EFTA00223961.pdf

1 1 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT 2 SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA 3 4 5 6 7 RE: OPERATION LEAP YEAR COPY 8 / 9 10 1 1 12 TESTIMONY 13 OF 14 SPECIAL AGENT II 15 16 17 18 Federal Grand Jury 07-103 Federal Building 19 U.S. Courthouse West Palm Beach, Florida 20 Tuesday, April 24, 2007 21 22 APPEARANCES: 23 Assistant United States Attorney 24 HELENA JOSETTE JONES -PARSONS, 25 Foreperson OFFICIAL I T, ICE, LLC Exhibit 21 EFTA00223961  2 1 timony of SPECIAL AGENT 2 was taken before the 3 Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach Division, 4 Federal Building, U.S. Courthouse, Palm Beach 5 County, State of Florida, on Tuesday, April 24, 6 2007. 7 Paula E. Angelocci, Certified Court 8 Reporter and Notary Public, State of Florida, 9 Official Reporting Service, LLC, 524 South Andrews 10 Avenue, Suite 302N, Fort Lauderdale, Florida, 11 33301 , was authorized to and did report the sworn 12 testimony. 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 OFFICIAL(R1 T ICE, LLC EFTA00223962  3 1 (Witness enters the Grand Jury Room.) 2 THE FOREPERSON: You do solemnly swear 3 that the testimony you give will be the 4 truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the 5 truth, so help you God? 6 THE WITNESS: I do. 7 THE FOREPERSON: Thank you. Please be 8 seated. 9 1 EXAMINATION 1 12 Q Special Agent would you 13 just remind the grand jurors who you are and who 14 you work for? 15 A My name is Mad I am 16 a special agent with the FBI and I work here in 17 Palm Beach. 18 Q Special Agent can you tell 19 the grand jurors who will be appearing before them 20 this afternoon? 21 A One of our victims, who was a 22 minor at the time that she met Mr. Epstein. 23 Q And have you previously testified about 24 25 A Yes, I have. OFFICIAL R CE, LLC EFTA00223963  4 1 Q Did you attempt to interview her? She's 2 going to be coming in, and she is not a minor 3 anymore, so what is her full name? 4 A Her name is nd I did 5 attempt to interview was 6 interviewed by Palm Beach Police Department and 7 because of the statements she provided to the 8 police department, she felt as if she needed a 9 lawyer. So when I attempted to interview her, we 10 ended up going through her lawyer. 1 1 Q And just so the grand jury has a little 12 bit of background, the interview with the Palm 13 Beach Police Department was quite some time ago? 14 A Yes, it was, in the fall of '05. 15 Q And when Ms. started that 16 conversation with the police, she was very 17 forthcoming? 18 A Yes, she was. 19 Q Fully cooperative? 20 A Yes. 21 Q And what happened in the middle of that 22 interview with the police? 23 A The police just let know that she 24 could be charged because brought some of the 25 girls to Mr. Epstein and the police -- she was OFFICIAL R ICE, LLC EFTA00223964  5 1 very cooperative, but the police at that point had 2 to let know that what she had done that she IIIIIII 3 could be facing charges. 4 Q And that was after they had told her 5 earlier that she didn't need an attorney present, 6 correct? 7 A Exactly. 8 Q Okay. So this happens to her with the 9 Palm Beach Police Department and did the Palm 10 Beach Police actually present or propose charging 1 1 Ms. 12 A They did get a probable cause affidavit 13 against 14 And is that why Ms. and her 15 attorney were concerned about her testimony here? 16 A Yes. 17 Q Now was a subpoena issued for Ms. ■ 18 on behalf of this grand jury? 19 A Yes, it was. 20 Q And before Ms. would comply with 21 that, did she -- did her attorney request some 22 sort of order? 23 A Yes. 24 Q And what did he ask for? 25 A He asked for immunity for OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00223965  6 1 Q And let me show you the order, that is a 2 sealed order in these grand jury proceedings. Now 3 the immunity that has been provided for Ms. 4 keeps her statements that are made here from being 5 used against her? 6 A Yes, it does. 7 Q It doesn't -- if she commits perjury and 8 she lies to the grand jury, can she still be 9 charged? 