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CHILD VICTIM AND CHILD WITNESS IDENTITY INFORMATION
This document contains information regarding a child victim's or child witness's
identity, which may only be disclosed to individuals who have a need-to-know such
information by reason of their participation in the associated proceeding, or if
disclosure is necessary to protect the welfare and well-being of the child.
, hereby referred to as , date of birth (DOB)
, cellular telephone number , was interviewed at III
. Present for the interview was
attorney , along with . Also
present for the interview was
. After
being advised of the identities of the above listed individuals and the
nature of the interview, provided the following information:
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was introduced to JEFFREY EPSTEIN through and GYPSY.
heard positive things about
EPSTEIN. was very skeptical and thought that EPSTEIN had alternate
motives. did not think someone could be that nice.
knew EPSTEIN for a number of months. EPSTEIN came to California
and stayed at the Bel Air Hotel. took to EPSTEIN's room and
introduced her to him. EPSTEIN showed a lot of interest in her life and
upbringing; told him how
EPSTEIN kept in touch with after that meeting, offering to pay for her
schooling. EPSTEIN suggested attend hair school. wanted to learn
different languages and to travel; EPSTEIN told her she could go anywhere
she wanted to go.
was 17 years old when she met EPSTEIN. She and EPSTEIN kept in
touch via phone. EPSTEIN or his assistant would call . EPSTEIN invited
to one of his houses with went to a few of his houses,
including those in Florida, US Virgin Islands, and New Mexico. had
been to these residences before she left recalled
being overwhelmed by his houses. EPSTEIN had a life of luxury and his
lifestyle was more than had ever seen. EPSTEIN was fun and
lighthearted. and EPSTEIN did activities together to include trails
and riding hummers. was very comfortable with him; she felt blessed
and safe.
On first visit to EPSTEIN's home, EPSTEIN called her in to do a
massage. was present. and were both in swimsuits.
EPSTEIN put in a very uncomfortable situation. and
massaged EPSTEIN, and EPSTEIN started fondling . EPSTEIN asked
to remove her shirt. recalled not knowing how to get out of the
situation. froze and did not know how to react. felt very
vulnerable. had given up her job and apartment and felt that she had
nowhere to go. EPSTEIN pulled her bottoms to the side and he inserted (Agent
note: At this point in the interview, did not want to go into further
detail].
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went back and forth to his houses. was primarily living •
•;
In approximately January 2003, went to . She turned 18 years
old was for four months while she attended III
. EPSTEIN sent three
times; EPSTEIN paid for everything. LESLEY (known to law enforcement as
LESLEY GROFF) from EPSTEIN's office helped to arrange it all. helped
arrange this trip via phone.
LESLEY worked in EPSTEIN's office in New York. would turn receipts
into her for petty cash. assumed that LESLEY was EPSTEIN's assistant.
EPSTEIN would send shopping in New York and she would have to save the
receipts to turn into him. LESLEY arranged anything to do with travel.
flew commercially to EPSTEIN's different residences; she would schedule
through LESLEY. also flew on EPSTEIN's Gulfstream and the "bigger
one". only saw LESLEY in person when was in New York.
EPSTEIN knew how old was. When came back from , she went
to either Florida or the Virgin Islands; she could not recall which one.
wasn't visiting; this was home for her.
traveled with EPSTEIN for approximately two years. Within those
years, EPSTEIN sent her to school and when she was not in school, she spent
her time with him. When she traveled with EPSTEIN, also traveled with
GHISLAINE MAXWELL, , and . When they traveled, they
were a "family".
EPSTEIN told her to pack her stuff and he flew her to
had a hard time adjusting. viewed EPSTEIN as her friend, or she
had thought he was, so she reached out to him a lot. did not recall if
she saw him after this time.
mentioned there were different housekeepers and staff at EPSTEIN's
different residences. recalled JOJO worked in New York, MILES and
KATHY worked in the Virgin Islands, there were different housekeepers in
Florida, and there was a chef in Paris who cooked the best eggs.
