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By Karen Tumulty September 14 at 12:56 PM Follow @ktumulty
Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton speaks at the
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee last week. (Morry Gash/AP)
COLUMBUS, Ohio — Hillary Rodham Clinton is suffering rapid erosion of
support among Democratic women — the voters long presumed to be her bedrock
in her bid to become the nation’s first female president.
The numbers in a new Washington Post-ABC News poll are an alarm siren:
Where 71 percent of Democratic-leaning female voters said in July that they
expected to vote for Clinton, only 42 percent do now, a drop of 29
percentage points in eight weeks.
The period since the last surveycoincides with the news that the Federal
Bureau of Investigation is looking into the security of e-mails sent over a
private e-mail system that Clinton used when she was secretary of state, as
well as an intense media focus on her response to the controversy. It has
raised questions about her judgment and revived memories of the scandals
that plagued the Bill Clinton presidency in the 1990s.
The steep decline among women, sharpest among whites, is the main force
driving the poll’s overall numbers, which show support for Clinton falling
from 63 percent in July to 42 now for the Democratic nomination. Her
numbers with women have declined to the point where they are roughly even
with her share among men.
As a result, Clinton’s once-commanding national lead over Bernie Sanders,
the Vermont senator who is running to her left, and Vice President Joe
Biden, who is considering joining the 2016 race, has been cut by
two-thirds. Both men are now polling in the low 20s against her.
The poll suggests that the historic significance of Clinton’s campaign,
which holds the prospect of electing the nation’s first woman president, is
being overtaken by other forces.
In the poll, Clinton got significantly higher support from non-white
Democratic-leaning women, 60 percent of whom were behind her as their
party’s nominee. By comparison, only 37 percent of white Democratic women
said they would vote for her.
There was no statistically significant difference between the support she
drew among women over 50 and her standing with younger women.
The doubts that many female voters now have about Clinton — and the deep
reserves of loyalty that she maintains among others — also came out in
conversations over the past week with more than two dozen women in Ohio and
New Hampshire.
They are states where Clinton enjoyed two of her biggest wins the last time
she ran for the Democratic nomination, in 2008. In both states, the
double-digit advantage she enjoyed among women carried her to victory.
Maya Chenevert, a community college student in Columbus who also works as a
nanny, recalled: “In 2008, I was only 13, but I was super excited about
Hillary. I’m actually amazed that I’m not going to vote for her, because
13-year-old me would be so disappointed.”
Chenevert had originally hoped that she would be casting her first vote in
a presidential election for Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass). With Warren
taking a pass on 2016, Chenevert now believes that Sanders offers her the
greatest hope of some day being able to afford the schooling it will take
to reach her dream of becoming a physician assistant.
Does she want to see a woman in the White House? “Of course. But I’d rather
wait another eight, or 12, or 16 years for another woman to run,” Chenevert
said. “I totally swayed my mom, who has liked Hillary since 2008. She was
so excited about a woman. She still would love to see a woman, but she
doesn’t think Hillary is the right woman.”
Clinton’s most loyal supporters, on the other hand, make the case that if a
former secretary of state, senator and first lady cannot win, it will be a
long time before any other woman has a realistic chance.
If not Clinton, “it says, not in my lifetime. That’s what it seems to me
for sure. She seems so competent,” said Ena Wilson, a retired teacher from
near Cincinnati. At 88, Wilson can recall when abortion was illegal and
unsafe, worries that Planned Parenthood is under siege and is frustrated
that women still do not make as much money as men.
“I felt these issues. I’ve been fighting them all my life, and I can’t
believe it sometimes that we haven’t made more progress than this,” Wilson
said.
Wilson worked a phone bank for Clinton’s 2008 campaign, and she still meets
nearly every Friday at a coffee shop with six other women with whom she
bonded during that experience. They are in their late 50s and older, and
call themselves Team Hillary; last week, Wilson and two of the others drove
more than 100 miles to see Clinton speak in Columbus.
Afterward, over lunch, they were still excited by what they had heard. “She
said — and I believe it to my core — ‘I will fight for you,’” said Michele
Mueller, 65, who had made the trip with Wilson. “That’s what we want to
hear.”
“It’s unfinished business,” added their friend Joyce Shrimplin, 69, a
retired high school teacher. “What if she doesn’t make it this time? That’s
why our generation of women are so fervent about it.”
On the stump, Sanders also appeals to women’s concerns, touting his support
for abortion rights, equal pay and paid family and medical leave.
