexual encounter of Professor Dershowitz in New York? 17 A. No, not that I can remember. 18 Q. Do you recall whether it was before or 19 after the first time you met ? 20 A. Before. 21 Q. About how long before do you think? 22 A. I don't know. It was fairly early on in my 23 relationship with Jeffrey that I first met him, but it 24 was after my training so I'm not too sure. 25 Q. And your training was about nine months, is CONFIDENTIAL