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lived with EPSTEIN; she went everywhere with him. did not
work for him. In shared an apartment with
recalled this apartment to be near . EPSTEIN
would summon them to his house to go shopping or for whatever he wanted.
EPSTEIN had multiple apartments in New York City; different people lived in
those apartments. had an apartment in NYC. JEAN LUC BRUNEL had
several apartments.
and were very close and good friends. described
has her best friend, who was very sweet and quiet.
understood to be EPSTEIN's girlfriend. No one ever spoke of their
relationship with EPSTEIN. When tried to open up to about
the times EPSTEIN assaulted her, could not relate.
described as a bit standoffish; was not very
friendly. described as havin
and did not wear a lot of makeup. was older than
approximated that was approximately five years older than her.
was EPSTEIN's assistant who helped with plane departures and scheduling;
everything went through or MAXWELL. could not recall if she and
had talked about age. was present and participated in
two assaults by EPSTEIN on before turned 18. touched
on both occasions. did not want to go into further detail at
this time.
EPSTEIN, MAXWELL, , and were the individuals that
interacted with the most. There were other people around, including those
around age. Some of those people would come and stay for days while
others were in and out in a couple of hours. recalled that
traveled with her the first time but was not there a whole lot.
was around more in the beginning of time with EPSTEIN.
recalled that they were both together a handful of times.
recalled saying what a good guy EPSTEIN was.
In New York, recalled seeing girls stay in the apartment when it
was empty. had no idea if any of the girls were under 18 years old
because she did not talk with them and did not know their names.
In Florida, had a room with a bathroom in EPSTEIN's Palm Beach
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residence. described all of those that traveled with EPSTEIN stayed
together in the house. There was no routine. EPSTEIN always woke up early
and had his coffee. There was no set time; woke up when she was ready.
saw a lot of girls coming in and out for a short period; the girls
would be at the house for an hour or two. EPSTEIN was very private.
knew the girls were coming to meet him but did not know why. thought
the girls could also be coming to see MAXWELL. The girls would come in by
the kitchen. heard say that the girls were there to see
EPSTEIN, and felt that it was clear that they were there to see him.
did not recall names as they were not spending time with her. It was
very secretive. was very secretive; she did not trust anyone.
On EPSTEIN's island, EPSTEIN had separate living quarters. There was no
set schedule. They all gathered around the outside area. It was very
leisurely. People would come to the island, including JEAN LUC BRUNEL, NAOMI
CAMPBELL, and some older people. There was "less traffic" in terms of people
being in and out of the island.
In New Mexico, the set up was "kind of strange". There was no meeting
point besides the kitchen. did not see EPSTEIN a whole lot while
there. thought she could probably count on both hands the number of
times she was in New Mexico with EPSTEIN. EPSTEIN did not visit New Mexico
often. stayed in a room downstairs while other people stayed in nicer
rooms upstairs.
stated there were four assaults by EPSTEIN that occurred before she
turned 18. stated these occurred in Paris, New Mexico, and Florida.
Two of the assaults were rapes where EPSTEIN snuck into her room while she
had been sleeping.
understood BRUNEL to be one of EPSTEIN's best friends. BRUNEL works
for and owns a modeling agency. described BRUNEL as very centric,
small, and colorful. saw BRUNEL quite a bit; BRUNEL traveled with
them.
described MAXWELL as very intimidating and very cold.
understood MAXWELL to be EPSTEIN's partner. EPSTEIN and MAXWELL's
relationship was more business like. avoided MAXWELL as MAXWELL was
not friendly or nice.
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At some point, someone gave a phone with , but she
could not recall who gave her this phone. EPSTEIN helped open her
first bank account. recalled that she thought it was on 66th and 2nd.
She set up a credit card. EPSTEIN had a banker help her out. EPSTEIN gave
her a letter that she was residing with him. The bank account was in her
name. EPSTEIN also paid for education and sometimes gave her cash.
