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From: "jeffrey E." <[email protected]> To: Lawrence Krauss Subject: Re: a tightened version.. awaiting comments from Adam and Nancy Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2018 22:14:55 +0000 Inline-Images: DA866543-7401-4A5A-8E50-FD32E33A50EC.png Let awards die On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 4:58 PM Lawrence Krauss < > wrote: Don't understand. Lawrence M. Krauss Director, The Origins Project at ASU Foundation Professor School of Earth & Space Ex loration and Physics Department Arizona State University. Box 871404. Tempe. AZ 85287-1404 origins.asu.edu I I krauss.facultv.asu.edu Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2018, at 1:57 PM, Jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wrote: If it is truly about that , I assume they must decline.. prefer no decision after looking On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 4:24 PM Lawrence Krauss < wrote: I think they are going to decide both on whether I remain as an honorary director, and whether I speak at their meeting in October, and present the Richard Dawkins award to Stephen Fry, along with Dawkins, as I was last recipient. Lawrence M. Krauss Director, The Origins Project at ASU Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative Foundation Professor School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department EFTA00867591 Arizona State University, Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404 origins.asu.edu krauss.faculty.asu.edu Origins Project 10 Year Celebration Be a part of something 10 years in the making! April 5-9th 2018 - Visit for more info <image002.png> On Mar 2, 2018, at 1:22 PM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation(a)gmail.corn> wrote: what is the purpose for their request? it can be short. you deny , asu is looking into . and you are confindent of the results etd. On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 4:18 PM. Lawrence Krauss > wrote: center for inquiry wants to have statement if possible before their board meeting 4 pm on Sat.. I think Sat release is good cause (a) weekends are slow, and (b) there wilt be lots of background chatter on other things the day of oscars.. Lawrence M. Krauss Director, The Origins Project at ASU Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative Foundation Professor School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department Arizona State University, M. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404 origins.asu.edu I krauss.faculty.asu.edu Origins Project 10 Year Celebration Be a part of something 10 years in the making! April 5-9th 2018 — Visit for more info <image002.png> On Mar 2, 2018. at 1:15 PM, jeffrey E. <[email protected]> wrote: no. you risk being part of a vicious conversation. . relax. AGAIN!!! , you will get more info the week after. you may need to incorporate. On Fri. Mar 2, 2018 at 4:11 PM, Lawrence Krauss < > wrote: you are right.. this means we should get the statement out BEFORE. not after.. 2 reasons. 1. we beat all the talk, and 2. all the talk about the academy awards will distract from some of possible response to a statement. Lawrence M. Krauss Director, The Origins Project at ASU Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative EFTA00867592 Foundation Professor School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department Arizona State University, M. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404 origms.asthed LI I I Srauss.faculty.asu.edu Origins Project 10 Year Celebration Be a part of something 10 years in the making! April 5-9th 2018 - Visit for more info <image002.png> On Mar 2. 2018, at 12:05 PM, jeffrey E. <jeevacationftgmaiLcom> wrote: it is the academny awards. sunday night. the heightof the me too moevemnt. and you MUST see what happens after. On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 3:03 PM, Lawrence Krauss a> wrote: (1) because it is being urgently requested from many supportive organizations and individuals. (2) because it is the consensus of a wide variety of people, who may all be wrong while you are right, that saying nothing when accused of at this level.. not a single complaint by a single individual, but a comprehensive story in a tabloid magazine, appears tantamount to admitting guilt. (3) because what is in the letter is true. (4) because ultimately I have to live with myself and Nancy and I have to feel we were a team in this (very important). at this point, it appears that the firestorm is subsiding somewhat, and maybe even a lot. It also appears that the haters may have exhausted themselves with yelling and other people are actually getting turned off and beginning to counter them, angrily and otherwise.. as often happens the debate ends up coming down in the middle somewhere after the extremists have vocalized their views.. so there is some argument for letting the twitter sphere just exhaust itself and move on to the next thing. Indeed if I am interested in simply covering my ass and leaving alive with my tail between my legs. this may be the best approach. But it is equally true that many many many of the people vocalizing support have all said that while most of the story is hearsay allegations, and none in any case involve sexual harassment, they are also saying that Lawrence Krauss has not had a chance, yet, to defend himself. And exactly what I do in the future will depend on this.. I expect you will say that this is true, but you will argue that my future will be better off if I do nothing.. but I cannot see not responding and I believe, based on what we are seeing, that waiting much longer is strategically wrong. Finally.. (5).. and wait for it.. because this is going to make you really want to yell at me, if we want to further silence Buzzfeed following up this, and maybe others as well, we may need to initiate a lawsuit (and against Gizmodo in australia, where basically anyone can sue and win). So.. I am not acting rashly.. I am initiating this discussion with you. Thinking rationally and calmly about exactly how to navigate this tightrope.. So.. we can have a conversation later. In the meantime Nancy and I are at least going to go over the letter to try and tune it and wait for Adam's revision so we are prepared to act if we decide to. Lawrence M. Krauss Director, The Origins Project at ASU Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative Foundation Professor School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department Arizona State University, M. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404 origins. LI krauss.faculty.asu.edu Origins Project 10 Year Celebration EFTA00867593 Be a part of something 10 years in the making! April 5-9th 2018 - Visit for more info <image002.png> On Mar 2. 2018, at 11:24 AM, jeffrey E. <jeevacationagmail.com> wrote: Dumb dumb dumb On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 2:24 PM jeffrey E. <jeevacationagmail.com> wrote: Why On Fri, Mar 2. 2018 at 1:37 PM Lawrence Krauss wrote: The goal is to have statement out by Sunday. So if you need anything to help edit what I will send you tonight let me know. Lawrence M. Krauss Director, The Origins Project at ASU Foundation Professor School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department Arizona State Universit . Box 871404 Tempe AZ 85287-1404 origins.asu.edu I krauss.faculty.asu.edu <DA866543.7401-4A5A-8E50-FD32E33A50EC.png> Sent from my iPhone On Mar 1, 2018, at 7:39 PM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation©gmail.com> wrote: were falsified by counter-evidence ignored by the reporters,??? its in read only form on my computer. . can a community be defamed? . i hope you are feeling calm On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 10:19 PM. Lawrence Krauss wrote: Lawrence M. Krauss Director, The Origins Project at ASU Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative Foundation Professor School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department Arizona State University, M. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404 origins.asu.edu I I krauss.faculty.asu.edu Origins Project 10 Year Celebration Be a part of something 10 years in the making! 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