“I hope they will hear it,” he said in a brief interview after a Labor Day
campaign stop in Amherst, N.H. “I do understand there is a desire on the
part of many women, perfectly understandable, to see a woman being elected
president. And we all want to see that. We want to see women hold more
political offices.”
“But I also would hope that in these enormously difficult times, where it
is absolutely imperative that we stand up to the billionaire class, bring
our people together to fight for a progressive agenda, that all people —
women — look at that candidate who has the record to do that,” added
Sanders, who has a growing lead in New Hampshire polls.
[How Bernie Sanders is plotting his path to the Democratic nomination]
At the Democratic barbecue where Sanders spoke in Amherst, Sen. Debbie
Stabenow (D-Mich.) made a pitch for Clinton. “I want to have my daughter
Lilly there on Inauguration Day,” Stabenow said. “We will have made
history, and we will have let our grandchildren know they can do anything —
not because we said it, but because they saw it.”
Elise deMichael, a retiree from nearby Milford who supports Sanders, was in
the audience and agreed with Stabenow about how exciting it would be to see
a woman inaugurated.
“But it’s got to be the right woman,” she said. “Hillary’s so divisive. It
breaks my heart for her. I’m sorry she’s not likeable. It’s going to
happen. Did we ever think there was going to be a black president?”
Clinton has told reporters who ask about the e-mail controversy: “Nobody
talks to me about it, other than you guys.”
But in the interviews with women in New Hampshire and Ohio, it came up
again and again.
[Tech company: No indication that Clinton’s e-mail server was ‘wiped’]
“Her judgment sometimes — the e-mail thing. There’s always a smoking gun,”
said Vanessa Foley, a nurse from Milford, N.H., who wore a Bernie Sanders
sticker at the Amherst barbecue.
Kathy Lawson, a retired teacher, moved to New Hampshire from Maryland a
decade ago to be near her grandchildren and was in the crowd at a Labor Day
parade in Milford. She voted twice for President Obama, but is now leaning
toward a Republican, Ohio Gov. John Kasich — though “if Joe Biden gets in,
I’m in for him.”
She is already certain how she will not vote.
“Not Hillary,” she said. “I don’t think she’s honest. I just don’t want the
drama we had for eight years, and we’ve already seen it.”
Others argue that Clinton’s weakness is on the issues.
It took Columbus nurse Jen Kanagy 18 years to pay off her student loans.
Now she worries about whether she will be able to afford to send her own
10-year-old daughter Olivia to college.
She read about Clinton’s $350-billion college affordability plan, which
would allow those repaying loans to refinance their outstanding debt at
lower rates, saving an average of $2,000 over a 10-year repayment period.
“Her college plan was going to give people $17 a month,” Kanagy said. “What
is that? That’s not even a pizza.”
Sanders, on the other hand, is promising to make public colleges and
universities tuition-free, and Kanagy has become so enthusiastic that she
and Olivia went to Madison, Wis., to see him speak there. “It was like
tailgating at a rock concert,” she said. “I see this happening. I think
people are waking up.”
Clinton herself appears to recognize that as well. She is holding several
weeks of rallies billed as “Women for Hillary,” but the message she is
delivering is one that speaks to broad concerns, focusing heavily on the
economic benefits of equal pay, better child care and reproductive rights.
With this month marking the 20th anniversary of a speech that then-first
lady Clinton gave in Beijing declaring that “women’s rights are human
rights,” the campaign is also releasing daily videos with clips from the
address, which electrified the audience at the United Nations Fourth World
Conference on Women.
“Her dedication to women really resonates with me, especially when it comes
to equal pay and paid leave. I think it’s embarrassing that we don’t have
equal pay. I believe she is going to fix it,” said Miranda Ross, 18, a
member of the Ohio State University Democrats who worked for Obama in 2012
and expects to cast her first vote for Clinton.
“I feel like her campaign is just getting started,” added her friend
Caroline Gonzalez, 20.
Some women who now find themselves unable to support Clinton insist that
they continue to respect and appreciate her decades of work on the causes
they share.
One of them is Sylvia Gale, 66, a former New Hampshire state legislator,
who stood outside an AFL-CIO Labor Day breakfast in Manchester.
“Hillary has been a strident advocate for women’s rights for many years,
and I will not speak against her,” Gale said.
But in her hands, she held a hand-made sign that said: “Feminists for
Bernie.”
“I’ve never been ashamed to call myself a feminist,” Gale said. “But
because Hillary has gotten a lot of coverage in the mainstream and other
media as being the women’s candidate, I guess I just wanted to say — not
for all of us.”
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