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CW
Interview w/ 09/09/2020
ADA Leah Saxtein
TPA (notes)
CW is and she lives CW has a year old son. She came• before her he
was born.
▪ CW came from M.
▪ Her son's father decided not to be involved. Was very traumatic
- CW started work as a model. She had been a model before
CW met this guy named Leon Black (A) from Apollo Global Management. He's a big financier.
He told CW he was going to help her with work.
Met for lunch once and then little by little sexual abuse started.
He was asked as a mentor, but he would try to touch CW. CW would make it clear that she
doesn't want it.
He said he wanted to help CW's son but made it clear he expected CW to engage in
sexual activity
▪ CW always thought she was making herself clear
▪ He would pretend he didn't understand what CW was saying. Correct her grammar.
- Abuse continued
▪ Went through many rounds of career promises but never went anywhere.
A once flew CW to Florida. Went to airport, they didn't ask for documents or anything. Said they
were going to meet his friend Epstein. This happened in 2008.
- A told CW not to tell anyone and if she told anyone then they would find drugs on her
and it would be a big thing.
CW was shocked they never asked for her documents.
Flight originated in NY. CW thinks it was Teterboro. CW would recognize the airport
if she saw it again
They were acting like they were expecting CW to engage in sex.
In Florida: CW went to the living room area. A bunch of men there. A woman named said
to CW: "they are addicted to sex. You have to do what they want you to do. They will be very
upset"
Men were in the office during that conversation.
Later the men came back and were saying that they needed to have sex and that they were
addicted. CW was scared.
- CW said that feeding addiction only makes it worse/faster. CW noticed she was
screaming.
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- Epstein said "what do you want? Love?"
On the plane back, A was trying to force feed CW.
They were at the house maybe a couple of hours.
When they were back in NYC, CW continued to go to lunches with A at his place
In the library at his place, he was trying to make sexual advances. CW always made it clear she
didn't want to.
A would say that she was just jealous or sick.
He would hold CW's legs and "get down on her." He would start biting CW. CW would say
stop, no. He would bite CW harder. The more CW protested, the harder he bit. At a certain point,
CW just stopped and let him.
- A got on top of her. Started vaginal intercourse. A would get sweaty.
This went on for a few years. A would hurt CW maybe half of the time. Maybe once every few
months/maybe once a month.
First year, CW recalls A was nicer. There were presents. He sent CW to a job interview.
Once A kind of threatened CW. If CW would say no to CW, A would get really angry (almost
physical), so CW got the sense that if she didn't do what he wanted he would do something
really bad.
CW continued to go back because she felt it was a mistake and he would never do it again. She
wanted to be a strong mother. She believed him that he would help her with work.
- She thought she misunderstood and that it was her fault. She thought she didn't
explain to him.
Whenever they talked, they talked just about work.
Communicated by text. A demanded that she be loving and caring over text message.
CW has her old phone from 2014 that she had during her last encounter with A. Didn't
communicate over email
After each meeting, CW felt she needed to recover. She told him she needed to recover. A rented
a house in the for CW maybe in the summer of 2010/11. CW says she could look for
the emails to confirm the year
A came to unexpectedly and CW would start crying
CW's old friends came who knew Epstein:
and CW used to be very good friends, but they had a falling out. did
Victoria Secret fashion show. knew/was involved Epstein
(sp?)
Wanted CW to participate in a threesome.
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A took CW to Weinstein CW was crying at the end of it.
A was very controlling of CW. He knew people at the top of every field.
- He would tell CW that he couldn't help CW because she was rude and crazy.
CW enrolled i . CW She buried herself in
studies. She was hoping that she would not be attractive to A.
- A told CW he need her to sign a loan for his documents and that he would never ask
for the money back.
This girl started chasing CW at school. She was at her gym, at her school.
A said he helps that woman with work and that he would help CW too, but CW's not very nice.
CW tried to focus on school. CW finished her bachelor's degree ilaears. Straight A student.
Somewhere around this time, things got very bad. Some kind of people started coming up to
CW. She wasn't sure what was going. CW now thinks it was some kind of undercover agent.
A lot of people from Epstein's circle started harassing CW.
o Harry Dubin, Mort Zuckerman, Weinstein (came to CW's apartment and tried
to have sex with her). Weinstein said he was sent by A. Introduced to Ghislane
Maxwell. Maxwell tried to get her to have sex with Prince Andrew
(introduced at a restaurant).
Loan money was $250,000. It was supposed to be paid over 2 years.
- CW understood it was the end of the relationship and that A felt bad.
- Money came from A. CW says she has lots of records of money coming from A.
CW says she judges her own self and would like to know if we don't think there would be a case.
People were constantly harassing her. CW lived a People would constantly be
stopping her on the street, at the hairdresser. would track her down.
A would call CW and tell her the details of things he wasn't there for. He would tell CW what
she was wearing, what she said.
A would constantly be talking about Weinstein and Epstein. A said he paid Epstein to take care of
CW and he was doing a good job.
CW felt like people who approached her— important, well-known people — CW just thought
"oh my god, how corrupt."
- A lot of people would imply things to CW like "we know who you are." CW was just
confused.
- There was a woman at who came up to CW. She was stalking CW.
When CW went to admissions office for middle schools for her son, they would harass her. Her
dentist would also harass her "why don't you go out with me? I am a married man." Of course, A
was also a married man.
