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And I've tried to review as many of the pleadings as
possible.
As you know, they're extremely voluminous.
And I
haven't been through all of them.
But we do believe that there
has been a breach in the filing that Mr. Josefsberg referred
to, and contrary to Mr. Critton, we do understand that we have
an obligation to provide notice, and we are providing notice to
Mr. Epstein today.
The pleading that we found to be in breach -- the
non-prosecution agreement, sought to do one thing, which was to
place the victims in the same position they would have been if
Mr. Epstein had been convicted of the federal offenses for
which he was investigated.
And that if he had been federally prosecuted and
convicted, the victims would have been entitled to restitution,
regardless of how long ago the crimes were committed,
regardless of how old they were at the time, and how old they
are today, or at the time of the conviction.
And it also would have made them eligible for damages
under 2255.
And so our idea was, our hope was that we could set up
a system that would allow these victims to get that restitution
without having to go through what civil litigation will expose
them to.
that, of course, he would be entitled to depositions; of
You have a number of girls who were very hesitant
about even speaking to authorities about this because of the
trauma that they have suffered and about the embarrassment that
they were afraid would be brought upon themselves and upon
their families.
So we did through the non-prosecution agreement tried
to protect their rights while also protecting their privacy.
So, pursuant to the non-prosecution agreement -- on the other
hand, we weren't trying to hand them a jackpot or a key to a
It was solely to sort of put them in that same position.
So we developed this language that said if -- that
provided for an attorney to represent them.
Most of the
victims, as you know from the pleadings, come from not wealthy
circumstances, may not have known any attorneys who would be in
a position to help them.
So we went through the Special Master procedure that
resulted in the appointment of Mr. Josefsberg, and the goal was
that they would be able to try to negotiate with Mr. Epstein
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for a fair amount of restitution/damages.
And if Mr. Epstein
took the position, which apparently he has, which is that the
$50,000 or $150,000 floor under 2255 also would be a cap.
if they were to proceed to file suit in Federal Court to get
fair damages under 2255, Mr. Epstein would admit liability, but
he, of course, could fight the damages portion, which means
that, of course, he would be entitled to depositions; of
course, he would be entitled to take discovery, and we don't
believe that any of that violates the non-prosecution
agreement.
The issue with the pleading that he filed, the motion
to dismiss the case, I believe it's Jane Doe 101, represented
by Mr. Josefsberg, is that that is a case that was filed
exclusively under 18 U.S.C., Section 2255.
She met that
requirement.
Mr. Epstein is moving to dismiss it, not on the
basis of damages, he is saying that he cannot be held liable
under 2255 because he was not convicted of an offense.
The reason why he was not convicted of an offense is
because he entered into the non-prosecution agreement.
The issue really that was raised in the motion to stay
and that I addressed in our response to the motion to stay is
that Mr. Epstein's -- Mr. Epstein wants to stay the litigation
in order to leave, in order to sort of attack the cases of the
victims whether they are fully within the non-prosecution or
not, non-prosecution agreement or not, and leave the Government
without a remedy if he does, in fact, breach those terms.
that is why we opposed the stay.
THE COURT:
not sure what you mean by that last
statement.
MS. VILLAFANA:
Well, because this issue related to
the motion to dismiss on Mr. Josefsberg's client came up after
we had filed that response.
And what we said in the response
to the motion to stay is that the reason why he wants to stay
the litigation is so that the non-prosecution agreement
terminates based on a period of time, as he puts it.
And then
afterwards he would be able to come in here and make all of
these arguments that clearly violate the non-prosecution
agreement but we would be without remedy.
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THE COURT:
But you're not taking the position that
other than possibly doing something in litigation which is a
violation of an express provision of the non-prosecution
agreement, any other discovery, motion practice, investigations
that someone would ordinarily do in the course of defending a
civil case would constitute a violation of the agreement?
MS. VILLAFANA:
No, Your Honor.
I mean, civil
litigation is civil litigation, and being able to take
discovery is part of what civil litigation is about.
And while
there may be, for example, if someone were to try to subpoena
the Government, we would obviously resist under statutory
reasons, all that sort of stuff.
But, no, Mr. Epstein is
entitled to take the deposition of a plaintiff and to subpoena
records, etc.
THE COURT:
And even if he seeks discovery from a
Government agency, you have the right to resist it under the
rules of procedure but that would not constitute a violation,
again unless there's a provision in the prosecution agreement
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