EPSTEIN gave a gold ring from Egypt that was from 600 B.C., which
left behind in New York when she left. EPSTEIN took shopping; he
was very controlling about what she wore. EPSTEIN was buying the clothes so
he picked what she wore.
EPSTEIN believed that a monogamous way of life was not the way to live.
EPSTEIN told that it was not healthy to be in a monogamous
relationship. The idea was to build a harem. went with EPSTEIN to
together to learn to build this. trusted him a lot and believed
a lot of what he said. felt that it was all about mind control.
EPSTEIN asked once if she thought it was wrong for a man to put
women's faces on children's bodies to masturbate to them. It was a very
random question. told EPSTEIN that she thought it was wrong.
took photographs of did not recall how it came up
that the photographs were taken; she did not recall whose idea it was to
take the photographs. There was one photo shoot. thought the
photographs had been taken prior to her going to . The
photographs were taken on Epstein's island. thought that she was
wearing a swimsuit and that they were more like modeling photographs.
did not remember a lot about it. recalled that the photo shoot seemed
lighthearted. No one else was present. did not recall if there were
photographs of her without her clothes on.
has a lot of photographs of ; they're more friendly
photographs.
provided a number of scanned photographs of herself, EPSTEIN, and
other individuals from the time period where she was with EPSTEIN.
identified the individuals in each of the photographs listed below. The
photographs have been placed in a lA envelope.
Page 1: EPSTEIN and on a Sea-Doo in the Virgin Islands.
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Page 2: EPSTEIN in the Virgin Islands on his boat. took this photo.
Page 3: EPSTEIN and MANUELLA LNU. MANUELLA was from Italy and was a
friend of EPSTEIN's. took the photo. It was on the tarmac in the
Virgin Islands.
Page 4: EPSTEIN and . It was on a different island in the
Virgin Islands. did not know the people in the background. took
this photo.
Page 5: MANUELLA, • , and EPSTEIN. It was on a different island
in the Virgin Islands.
Pa e 6: The top photo is of EPSTEIN and
They were on a plane flying
to Florida somewhere. described as young, privileged, and
entitled. saw her a handful of times. The bottom photo is of EPSTEIN
and in the Virgin Islands.
Page 7: EPSTEIN and took this photo in Florida on a Disney
World trip.
Page 8: The top photo is of EPSTEIN and a friend of his, who is wearing a
yellow shirt, who toured Disney with them. The middle photo is EPSTEIN.
did not recognize anyone else in this photo. The bottom photo is
EPSTEIN and EPSTEIN's friend from the top photo.
Page 9: The top photo is of EPSTEIN and in the Virgin Islands.
took this photo. The middle photo is of EPSTEIN and taken
at a New York Robin Hood special event. The bottom photo is of EPSTEIN and
took this photo in Paris.
Page 10: The top photo is of EPSTEIN, , and took
this photo in Paris. The middle photo is of , EPSTEIN, and
. This photo was taken in Paris. The bottom photo is of
, EPSTEIN, and . This photo was taken in Paris.
Page 11: Both photos are of and EPSTEIN in a helicopter over the
Virgin Islands. thought these photos may have been taken by BRUNEL.
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Page 12: The top photo is of MAXWELL (in the blue shirt), (in the
green pants), EPSTEIN, and BRUNEL (in the pink top). This photo was taken in
Ecuador. The middle photo is of and EPSTEIN. This photo was taken
by in the Virgin Islands. The bottom photo is of EPSTEIN.
Page 13: The top photo is of EPSTEIN and took this
photo. The middle photo is of EPSTEIN and taken in the Virgin Islands.
The bottom photo is of EPSTEIN and This photo was taken by
at Disney World.
Page 14: EPSTEIN in Florida at Disney World. does not know the
other person in the photo. took this photo.
[Agent Note: Not all subject matter was covered during the course of this
interview.]
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