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Out of incidents:
- In the , A came to CW to uninvited.
- In the beginning of the relationship, A took CW to Bedford home in Westchester. He
forced CW to have sex with him and said that he would make it so that she didn't
have any friends.
A rented her apartment so that CW's CW told A he could rent the place but
he could not go there.
In 2014, CW A said he was setting up appointments at Goldman Sachs. A said
"I feel so sick, I can't have sex."
Then CW started feeling sick as well.
CW feels slightly hallucinating. She couldn't get up from bed. This was in 2014
around July 4 2014.
A came to pick up CW, but CW said she couldn't go out. She decided to go
downstairs to tell him she couldn't go (because A is not allowed in her apartment).
When she opens the door to the apartment, A was right there, he pushed his way in.
He wasn't supposed to be there
They sit on the couch, CW says she thinks she's been poisoned. A says "oh no." He
touches CW's breast. He grabs and drags her to bedroom. A has sex with her. He says
"Now I fucked you" and then he left.
CW couldn't move.
This was a few days after the lunch. CW felt so sick, she couldn't go to the doctor.
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- CW was scared because of the threats she was receiving.
CW decided to leave the country in August 2014.
CW was scared because of the threats: People were approaching CW. Making general
comments.
o Alex Von Furstenbreg said "we had a Russian neighbor in LA. You should
move there. But she got killed."
o "You look like a girl we know who got killed"
A said it would not stop if CW left. He said she had connections everywhere.
He was right. It followed her everywhere. It followed her to
- Len Blavatinik met with CW in London and threatened her.
CW didn't know what to think. She thought it was linked to Leon because he would try to make
CW think it was because of him.
A would talk about Epstein and Weinstein being his best friends all of the time — out of the blue.
- He told CW that he and Epstein created an imaginary life for CW.
Because things continued overseas, CW met with Leon overseas. CW said "what's going on? I
don't know what to do." A said he paid for it all and organized it so CW knew that he was
responsible.
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A said if she wanted it to stop CW would have to organize it with him.
A was talking a lot of legalese, which was weird. No lawyers present. He said he
connections in the FBI.
He forced CW to signed an NDA. CW doesn't have it with her.
CW signed it because she just wanted it to stop. The agreement was that she sign and
then the loans would be forgiven.
o There was second loan in the 2014 (before she went to for 250k
(same amount)
NDA said that CW was not going to sue him and not going to talk about Leon with
anyone.
Then Weinstein, Epstein thing blew up. CW realized that all these people who attacked CW are
just their small circle and that they are not the whole world.
When CW signed the NDA, Leon transferred Epstein 10 million dollars from his own account to
Epstein's non-profit.
- A paid Epstein to organize all of this and to take care of CW.
Virgin Islands subpoena to A about these payments. CW thinks that the payments are because of
her — to shut her up.
After CW signed the NDA in 2015, that's it. He stopped reaching out.
- A few years ago, CW sent him messages saying that he raped her and abused her and
asking for the documents but he never responded.
In 2015, CW bumped into him at a basketball game at but she didn't talk to him.
The time frame is 2008 to 2015.
Last time CW was raped was 7/4/2014 (around this date).
Sexual activity happened in Manhattan, the Hamptons, and Bedford. Nothing in Florida. CW
only went that one time on the plane.
CW doesn't recall traveling with A anywhere else.
Names of people of who approached her. CW says there were a number of people
ADA Saxtein explains distinction between federal jurisdiction and state jurisdiction.
CW says she was raped, but that more than that it was also a serious organized crime.
CW is also concerned about her safety.
After 2015, A told CW she should go back and then come back.
CW instead stayed and then a month later had a second meeting with A. A wanted CW to tell him
how she was harassed.
- A was just postponing and getting on CW's nerves. Psychological maneuvers.
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- He was asking CW to call all the time. It seemed like he was trying to get CW to have
messages reaching out to CW.
CW went back to Euro e. A came to Europe, met with CW in London. A said he wanted to help
son. . A said he wanted her son to be healthy.
- CW said "I don't understand what you are talking about."
A few months later they met in NY and A gave CW the paper (the NDA). CW was trying to read
it but he couldn't because he hands were shaking. CW signed the document and that was it.
They texted a couple time after that. A got CW tickets for the opera after. He used to do that after
he abused her.
- He would buy her tickets and then say "I heard you were very happy."
CW later got a call from a guy who took her He was waiting for
CW in lobby in France.
-A lot of people would try to get CW drunk, have sex with her.
- Jacques Bonim — director of admissions at La Rose.
Horrible surgeries at the dentist — lots of pain. CW went to the dentist to ask what happened and
they said if she came back there they would take out her healthy teeth as well. That dental work
was in 2017
- Michael Appa is the dentist
Every time CW went on vacation, people would appraoch her.
Alex Von Furstenberg: Told CW if she went on vacation alone, something terrible would
happen.
Mort Zuckerman: Took CW out. Wanted to have sex with CW. Gave her a. Had
photographers take photos o'
- Told CW "don't you dare to go public about him" (about A).
CW went out with again: A lot of people are bringing up things form CW's past.
CW has the old phone with her messages with A. CW has emails with his secretary (business).
CW has bank statements from 2012 onward. She doesn't have the beginning (2010/11).
CW received about $1 million from A. NDA says that if CW talks about, she had to pay him $1
million.
All these threats were about CW coming forward to say something
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