10 A Yes, she can. 11 Q Okay. Could you read that? I know it 12 is only two pages. 13 A Sealed order, on application of the 14 United States Attorneys for the Southern District 15 of Florida and it appearing to the satisfaction of 16 the court that has been called to 17 testify and to provide other information before 18 the United States District Court, the Southern 19 District of Florida, including a grand jury 20 impaneled therein. 21 And number two, that in a judgment of 22 the said United States Attorneys, has 23 refused to testify and provide other information 24 on the basis of her privilege against self 25 incrimination. OFFICIAL R ICE, LLC EFTA00223966  And that number three, in the judgment 2 of the United States Attorneys, the testimony and 3 other information from made necessary 4 to the public interest. 5 And number four, that the aforesaid 6 application has been made with the approval of t e 7 Assistant Attorney General in charge of the 8 criminal division of the Department of Justice or 9 a duly designated acting Assistant Attorney 10 General pursuant to the authority vested in him by 1 1 Title 18, United States Code, Section 6003, and 12 Title 28, Code of Federal Regulations, Section 13 0. 175 and 0. 132, small e. 14 Now, therefore, it is ordered pursuant 15 to Title 18, United States Code, Section 6002, 16 that give testimony and provide other 17 information which she refuses to give or to 18 provide on the basis of her privilege against self 19 incrimination as to all matters about which she 20 may be interrogated before said United States 21 District Court including a grand jury impaneled 22 therein as well as any subsequent proceeding or 23 trial. 24 However, no testimony or other 25 information compelled under this order or any OFFICIAL R ICE, LLC EFTA00223967  8 1 information directly or indirectly derived from 2 such testimony or other information may be used 3 against in any criminal case except a 4 prosecution for perjury giving a false statement 5 or otherwise failing to comply with this order. 6 It is further ordered that this order 7 shall be sealed in accordance with said Federal 8 Regulations Criminal. 9 10 Q Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure. 1 1 A Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure, it's 12 abbreviated, 6, little e, 6, except that a copy of 13 this order shall be provided to counsel for the 14 United States who may disclose the existence of 15 the order to members of the grand jury, to the 16 witness, to the counsel for the witness, and to 17 law enforcement officers engaged in the 18 investigation pending before the grand jury. 19 Those persons may review the order, but 20 may not retain a copy of the order nor may it 21 disclose the existence of the order to any others. 22 Done and ordered the 16th day of April 2007, at 23 West Palm Beach, Florida. The United States 24 District Judge Donald M. Middlebrook, OFFICIAL RIIIFT ICE, LLC EFTA00223968  9 1 Q All right. So has a copy or has this 2 document been shown to counsel for Ms. 3 A Yes, it has. 4 Q And to Ms. 5 A Yes. 6 Q And will Ms. be here this 7 afternoon? 8 A Yes, she will. 9 Q Have you had a chance to sit with her? 10 A Yes, we have. 11 Q And she has been very forthcoming? 12 A She's very cooperative. 13 Q Okay. 14 MS. I don't have any further 15 questions for the witness. Do you have any 16 questions? All right. Seeing no questions, 17 you are excused and I think that right now 18 you are set to come back at 1 :15. How does 19 1 :30 sound? Is that all right? 20 THE FOREPERSON: Fine. 21 (Witness was excused.) 22 23 24 25 OFFICIAL ICE, LLC EFTA00223969  10 1 CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER 2 3 I, Paula E. Angelocci, Certified Court 4 Reporter and Notary Public, do certify that the 5 transcript is a true and correct transcription of 6 my stenotype notes of the testimony of 7 SPECIAL AGENT taken before 8 the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach, Florida. 9 PA LA . ANG OCCI, CSR #4869 10 Certified Co t Reporter 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 OFFICIAL 'CE, LLC EFTA00223970